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#1901 Literally

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:11 PM

Guys, you're all missing the real point with this whole reddit-talking-about-MWO thing. Redditors aren't playing the game, instead they are arguing about it on reddit.

The same thing is happening on SA and right here on the MWOmercs.com forums. I don't play, I don't log in, I don't even have the game installed right now. When I was playing the game, I didn't bother with the forums very much. Now I come almost every day to check and see if Garth or Paul has actually apologized to the community genuinely, to check if any actual features are ever being delivered on, and to watch nerds get mad at video games.

People are visiting the MWO forums and reddit threads because it's more fun than playing the game.

#1902 Heffay

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:24 PM

View PostLiterally, on 24 September 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Guys, you're all missing the real point with this whole reddit-talking-about-MWO thing. Redditors aren't playing the game, instead they are arguing about it on reddit.

The same thing is happening on SA and right here on the MWOmercs.com forums.


What do the equivalent numbers look like on the SA forums over the past year?

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:36 PM

View PostWales Grey, on 24 September 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:

I'm sorry I'm so dumb and stupid, Surat.


+1 for staying in character.

When this thread hits 100 pages, I think we should all just start roleplaying. Would be a much more fun read.

#1904 Heffay

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:37 PM

View PostXtrekker, on 24 September 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:


+1 for staying in character.

When this thread hits 100 pages, I think we should all just start roleplaying. Would be a much more fun read.


I put on my wizards robe and hat.

#1905 Nekki Basara

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:50 PM

View PostHeffay, on 24 September 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:


What do the equivalent numbers look like on the SA forums over the past year?
You mean people joining etc?

Actually I do kind of want to go back through the threads and count the J4Gs now, just to see how much this game has made Lowtax.

#1906 Heffay

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 05:29 PM

http://www.popsci.co...ng-our-comments

MWO should probably follow suit. A vocal minority can cause a ton of damage.

That's just plain science now.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 05:32 PM

View PostHeffay, on 24 September 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

http://www.popsci.co...ng-our-comments

MWO should probably follow suit. A vocal minority can cause a ton of damage.

That's just plain science now.


What? And push all the rage even farther out onto other web sites? They're much better off trying to contain it here, as much as possible, in this maze of a forum they have created.

#1908 Heffay

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 05:38 PM

View PostFactorlanP, on 24 September 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

What? And push all the rage even farther out onto other web sites? They're much better off trying to contain it here, as much as possible, in this maze of a forum they have created.


That's not quite how it works. Without a central place to focus their rage, they won't get a critical mass to do things like bomb metacritic reviews and attempt to plan DDoS attacks. Without an audience, they are just yelling among themselves.

This website serves as a focusing lens, instead of a containment unit.

#1909 Nekki Basara

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 05:42 PM

What do you thing /r/MWO would be if not for that central place? Killing these forums entirely is admitting defeat, and if PGI did it that'd send even more obvious messages to the people they're trying to get money out of.

#1910 Sandpit

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 06:05 PM

View PostHeffay, on 24 September 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:


That's not quite how it works. Without a central place to focus their rage, they won't get a critical mass to do things like bomb metacritic reviews and attempt to plan DDoS attacks. Without an audience, they are just yelling among themselves.

This website serves as a focusing lens, instead of a containment unit.


Soooooo you don't think players know how to organize themselves and create their own forum board to do these very things on their own?

#1911 Heffay

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 06:22 PM

View PostSandpit, on 24 September 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

Soooooo you don't think players know how to organize themselves and create their own forum board to do these very things on their own?


What, like #savemwo and Unite and Drop?

Sure... those were really effective and accomplished a lot. Thumbs up!

The problem with a couple of hundred people getting together to have their own little forum where they can rage among themselves is pointless when the other 1.3 million other people don't even know they exist.

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#1912 Sybreed

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 06:45 PM

View PostCathy, on 24 September 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:



Rome II not very good then ?

much like MWO, it was released unfinished. Totalbiscuit even called CA "fools" (or something like that) for burning their longtime fans in order to gain new fans.

MAN THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR.

edit: In my case, I preordered it... but I haven't even played it yet. I'm waiting on CA to get their **** together

Edited by Sybreed, 24 September 2013 - 06:47 PM.


#1913 Deathlike

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 06:56 PM

View Post', on 24 September 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

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More than 50% of the Founders log into the game once a month!

I mean, patch day is awesome.

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#1914 Sandpit

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 06:58 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 24 September 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:


More than 50% of the Founders log into the game once a month!

I mean, patch day is awesome.


Pretty much

#1915 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:02 PM

View PostFrom 24 September 2013 - 06:33 PM:

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Exactly that, at least when other people ague on whatever side here they have valid points, there is no way at all that there is anywhere near 1.3 million active people in the playerbase in game or in the fourms.

Reasons
  • Alt accounts for testing new player experience
  • Alt accounts for trying to get into the closed beta
  • Alt accounts for forum chat/troll/messing with polls
  • Alt accounts for people wanting a new name the easy way
  • Accounts for people who tried to get into closed beta then didnt bother playing at all
  • People who have played then silently walked away (Seriously look at news websites about MWO and go read the comments they are all full of people who are not founders or battletech fans who have just tried it because it was free and walked away)
  • Accounts that have gone dormant for whatever reason be it game problems, problems with PGI, better games, life problems.
  • Active accounts who play
  • Active accounts who play and forum post
  • Active accounts who forum post but dont play because of various reasons (I am here)
When the active number counter was in game back in closed beta I never seen it over 4 digits at any given time but then it was removed and there is 66k people following on facebook and 11k on twitter


I know I can confidently say that of all those dotpoints up there the smaller numbers would have to be the last 3, AKA the active accounts, otherwise launch would not have been forced out before the CW and UI 2.0 content was ready and they wouldnt have pulled their trump card of the hero atlas which thanks to the MC to ton scale is the most expensive hero yet.

So yes I call bull on using 1.3 million registered accounts for ANY kind of discussion.

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#1916 GaussDragon

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:04 PM

View PostMonkeyCheese, on 24 September 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

  • Active accounts who forum post but dont play because of various reasons (I am here)

That last category seems to be a new and growing one, I wonder how PGI/IGP can monetize it... oh, wait.

#1917 Heffay

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:12 PM

View PostGaussDragon, on 24 September 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

That last category seems to be a new and growing one, I wonder how PGI/IGP can monetize it... oh, wait.


Well, since they are adding people to the game at the rate of one per minute... your replacement has just arrived!

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:15 PM

View PostHeffay, on 24 September 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:


Well, since they are adding people to the game at the rate of one per minute... your replacement has just arrived!


Where did you pull that metric from...?

*hint* rhetorical questions need no answers.

Edited by Windies, 24 September 2013 - 07:15 PM.


#1919 Heffay

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:16 PM

View PostWindies, on 24 September 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:


Where did you pull that metric from...?


Go check out the rate that people are registering for the forums. It's very simple to calculate.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostHeffay, on 24 September 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:


Well, since they are adding people to the game at the rate of one per minute... your replacement has just arrived!


Yes but that is all meaningless statistics, the problems are the new player experience aka terrible trial mechs, cbill grind after the cadet bonus and the fact that new people are constantly placed in matches with people with multi million cbill tricked out mastered mechs. Then there is the customer retention side of things AKA content past mindless grinding and 2 almost identical game modes.





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