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[Protection]

Franchi, on 24 September 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Here is a little something I made the day after The_Garth dropped this little bombshell https://twitter.com/...109139310522368


Its a bit out of date, but you can see a current count by checking these two pages.
For UN-moderated numbers
http://www.metacriti...ne/user-reviews
For moderated numbers
http://www.metacriti...hwarrior-online



Of the 3 "Professional" reviews currently in. not one of them score MWO at their own average.
for details consult:
http://www.metacriti...er?filter=games
http://www.metacriti...nd?filter=games
http://www.metacriti...rs?filter=games


Such is the life of a sub-par game.

No man, it's cool. Fake accounts are noble when you're white knighting.

[KhanHeir]

Some one should show this to Phil since he went out of his way because he thought it was getting negative bombed.

[Gamgee]

Indak, on 24 September 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

Going down in flames huh? Funny how I never seem to have trouble dropping into a match, with different people every match. We'll have the fire extinguishers ready to put out the flames.

In the meantime, let me hold the door open for you, so it doesn't smack your *** on the way out. We'll enjoy the silence.

I'm a patient man, I waited for Tribes Ascend to die. I made several insightful posts and topics on why PGI was quickly following the path of Tribes Ascend and how it would eventually lead to its death. Despite the fact that I was reasonable in why this was, and how to fix it. They were closed repeatedly.

MWO has hit the iceberg, the hull is just starting to crack. You can see it from here. Perhaps if they actually do something and fix the game properly they could avoid that, but I doubt it. They've been talking BS for a year now. Bullheaded paladin syndrome won't save anyone now.

Edited by Gamgee, 25 September 2013 - 01:23 AM.

[Blowfeld]

I have just read the review at tentonhammer.com and found it to be quite adequate. I wonder how long it will take PGI to turn their game from mech/Cbill/XP grindfest into a real game with the promised features.

Hope that the mediocre critics that will most certainly come in do not hurt mech warrior to that extend that "the cool features" that I am looking for will never be implanted.

Mechwarrior had its charm in the beginning, but I believe I did not play this game for 3 months now and I do not really miss it. If it had new features, maybe I would engage again. But right now I am so dissapointed that the release was just a patch that did not frak up the game like every second patch did.

I got a good bang for the buck when I enjoyed playing the beta, but too little positive changes and to much "here's your grind- enjoy cause we gave you mechs at least" just does not make me feel long time motivated.

To sum it up: A friend asked me if he should play the game. He wanted an awesome feel of the mechwarrior universe.
Told him to wait another year...

[Apoc1138]

Kaijin, on 24 September 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

So anyone who wants to play as House forces is SOL? Only Mercs are allowed to play without 3PV?

no, you've misread what I've said - house units can play without 3PV only too, by dropping in the 12 man queue
YOUR comment that I replied to said that we would need entirely seperate maps for 1PV and for 3PV, which isn't the case

Mercs can capture territory for themselves, if you are defending and you want 1PV, but the attackers wanted 3PV, this would cause problems for the territory map. However, because all 12V12 battles are already 1PV only, it removes 3PV as being a concern for Merc units.

If house players winning territory for their house want to play 1PV only, they only need to get 12 man premades together instead of dropping in the 3PV / 4man queue. Yes, it screws solo / small unit players who don't want to play 3PV, BUT your concern about needing 2 different territory maps (one for 1PV and one for 3PV) is not a concern, because the outcome of either type of match can affect the territory map equally.

I'm not defending 3PV, far from it, I'm simply pointing out that the global CW map is not an issue related to it, it is entirely separate.

[Belorion]

Franchi, on 24 September 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Its a bit out of date, but you can see a current count by checking these two pages.
For UN-moderated numbers
http://www.metacriti...ne/user-reviews
For moderated numbers
http://www.metacriti...hwarrior-online

Un-moderated? The links you give show scores from users that don't necessarily write a review along with the rating vs only users that write a review along with their rating.

Protection, on 24 September 2013 - 09:21 PM, said:

No man, it's cool. Fake accounts are noble when you're white knighting.

Which has nothing to do with whether or not the rating is fake. I am sure their are plenty of fake accounts in all 4 groups with the group having the highest potential of fake negative reviews/ratings the negative ratings group.

[VectorCV6]

I really don't understand all the hate. Sure there could be more and we were told there would be more, but frankly I'm just glad I have a solid mech game to play period. So let all the non-skilled whiners complain about this and that. I'd rather play this an hour a night and blow some mechs up then see it go under and be left in the dust with no mech game.

Edited by VectorCV6, 25 September 2013 - 04:33 AM.

[Jestun]

Apoc1138, on 25 September 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

no, you've misread what I've said - house units can play without 3PV only too, by dropping in the 12 man queue
YOUR comment that I replied to said that we would need entirely seperate maps for 1PV and for 3PV, which isn't the case

Mercs can capture territory for themselves, if you are defending and you want 1PV, but the attackers wanted 3PV, this would cause problems for the territory map. However, because all 12V12 battles are already 1PV only, it removes 3PV as being a concern for Merc units.

If house players winning territory for their house want to play 1PV only, they only need to get 12 man premades together instead of dropping in the 3PV / 4man queue.   Yes, it screws solo / small unit players who don't want to play 3PV, BUT your concern about needing 2 different territory maps (one for 1PV and one for 3PV) is not a concern, because the outcome of either type of match can affect the territory map equally.

I'm not defending 3PV, far from it, I'm simply pointing out that the global CW map is not an issue related to it, it is entirely separate.

This whole post seems to rely on the assumption that CW is nothing more than the existing 12 man random opponent queue which assigns some points to the faction that wins. I have seen no official posts stating that, could you link to the source of this please?

VectorCV6, on 25 September 2013 - 04:32 AM, said:

I really don't understand all the hate.  Sure there could be more and we were told there would be more, but frankly I'm just glad I have a solid mech game to play period.  So let all the non-skilled whiners complain about this and that.  I'd rather play this an hour a night and blow some mechs up then see it go under and be left in the dust with no mech game.

You don't understand the concept of a customer (or tester, as it was until recently) giving feedback? Worse still, you think that giving feedback makes one unskilled? O.o

[Farix]

Lagoth, on 25 September 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

Guys, I think it's trying to communicate!!! By the way, try to make your next couple of posts comprehensible. Pretty bad showing for a first post. Also, liking your own posts is a bit lame.

Please don't respond to an obvious troll. That post has been reported and your's will likely be deleted as well for quoting it.

[bobthebomb]

I gave a 5

Quote

this is mechwarrior so this is a good game !!

But on the other hand we have no game room, no matchmaking, no way to balance different mech (no battle value, no tonnage), no visibility of your level (ELO, rating..)

In itself the game is not bad, but the way we play it is terrible "Click the play button and hope you be in a good game". 30% of time you get pug stomped, 30% of time you pug stomp, 30% of time you get a 900 tons vs 700 tons battles, 10% of time you get a good game.

12vs12 game are terrible, and are forced, it's impossible to challenge an enemy lance to do a 4vs4 vs friend....heck we don't even have chatroom "Do you really want chat rooms?"

It's a good game but very far from completion, it's only alive because of the battletech fan base.

Edited by bobthebomb, 25 September 2013 - 07:16 AM.

[Jman5]

Franchi, on 24 September 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Its a bit out of date, but you can see a current count by checking these two pages.
For UN-moderated numbers
http://www.metacriti...ne/user-reviews
For moderated numbers
http://www.metacriti...hwarrior-online

That isn't unmoderated vs moderated. That's total reviews vs written reviews. Lots of people just rated it without writing anything.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Dont you people understand something?

We all have gripes with the game. We all think and know it can and will be better.

But when you spread a negative word about this game it only makes it worse. It will turn people off and drive them away. I feel sorry for a lot o you. Your parents did not teach you 2 simple rules. 1: Its not what you say its how you say it. and 2: Never cut your nose to spite your face.


It sickens me you all claim to love this game yet are taking an active roll in keeping players and money away form it. For every person you drive away is money they can use to hire a new programer.

*spits at some of your feet* SHAME ON YOU!!!!

[FactorlanP]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 25 September 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

Dont you people understand something?

We all have gripes with the game. We all think and know it can and will be better.

But when you spread a negative word about this game it only makes it worse. It will turn people off and drive them away. I feel sorry for a lot o you. Your parents did not teach you 2 simple rules. 1: Its not what you say its how you say it. and 2: Never cut your nose to spite your face.


It sickens me you all claim to love this game yet are taking an active roll in keeping players and money away form it. For every person you drive away is money they can use to hire a new programer.

*spits at some of your feet* SHAME ON YOU!!!!

Now, I haven't posted any reviews anywhere...

But don't YOU understand that there is a large segment of the MWO Community that hates what PGI is doing and has come to the conclusion that the ONLY way PGI will EVER listen is if they feel their bottom line being impacted?

Is this unfortunate? Absolutely.

Is it unexpected? Not really when you consider PGI's continuing failure to communicate effectively with their client community.

Many of the disenfranchised actually would argue that people who refuse to call PGI on their mistakes are actually doing more harm to the LONG TERM future of the game by blindly supporting the dark road that many believe that PGI is going down.

I'm not saying that I totally agree, but I do believe that honest negative reviews are important to force PGI to understand that they have a problem.

This is my opinion, feel free to have your own.

Edited by FactorlanP, 25 September 2013 - 08:13 AM.

[Farix]

FactorlanP, on 25 September 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:

But don't YOU understand that there is a large segment of the MWO Community that hates what PGI is doing and has come to the conclusion that the ONLY way PGI will EVER listen is if they feel their bottom line being impacted?

Is this unfortunate? Absolutely.

The only thing such scorched earth tactics will accomplish is permanently kill the MechWarrior franchise. It won't do anything to change PGI's direction with the game.

[Heffay]

Farix, on 25 September 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

The only thing such scorched earth tactics will accomplish is permanently kill the MechWarrior franchise. It won't do anything to change PGI's direction with the game.

Don't overestimate their influence. That's the mistake they made.

They are only setting their lawns on fire, not the world.

[Jestun]

And what about actual game reviewers who are scoring the game 6/10?

Are they just doing it to spite PGI too?

[Heffay]

Jestun, on 25 September 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

And what about actual game reviewers who are scoring the game 6/10?

Are they just doing it to spite PGI too?

They are bitching about the same thing we all are: No CW.

[Bilbo]

Jestun, on 25 September 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

And what about actual game reviewers who are scoring the game 6/10?

Are they just doing it to spite PGI too?

A 6/10 review for an MVP launch isn't terrible, in my opinion.

[Jestun]

They are reviewing the game in it's current state, because this is the state that PGI launched it in. And the current game is a MOBA (and one with very few features) where you fight one battle after another which only affects your xp & currency.

I certainly hope CW will bring depth to the game, but given how many times the goal posts have been moved back and how long they have been saying that they are working on it we have very little information thus far as to what it actually *is*.

I'm half expecting nothing more than a loyalty point system tied to the existing 12 man queue, but I'm hoping to be proven wrong.

Bilbo, on 25 September 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

A 6/10 review for an MVP launch isn't terrible, in my opinion.

I refer you to:

Shumabot, on 24 September 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

It's 2013.

[Bilbo]

Jestun, on 25 September 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

They are reviewing the game in it's current state, because this is the state that PGI launched it in. And the current game is a MOBA (and one with very few features) where you fight one battle after another which only affects your xp & currency.

I certainly hope CW will bring depth to the game, but given how many times the goal posts have been moved back and how long they have been saying that they are working on it we have very little information thus far as to what it actually *is*.

I'm half expecting nothing more than a loyalty point system tied to the existing 12 man queue, but I'm hoping to be proven wrong.



I refer you to:

Referring anybody to a post by Shumabot will not help your case. But to answer that, if the game were a AAA title in development for more than two years before anyone ever saw it, I might actually agree with the scale.