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[Sybreed]

well, looking at the scores, I'd say a newcomer would think :"Hmm, some frustrated people, but the game itself sounds good".

gj there 10/10 guys. It's all a matter of perception.

[Shumabot]

Farpenoodle, on 17 September 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

Way to put words into my mouth. I only brought up the damn trailer because it's an example of what I'm talking about.

Sorry, I think i put yours and a post above yours together in my head.

[S3dition]

Shumabot, on 17 September 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

Except for all those hundreds of millions who do...

You have a long way to go to prove that. I've played some pretty decent games with a metacritic rating of 50%. Also played some horrible games with a metacritic rating of 90%.

Bottom line, the only people that really care are the people that review bomb. It makes the entire system pointless.

[Bilbo]

Shumabot, on 17 September 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

Stop asking people to lie, please. The game is not a good game, and whether it could be someday is irrelevant. They chose to launch today without a majority of it's features. They CHOSE to launch it today.

In your opinion. In my opinion, the game is pretty good. I enjoy playing it as it is now and hope to see the features in the pipeline come out sooner rather than later.

[Shumabot]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 17 September 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

No doubt in my mind at this point that the people giving sub 5 scores to 0 are purely trolling this game and care nothing for mechwarrior or this franchise.

I really hope PGI or IGN does an article on these trolls in the same vien as the Diablo 3 metacritic fiasco. Gamers have turned into the worst kind of netizens, and this type of behaviour is exactly why eventually we will lose internet anonymity because of the foolish and childish behavior of these morons.

I can guarentee you that any articles about MWOs community issues aren't going to be defending the game, and I can guarantee you that if reviewers cared about this game at all it's actual critical score wouldn't be much above a 5.

S3dition, on 17 September 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

You have a long way to go to prove that. I've played some pretty decent games with a metacritic rating of 50%. Also played some horrible games with a metacritic rating of 90%.

Bottom line, the only people that really care are the people that review bomb. It makes the entire system pointless.

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[Corvus Antaka]

Deathlike, on 17 September 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

You do realize you and others giving it 10 are being equally dishonest like those that are giving it a 0?

Trolling the trolls on the opposite end doesn't actually address the problems that this game faces. All it does is show that irrational people do stupid things. It doesn't work.

I wrote in my review my "honest" answer

when you get stuff like this

"


JTAlweezy
Sep 17, 2013
0
The game is fun no doubt"

a 0 review but the guy says "the game is fun, no doubt?"

****...I need more popcorn. This is super entertainment.

[Victor Morson]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 17 September 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

No doubt in my mind at this point that the people giving sub 5 scores to 0 are purely trolling this game and care nothing for mechwarrior or this franchise.

That is absolutely untrue. Many people PGI burned left; I've enjoyed the game a lot more since the previous patch, but many simply did not come back.

We tried and tried to help this game. But like I just said in my post a minute ago, the devs don't understand their own game or our complaints, but continue going full steam ahead throwing the finger when everyone complains. That's why people are mad, so yes, there are people looking to burn this game now. Some are even doing it less out of anger, and more out of a hope that they can be stopped before they burn the IP down - a futile gesture at this point.

This is a mess. A huge mess. The patch day patch isn't even very good. I'm still laughing about the fact they reduced ghost heat on the AC/2 instead of just removing it. Or the fact that their promise to look at lasers again apparently couldn't come for launch day because, man, an extra five minutes editing XML files is like HARD, man!

[Alois Hammer]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 17 September 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

So if the other trolls are gonna give it 0's, you bet I'm gonna White Knight and give it 10's.

Fixed that for ya.

[Deathlike]

Sybreed, on 17 September 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

well, looking at the scores, I'd say a newcomer would think :"Hmm, some frustrated people, but the game itself sounds good".

gj there 10/10 guys. It's all a matter of perception.

I filter through reviews like if I were shopping @ Newegg.

There's always a chance that a product is DOA and people will say negative things, as it is their right to as a consumer.

On the other hand, when the stuff gets overwhelmingly negative, it is worth looking into why it is negative through the most constructive comments (both negative and positive) to read into the truth.

The thing is, people who just rely on the # and not the details deserve to be fooled. There's plenty of good reasons to show why MWO is bad, just as much as good reasons to show why MWO is good. Showing that you are completely for or against something is akin to fanaticism at the worst levels.

Edited by Deathlike, 17 September 2013 - 12:23 PM.

[Darius Deadeye]

NamesAreStupid, on 17 September 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

Interesting how all the green scores except one are 10s. These people are in such incredible denial. Whatever you may think about the game or PGI, MWO is NOT a 10/10 game.

I'd guess at least a few of the greens are dummies.

Don't be silly. I gave it an honest 8 due to the hours I've logged and the enjoyment I've gotten from playing the game for hours on end, but am now considering changing my score to 10. Why?

Because so many trolls are dumping 0's and 1's on the game. We all know the game is worth at MINIMUM a 4 or a 5, regardless of how you feel about the development process. We are NOT rating development, but the game.

Would you have upwards of a hundred hours in the game, if it was only worth a 0? Short answer, NO. Nobody is that stupid.

Edited by Darius Deadeye, 17 September 2013 - 12:23 PM.

[Shumabot]

Bilbo, on 17 September 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

In your opinion. In my opinion, the game is pretty good. I enjoy playing it as it is now and hope to see the features in the pipeline come out sooner rather than later.

Bilbo, we've covered this. My opinion is better than yours. Straight up. I don't even care that opinions are subjective and inherently unable to be quantitatively compared as better or worse. Your opinions concerning this game are nonsensical white noise, constantly contradicting themselves and clearly based on a nostalgia so powerful you probably remodeled your race-car bed to look like a jenner cockpit.

Edited by Shumabot, 17 September 2013 - 12:24 PM.

[Tice Daurus]

I'll be honest, I posted a review in Metacritic, and I gave MW:O a 5 out of 10. And I posted a long-winded review for it, but I kept it fair, and stated that this could be salvageable if PGI does the work to put in the rest of the featured they promised would be included from last year that they wanted as goals for game launch.

I think giving this a 0/10 is a bad review just because you were upset at what PGI has done, but at the same time, giving a 10/10 to counter their review is just as bad because you are equally being dishonest.

Yes, I love the game. But at the same time, the game is lacking a lot of stuff that was supposed to be promised at game launch. I think if a person just gives a fair and honest review, this would be better for the game, and don't let your emotions get the best of you.

[Shumabot]

DEMAX51, on 17 September 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

Metacritic scores from ACTUAL GAME CRITICS matter (sometimes developer's bonuses are based on hitting a certain metacritic score). User reviews mean *literally* nothing, and everybody knows this.

Except for, y'know, when you agree with them. Then they're the first thing you trot out in every single argument.

[Corvus Antaka]

Alois Hammer, on 17 September 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Fixed that for ya.

Just like a troll to put words into someones mouth.

[Mystere]

vrok, on 17 September 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

Don't worry, I still remember you Mr. Apologist. How are things? Still enjoying all that awesome CW are you? Is that stone-whatever dude still here apologizing for PGI too?

Considering I don't know who you are, should I really care what you say?

As for the game itself, I am still enjoying it, not as much as Total War: Shogun 2, but most certainly more that Total War: Rome II,

[Tombstoner]

Sybreed, on 17 September 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

we tried to help the dog get better. The thing is, the veterinary is actually a stressed out intern, and we're all people with pretty good knowledge of dog's anatomy (BT experts, gaming veterans). Yet, to every suggestion we give to the vet intern, he says: "NO, you're no vet and I know better, deal with what I'm gonna do with your dog and hope he'll get better, it cost 600$ btw".

Wow you couldn't be more right.

[Elwood Blues]

I don't think it is appropriate to rate a game based on developer communication. Rate the game based on how the games is at the time of the review. I think it is perfectly fair to criticize the game for features that are announced but not yet released. Don't criticize the game for forum communication. That's not the game itself.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sybreed, on 17 September 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

And boy it's not pretty.

http://www.metacriti...hwarrior-online

One thing is echoing throughout those critics: The game itself is okay, but it's obvious PGI destroyed all confidence its userbase had, and that is what will ultimately kill MWO.

edit: IGP changed the title from: "Meta critic reviews are in" to "Meta critic reviews are starting"

Makes sense, since your title was somewhat incorrect. "Reviews are In" makes it sound like a set in stone final judgement. Still an evolving (in theory) f2p onlinegame, with only a few reviews, from pretty obviously ******** reviewers. If that is what we deem empirical these days, no wonder so many people need tin oil hats.

Elwood Blues, on 17 September 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

I don't think it is appropriate to rate a game based on developer communication. Rate the game based on how the games is at the time of the review. I think it is perfectly fair to criticize the game for features that are announced but not yet released. Don't criticize the game for forum communication. That's not the game itself.

Yup. Ever try to get communication of any sort from EA? Oy vey.

[S3dition]

Tice Daurus, on 17 September 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

I'll be honest, I posted a review in Metacritic, and I gave MW:O a 5 out of 10. And I posted a long-winded review for it, but I kept it fair, and stated that this could be salvageable if PGI does the work to put in the rest of the featured they promised would be included from last year that they wanted as goals for game launch.

I think giving this a 0/10 is a bad review just because you were upset at what PGI has done, but at the same time, giving a 10/10 to counter their review is just as bad because you are equally being dishonest.

Yes, I love the game. But at the same time, the game is lacking a lot of stuff that was supposed to be promised at game launch. I think if a person just gives a fair and honest review, this would be better for the game, and don't let your emotions get the best of you.

But it only takes 10% of the active voters giving a 0 to destroy any legitimacy of the rating system. The only way a game deserves a 0 is if it blew up your computer and amputated your legs. Seriously, a 0 means there is no art, no sound, no weapons, no textures, no animations, no models, no maps, no scores, no other players.

Maybe all these people just haven't figured out how the installer works and have playing their desktop icons for a year?

[Odins Fist]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 17 September 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

No doubt in my mind at this point that the people giving sub 5 scores to 0 are purely trolling this game

STAGE #1: Denial
STAGE #2: RAGE
STAGE #3: SADNESS
STAGE #4: REALIZATION
STAGE #5: MENTAL COLLAPSE (lying on bathroom floor in fetal postion sucking thumb)
STAGE #5: HIDING IN SHADOWS (wearing tin foil hat)

How is this launch different from what people "ATTEMPTED" to defend as beta..??
This game wasn't BETA 6 months ago, and it wasn't BETA 6 weeks ago. Do you want to know why..?? EVERYONE that was foaming at the mouth, screaming "THIS IS BETA", and "THINGS WILL BE DIFFERENT ON LAUNCH, YOU'LL SEE" will not be standing behind/defending that this is full release/launch. Things are almost no different than they were in BETA, they were wrong.
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The reasons are obvious, goods and services where being sold 6 months ago, just like this very moment at launch, the much touted/as of yet unreleased contentt is still not here, community warfare, UI - 2.0, Clan Tech, etc, etc, etc, etc, just like this very moment. 6 months ago MWO was an unfinished product BROUGHT TO MARKET, anyone on the planet that had an internet connection could create an account and start pumping money into the game, that in itself was enough to disqualify it from a Beta state, but some people still stood on their island, clenched fist raised to the sky screaming "THIS IS BETA" like they were the Spartan King Leonidas, spittle dripping from their chins.. Guess what, things haven't changed at this launch, and MWO is fundamentally the same thing you were playing, and paying for 6 months ago, regardless of a few balance changes and 2 maps added to the same exact gameplay you had 6 months ago..
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Those people that were screaming "THIS IS BETA" must feel like they have just been violated with a night stick. Guess what, "I TOLD YA SO", too bad I told ya so-s aren't worth real money, I would be a wealthy person today.
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Sept 17th 2013 is no different than April 17th 2013 in all reality, but I guess you won't hear the same people defending this launch the same way they wanted to split hairs, and defended "THIS IS BETA".. huh..?? YUUUUP
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I'm not happy that i'm 100% percent correct about the defenders of beta being "WRONG", I really wanted to see more content for MWO, and I also made other predictions about MWO if certain content wasn't done/released by certain dates, so I guess it's a wait and see thing for the next 2 months on whether those predictions "ALSO" come true.
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At this point i'm unimpressed to say the least with the current launch/patch day, i'm not the only person, and i'm "NOT" in the minority on this issue, and now that all the beta defenders are hiding in the shadows, one question needs to be asked..
WHEN..??? The Window of opportunity for MWO has closed even further, and time is growing short.
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A product MUST cater to the consumers desires and or needs, and NOT the other way around, anyone who thinks differently is naive.
Now that MWO is officially launched, there can be no debate on that truth, no excuses, any product must appeal to the wants and needs of a consumer, if said product fails to meet this requirement, then expect consumers to stop consuming/buying/using said product.. The reality of the situation is the reality of the situation, and no amount denial will make the reality any less real.
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It's launch, no excuses now.

Edited by Odins Fist, 17 September 2013 - 12:31 PM.