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[TheSteelRhino]

Wired, on 17 September 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

Ironically, with your constant arguing at people who HAVE voted opposite of your opinion to come off as telling people how to vote.

You say I am ironic ? The irony is in those that say that the only vote that is legit is one that gives a poor rating and all others are bull. Come on now.

I am not telling anyone how to vote. I know that there must be huge numbers of angry people due to the massive numbers of refunds given. Wasnt it like 300? Like 1 % or so?

Do what you want. I am done here b/c to be quite honest life is calling me. And this is a game after all. And if it's not fun for you, don't play....

[DeadlyNerd]

I'd say the reviews are in, and ain't looking good at all.

[Zerberus]

armyof1, on 18 September 2013 - 03:17 AM, said:

I think you've misunderstood the situation, a lot of previous players don't think there is a future for MWO, myself included. When the devs don't really care about what the community is asking for and instead call them the vocal minority, there's no turning back.

armyof1, on 18 September 2013 - 03:33 AM, said:

Not at all, some of us can only be disappointed so many times before giving up and stop believing in all the plans presented by the devs that are never fulfilled. Your thinking we need to change our minds doesn't change that fact.

These posts showcase what many of us can not understand: If you are all soooo ultimately disappointed and feel that there is no future for MWO, then why are you still here apparently wasting your time and effort?

Or is it really just a case of "I used to love her, then I left her, now I`m going to kill her because I still love her after all and can`tj ust admit it becasue that would make me look weak?"

I mean no disrespect, I truly am trying to understand why people that supposedly "love BT" have been doing everything in their power for months to kill the only chance the IP currently has at commercial videogame success, and yet they still say they love BT in all shapes and forms... It strikes me as analagous to saying "I love all dogs, but I absolutely hate german shepherds and need toi kill them with fire"

DeadlyNerd, on 18 September 2013 - 03:58 AM, said:

I'd say the reviews are in, and ain't looking good at all.

from 0.0 - 5.2 in under 24 hours despite the attempted torpedoing is not half bad IMO....

Edited by Zerberus, 18 September 2013 - 04:07 AM.

[Krivvan]

DeadlyNerd, on 18 September 2013 - 03:58 AM, said:

I'd say the reviews are in, and ain't looking good at all.

Games that are successful and considered good have worse user reviews. They don't mean anything.

[armyof1]

Zerberus, on 18 September 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

These posts showcase what many of us can not understand: If you are all soooo ultimately disappointed and feel that there is no future for MWO, then why are you still here apparently wasting your time and effort?

I'm curious to see if what I expect is going to happen will actually happen, so I check the forums now and then. It's not like I'm thinking a lot about and making long posts on how to improve the game, now that would be a lot of wasted time and effort.

Edited by armyof1, 18 September 2013 - 04:08 AM.

[Zerberus]

Fair enough, thank you for the candid response

[Edustaja]

I hate the fact that people cannot make a honest review of the game but instead slap on a zero or a ten.
Pathetic on both accounts.

[80Bit]

You can try and justify it anyway you want but;

If you play a game for hundreds of hours and continue to play that game, then give it a 0 on meta-critic, you are acting like a petulant child. "MWO could have been a fun game, but they put in 3rd person view and now it's the worst game ever made!" Yeah, ok comic book guy. What's that? Oh you still play every week? You play a 0/10 game? Give me a break.

Objectively I give MWO a 7/10. It losses points for launching with lack of game modes, no meta-game (CW, level/ranking), and for the recent C-Bill earning reduction that I feel really hurt the F2P player experience. But it remains a fun game at its core with game-play unlike anything you can get elsewhere.

Subjectively I have to give MWO a 10/10, because it has been the game I play the most by far for almost a year, and to do otherwise would be terribly dishonest.

[Franchi]

Zerberus, on 18 September 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

These posts showcase what many of us can not understand: If you are all soooo ultimately disappointed and feel that there is no future for MWO, then why are you still here apparently wasting your time and effort?

Or is it really just a case of "I used to love her, then I left her, now I`m going to kill her because I still love her after all and can`tj ust admit it becasue that would make me look weak?"

I mean no disrespect, I truly am trying to understand why people that supposedly "love BT" have been doing everything in their power for months to kill the only chance the IP currently has at commercial videogame success, and yet they still say they love BT in all shapes and forms... It strikes me as analagous to saying "I love all dogs, but I absolutely hate german shepherds and need toi kill them with fire"



from 0.0 - 5.2 in under 24 hours despite the attempted torpedoing is not half bad IMO....

Logic goes something like this,

Player loves Mechwarrior/battletech.

Player believes MWO is unworthy of the legacy it inherited.

Player decides it must be purged so that some other developer can pick up the game in 5-10 years and maybe make a worthy one.

80Bit, on 18 September 2013 - 04:26 AM, said:

You can try and justify it anyway you want but;

If you play a game for hundreds of hours and continue to play that game, then give it a 0 on meta-critic, you are acting like a petulant child. "MWO could have been a fun game, but they put in 3rd person view and now it's the worst game ever made!" Yeah, ok comic book guy. What's that? Oh you still play every week? You play a 0/10 game? Give me a break.

Objectively I give MWO a 7/10. It losses points for launching with lack of game modes, no meta-game (CW, level/ranking), and for the recent C-Bill earning reduction that I feel really hurt the F2P player experience. But it remains a fun game at its core with game-play unlike anything you can get elsewhere.

Subjectively I have to give MWO a 10/10, because it has been the game I play the most by far for almost a year, and to do otherwise would be terribly dishonest.

So people like me who have not played for weeks, if not months, and even then only check in to keep current and see if any of the CF has been repaired players who have been arguing against the current direction of the game since before closed beta ended, players who can no longer get any fun out of playing , what about us? Do we get to review it badly?

Edited by Franchi, 18 September 2013 - 04:33 AM.

[Jack Gallows]

Levon K, on 18 September 2013 - 02:43 AM, said:

We've reached a point where both sides need to shake hands, say they're sorry, and work together for the future of MWO.

No, we don't.

Some would rather see MW:O go the wayside so another company down the road can have a hand at making a real Mechwarrior game instead of seeing PGI continue to mangle the current iteration. They've already shown that they won't listen to us, so why come together and try to save MW:O when PGI doesn't want us to save it as they don't see it that way?
If you wish to continue supporting the game, go ahead. Just because a lot of people dislike the game and the company that makes it doesn't mean we don't have very valid opinions that PGI either has to address or ignore and then accept whatever comes after.

Nothing is wrong with looking at the game and trying to offer pros and cons or trying to help people to your side of sticking with it, but you can't say the people who say the game isn't worth your time are wrong either just that you don't agree with them. People have a choice, stay and help MW:O because they like the game, or leave. Either way, voicing why you like it or not is important as it helps give people better information before they get involved with the game. If people don't choose to make an account and play because of bad press....PGI deserves it.

As stated, I agree MW:O doesn't deserve a 10 or a 1, but it's pretty accurate in the 5 to 2 range.

To anyone going "Why are you still here if you don't like the game?" It's because we love Battletech so much and are flabbergasted someone can screw up making a game about it so badly. I'd say some are still here to try to voice to PGI their frustrations, others are here so that anyone who shows up to the game will know what's transpired and won't get blind sided by all the "OMG MW:O AWSUM" blindness that can happen. I'm no longer playing, have gotten a refund on my Project Phoenix Pack, and I mostly just post here in the art section as it generally has nothing to do with actually playing the game or going near it. Otherwise I'd have dropped a huge mostly negative review and left.

Edited by Jack Gallows, 18 September 2013 - 04:34 AM.

[Earl White]

Well I have no real grief with those guys who have put up the 0/10 reviews (although I pity them, and it is rather childish to see). I still enjoy the game, but I am no white knight and I acknowledge the game needs a lot of work to live on.

The only thing which worries me a little is the weight which some people give to metacritic scores without actually reading any reviews at all. Let's hope they can pay off IGN or something for good scores

[Codex Clavdex]

Earl White, on 18 September 2013 - 04:36 AM, said:

Well I have no real grief with those guys who have put up the 0/10 reviews (although I pity them, and it is rather childish to see). I still enjoy the game, but I am no white knight and I acknowledge the game needs a lot of work to live on.

The only thing which worries me a little is the weight which some people give to metacritic scores without actually reading any reviews at all. Let's hope they can pay off IGN or something for good scores

Where do you think the Project Phoenix money is going towards?

[Aerokii]

This would be amusing if it weren't so sad. The circlejerk of hatred continues on Metacritic now- I particularly enjoy the way all the negative reviews have marked eachother as "helpful" while downvoting the positive ones.

What do people think this is going to achieve? If you kill this game, there's no proof or evidence that you'll get a new one. All killing this game does is kill this game. Publishers won't want to touch it if there's no money in it for them.

EDIT: I forgot how to English.

Edited by Aerokii, 18 September 2013 - 05:28 AM.

[nehebkau]

Well I gave it a review on metacritic, and was, hopefully, fair. I wish metacritic would toss out the 10/10 and 0/10s so that there is a more accurate picture of how people review the game.

[Nekki Basara]

merz, on 17 September 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

and yet, here you are, day after day.. (assuming you meant very little, because the opposite would kind of sound like a threat)

No, I mean most people just don't care. Speaking only for the Word of Lowtax, most of just just don't play anymore, and only really think about the game when someone brings up something giggleworthy. The only reason I bother posting is amuse myself, and if the game someday gets back on its feet then sure, I'll play again and tell people.

[Lukoi Banacek]

I still regulalrly play and tried to give a fair and relatively objective assessment. Took all 5000 characters and still could not cover all of the good and bad I thought deserved discussion. Ultimately I enioy the crew I play with and facets of the game but not the lacking overall experience. I gave the game a five and acknowledged that with several areas open to improvement or upgrading by PGI (lobbies, CW etc) the game has promise.

Just a very underwhelming game to start with considering it is live.

Http://www.metacritic.com/user/Lukoi

[DeadlyNerd]

Krivvan, on 18 September 2013 - 04:02 AM, said:

Games that are successful and considered good have worse user reviews. They don't mean anything.

I love the delusion some people have about this game.
There's a spot on your right shoulder. Better get it looking shiny white again.

[bobzadar]

I know that yesterday was the official launch and that some people were really hyped about it. PGI kind of hinted that something special was in the works and people were just expecting more. I was expecting something, but I am on for the long haul and want a storyline to develop. Life is a journey, we are an instant gratification society, and people forget that not every hour of the day is filled with excitement. The tortoise won the race because he did not burn out to fast, so lets have fun and be here for a while.... my 2 cents.

[Sudden Reversal]

Average 5.3

Ouch!

[Nekki Basara]

bobzadar, on 18 September 2013 - 06:43 AM, said:

The tortoise won the race because he did not burn out to fast, so lets have fun and be here for a while.... my 2 cents.

The Tortoise won because the Hare stopped running. Are you suggesting that all competitors will stop running?