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[IllCaesar]

This is a really stupid idea I have rolling around but...

The Kit Fox G has an ECM left arm and the Kit Fox C has an ECM right arm. Wouldn't be able to toggle one for disrupt and the other for counter, would I?

I said it was a stupid idea.

[DFM]

IllCaesar, on 16 February 2018 - 09:04 PM, said:

This is a really stupid idea I have rolling around but...

The Kit Fox G has an ECM left arm and the Kit Fox C has an ECM right arm. Wouldn't be able to toggle one for disrupt and the other for counter, would I?

I said it was a stupid idea.

kit fox G? Where is that from?

And probably not, if you can even take a ECM in each slot.

[IllCaesar]

DFM, on 16 February 2018 - 09:21 PM, said:

kit fox G? Where is that from?

And probably not, if you can even take a ECM in each slot.

Loyalty Kit Fox from last year, its being put up in the gift store in the next patch and presumably for C-Bills a month or two later.

https://mwomercs.com...-notes-feb-20th

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b#i=646&l=stock

[DFM]

Ahh, thanks.

Must have skimmed over that in the 3 updates to be read tonight.

[Tesunie]

IllCaesar, on 16 February 2018 - 09:04 PM, said:

This is a really stupid idea I have rolling around but...

The Kit Fox G has an ECM left arm and the Kit Fox C has an ECM right arm. Wouldn't be able to toggle one for disrupt and the other for counter, would I?

I said it was a stupid idea.

You are limited to only a single ECM being equipped at a given time on a mech. So no. You could only ever have an ECM on either the right or the left arm, never on both at the same time. (Much like the APs.)

[Tim East]

Koniving, on 14 February 2018 - 07:12 AM, said:

2) You have no slots left to add something BUT was able to regardless due to a loading error. But it would tell you that your build is illegal and you have a slot error.

Stealth armor seems to cause this problem for me frequently, I believe due to the way Endo Steel slot use works. Not relevant for the Hellbringer, but worth noting.

IllCaesar, on 16 February 2018 - 09:04 PM, said:

This is a really stupid idea I have rolling around but...

The Kit Fox G has an ECM left arm and the Kit Fox C has an ECM right arm. Wouldn't be able to toggle one for disrupt and the other for counter, would I?

I said it was a stupid idea.

You cannot. I tried to equip 2 and it wouldn't let me.

Edited by Tim East, 17 February 2018 - 08:42 AM.

[Makisig]

Is the FORUM search function NOT working?

Edited by Makisig, 17 February 2018 - 10:01 AM.

[Tesunie]

Makisig, on 17 February 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

Is the FORUM search function NOT working?

It works... but not very well.

There is no way to organize your search results. This can lead to a lot of older threads getting revived accidentally, among other problems.

If you have any specific questions (that aren't too lengthy), bring them up here. Many of us are more than willing to try and help to the best of our knowledge.

[Makisig]

Tesunie, on 17 February 2018 - 10:08 AM, said:

It works... but not very well.

There is no way to organize your search results. This can lead to a lot of older threads getting revived accidentally, among other problems.

If you have any specific questions (that aren't too lengthy), bring them up here. Many of us are more than willing to try and help to the best of our knowledge.

I literally tried to search for the word "stomp" because I wanted to see if anybody else was always getting stomped (been playing 2 hours+, but won only once, and most games were "stomps").

Search result returned nothing. To test, I also tried to search for "catapult" -- still nothing.


P.S.
You can tell I'm really getting frustrated that I keep on losing. I'm Tier 3 -- dunno if that has anything to do with it.

Edited by Makisig, 17 February 2018 - 10:22 AM.

[Tesunie]

Makisig, on 17 February 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

I literally tried to search for the word "stomp" because I wanted to see if anybody else was always getting stomped (been playing 2 hours+, but won only once, and most games were "stomps").

Search result returned nothing. To test, I also tried to search for "catapult" -- still nothing.


P.S.
You can tell I'm really getting frustrated that I keep on losing. I'm Tier 3 -- dunno if that has anything to do with it.

Maybe the search broke again if you are getting nothing back at all... Wouldn't be the first time it's gone down.

Stomps can happen, and sometimes you can find yourself feeling like it's happening more often (or non-stop). Some of this can depend upon your PSR tier level, what time of day you are playing and whom you are playing with/against.

At PSR T3, you are now able and more likely to drop against T2 and even T1 players. You are fighting a larger range of player skills, so it may be harder to do what you once was able to do.

Another thing with time of day is that certain player types tend to be on a certain days and certain times. Right now, you are early morning and on the weekends. A lot of players may be on right now that are only able to get on during the weekends, as well as there tends to be a rash of griefing accounts created every weekend it seems... So there is also that to consider.

As far as Comp players, I'm not sure when they tend to get on. I normally find (where I live and timezone) that mornings tend to be rougher with my matches than evening times. But late night matches tend to get more difficult again. I've actually started to play different games in the morning over this one because I don't like the stress that early in the morning...

Your mech choice can also have an impact on your results, so do keep that in mind if you are using a new mech (to you) as well as what type of mech it is...

[Makisig]

Tesunie, on 17 February 2018 - 10:32 AM, said:

Stomps can happen, and sometimes you can find yourself feeling like it's happening more often (or non-stop). Some of this can depend upon your PSR tier level, what time of day you are playing and whom you are playing with/against.

At PSR T3, you are now able and more likely to drop against T2 and even T1 players. You are fighting a larger range of player skills, so it may be harder to do what you once was able to do.

Another thing with time of day is that certain player types tend to be on a certain days and certain times. Right now, you are early morning and on the weekends. A lot of players may be on right now that are only able to get on during the weekends, as well as there tends to be a rash of griefing accounts created every weekend it seems... So there is also that to consider.

As far as Comp players, I'm not sure when they tend to get on. I normally find (where I live and timezone) that mornings tend to be rougher with my matches than evening times. But late night matches tend to get more difficult again. I've actually started to play different games in the morning over this one because I don't like the stress that early in the morning...

Thanks, Tesunie.

I'm pretty sure I've been losing for 2+ hours before I got a win, because I was just trying to get "first win of the day" (double XP) for a Catapult I'm trying to level up and it took me 2+ hours.

It just feels so odd that I'm always on the losing side (makes me think if I'm always fighting T2 or T1 players while my team is T3 or T4 because -- so much stomps! Best fight was 6- 12 -- still a loss -- I kid you not!).

Anyway, appreciate the tips on when to play/not to play -- I will need to find out the best time for me.

Thank you for putting some time and effort to respond.

[Tesunie]

Makisig, on 17 February 2018 - 10:51 AM, said:

Anyway, appreciate the tips on when to play/not to play -- I will need to find out the best time for me.

Thank you for putting some time and effort to respond.

My rule of thumb is. if I'm getting frustrated, it's time for a break. Sometimes, just a 5 minute break is all that is needed to get you from dropping with the same groups. So that advise is more aligned to not pushing and burning yourself out because you are frustrated. Why stress? It's a game.

I try my best.

[Tim East]

Catapult can be rough anyway, depending on which one you are using and what you put on it. If you hit T3 and are trying LRMs still, know that LRMs have a weird skill curve where they seem really easy at first, then get really useless as you come up against enemies using radar deprivation and cover properly, and then get ok again as you learn to utilize terrain yourself.

I almost never shoot LRMs at someone else's lock anymore; having LoS myself is just worlds better.

[Koniving]

Makisig, on 17 February 2018 - 10:22 AM, said:

I literally tried to search for the word "stomp" because I wanted to see if anybody else was always getting stomped (been playing 2 hours+, but won only once, and most games were "stomps").

Search result returned nothing. To test, I also tried to search for "catapult" -- still nothing.


P.S.
You can tell I'm really getting frustrated that I keep on losing. I'm Tier 3 -- dunno if that has anything to do with it.

In tier 3, one must remember that you'll have players from as low as tier 5... and players as high as tier 1, and you won't necessarily have it equal on both sides though the game supposedly tries. As such you may have a few tier 1s on say the other team and a number of tier 5s on yours, so... yeah.

Spoiler

For example after a recent...forum encounter, I discovered that a name I semi-frequently encounter in matches at certain low population times of the day/night is actually a tier 1 player within the top 50 players, whom appears in my matches while I'm alongside people whom are asking questions like how to change weapon groups.

I have a thread that may help with some basic things for dealing with stomps and certain other issues.

https://mwomercs.com...al-tips-to-mwo/

These may help. They are not guaranteed to change everything, but they may at least help you recognize the signs before things go south.

Note: Those were written in 2014.
As such it doesn't factor in the possibility that you can communicate with voice. If you can, there's a spot under Blitzkrieg as the first potential victim of an enemy's team-wide push...
Instead of what it calls for (spamming the target button which was the universal message for "HELP THEY ARE ALL OVER HERE!!!!!" before we had a command wheel), you should request help in voice .
Or use the command wheel with a quick target spam [to indicate the sheer volume of the threat you're calling for help against] before holding a target that you intend to focus on.

Good luck.

Worth tacking on, apparently there was a recent change where tier 2 can face as low as tier 5, and tier 1 faces as low as tier 4.

Edited by Koniving, 19 February 2018 - 10:48 AM.

[Kin3ticX]

Makisig, on 17 February 2018 - 10:51 AM, said:

Thanks, Tesunie.

I'm pretty sure I've been losing for 2+ hours before I got a win, because I was just trying to get "first win of the day" (double XP) for a Catapult I'm trying to level up and it took me 2+ hours.

It just feels so odd that I'm always on the losing side (makes me think if I'm always fighting T2 or T1 players while my team is T3 or T4 because -- so much stomps! Best fight was 6- 12 -- still a loss -- I kid you not!).

Anyway, appreciate the tips on when to play/not to play -- I will need to find out the best time for me.

Thank you for putting some time and effort to respond.

Losing and winning streaks are common. People remember the losses more than the wins so its easy to feel like you lost 6 games in a row when it was only 4 or 5. In the long run, it evens out.

Its possible to have even worse losing streaks but i dont think they will stay the norm as long as you improve. In the long run, you should have ~50% win rate and even better means you are having a greater impact.

If you want to win more games, the only person that can make that happen is you, so try to hone your skill in a mech. It just takes a lot of time to pick up on all the various subtleties in the mech construction rules as well as learning the various maps. However, losing in the mechlab before you hit "play now" is a real thing, so make sure you build the best mechs you can to eliminate that low hanging fruit. For builds I suggest asking for them on twitch rather than the forums.

I wouldn't get builds on the forums because to be fair, these forums are full of bad advice, really bad. If you want to protect yourself you can look up players on Jarls list to see if they remotely know what they are talking about.

I throw you some more low hanging fruit.

1. Use low more sensitivity and your aim will improve. The default is insanely high, 1.0 being the default I think. If you have ~1000 DPS mouse the ingame should be in the ballpark of ~.2. Even with no map awareness and bad positioning, a good aim is a good start.

2. Front load armor. The stock armor allocations are really bad. Front armor will save you 19/20 times and rear armor goes to waste when you die from the front. Sure someone will backstab you sometimes but resist the urge to up the rear armor. Im only using 4pts of rear as a starting point and I go slightly up or down from there.

3. Try not to yolo (b line into the enemy) in and die in the first minutes. Hang back and try to find the right mix of dealing damage and taking hits, trading shots, etc etc (but do hang back so much you are outright hiding and not sharing armor with your friends). Keep an eye on player names and follow players that are more experienced and help them. Keep an eye out for who does consistently good and size up your opponents and friends.

4. Hang out on https://www.twitch.t...arrior%20Online you can also ask questions there and watch people play. You can use it to get 2nd and 3rd opinions incase someone gives you bad advice.

Edited by Kin3ticX, 17 February 2018 - 06:58 PM.

[IllCaesar]

Makisig, on 17 February 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

Is the FORUM search function NOT working?

If I may make a recommendation, search for specific topics by using Google Advanced Search.

https://www.google.com/advanced_search

Where it says "site or domain" you plug in https://mwomercs.com/forums/ so that it only takes results from here. Then you put whatever you want to search for in "this exact word or phrase." You can try "all these words" but I don't recommend it because it takes the results of an entire forum page with dozens of posts, meaning that most of the time it'll just be a coincidence that they all appeared.

Anyways, as for the Catapult, what build are you using? I don't LRM too much anymore but when I started MWO I was using LRMs as a crutch and I learned most of the do's and don't's through experience. I don't think that they're garbage like others say but you definitely do have to know how to use them right to be truly successful with them at lower tiers and to even just be mediocre with them at higher tiers.

Edited by IllCaesar, 18 February 2018 - 05:00 PM.

[Spare Parts Bin]

IllCaesar, on 18 February 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

If I may make a recommendation, search for specific topics by using Google Advanced Search.

https://www.google.com/advanced_search

Where it says "site or domain" you plug in https://mwomercs.com/forums/ so that it only takes results from here. Then you put whatever you want to search for in "this exact word or phrase." You can try "all these words" but I don't recommend it because it takes the results of an entire forum page with dozens of posts, meaning that most of the time it'll just be a coincidence that they all appeared.

Anyways, as for the Catapult, what build are you using? I don't LRM too much anymore but when I started MWO I was using LRMs as a crutch and I learned most of the do's and don't's through experience. I don't think that they're garbage like others say but you definitely do have to know how to use them right to be truly successful with them at lower tiers and to even just be mediocre with them at higher tiers.

Some maps like Polar Highlands make LRMS seem better. I wish each Mech could carry twin AMS.

[Koniving]

Spare Parts Bin, on 19 February 2018 - 05:58 AM, said:

Some maps like Polar Highlands make LRMS seem better. I wish each Mech could carry twin AMS.

Even single AMS can do wonders if players would actually bring them.

The only excuse is if you're playing the Cicada X-5: Only mech in the game that cannot carry one.

Since AMs works against all missiles (not just LRMs), there is really no reason at all to not have at least one AMS.

[Makisig]

Thanks for the good advice, everybody (Tesunie, Tim East, Koniving, Kin3ticX and IIICeasar). Appreciate your insights and your efforts to respond.

For the record, I don't Lurm (hate em -- hate polar highlands LOL). I use a Catapult Jester with Lasers and twin AMS.

Edited by Makisig, 19 February 2018 - 09:00 AM.

[Horseman]

You might want to try CPLT-A1 with 6x ASRM-6. It's basically a pocket-sized splatclops.