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[RapierE01]

@ Grothaus why you are QQ about the spiders nerf? If you are such a good Player it shouldnt have any effect on you and your godlike skills with the Spider.


On Training Grounds i found the new CT HItbox on the Awesome. But the Atlas was coreable through his pelvic area

[kuangmk11]

Grothaus, on 19 November 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

no matter, i jumped on my jenner the other night and immediately did 1.1k damage, next match i got 7 kills, so yea.... i guess ill start playing my jenner more, and give all you whiny QQers something to really cry about.....

See what happens when you decide to contribute to your team?

[Threat Doc]

Nice patch; thank you.

I can't wait to see what you do with the Catapult's boxes, since 95% of kills on me, unfortunately, have been Center Torso only. Oh, there's damage to the other torso's, but almost every one of my deaths have been because of Center Torso.

[MonkeyCheese]

anubis969, on 19 November 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Those aren't hitboxes you are seeing in the mechlab. So for PGI to update them they would have to implement them first . But that won't happen because, for better or worse, PGI has stated that they do not intend to publish 'mech hitboxes.

makes me sad

[Wraithlord77]

I buy the Storm pack and got 3 mechs that are at best average and medalions that do nothing what a wast of money and now you present us with a patch that has mostly fix's we dont realy need ,mech's that a lot of us have already and modules that are usless ,a massive patch (3 feckin hrs to download WHAT!!) that to me, as a player is full of...well... nothing. , Im not even sure ill download the update now . Am i the only one who feels like i just got kicked in the back.

[Geek Verve]

NamesAreStupid, on 19 November 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

it [CW] was supposed to be added in january, but no problem you're only off by what 9 months?
It matters because they set a date. Saying it's a beta isn't and never was a blanket excuse to do as you please, especially to the founders to whom you promised things.

Yeah, it kind of is. That's what beta is all about. You chose to fork over your cash (hopefully) understanding this. Nothing is written in stone during beta. It's a time when devs offer early access to the game they're developing to get feedback and bug reports from the player base, nothing more. This player base just happened to be happy paying for certain perks during that period (like I said, I probably would have as well).

If you want to view it as a failed game that hit you with a major "bait and switch", that's fine. We can just agree to disagree. Just don't delude yourself into thinking they "owe" you anything that was discussed during *BETA*, especially when you were never *required* to pay them a dime to play their game during all that time.

I didn't watch the video you linked, but I've seen other video interviews on the subject, and I'm guessing any time they said things like, "our intention is", "the plan is" or, "we hope to", what you heard was "we promise, cross our hearts".

[arghmace]

MrBlonde42, on 19 November 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Hanging items are now standing items. New Hanging items rolling out, and all of them will be viewable most of the time.

What do you mean "rolling out"? Anyways what I now have is 2 items equippable. Earlier I could equip 3 of them. How is this better? All the flags I purchased are now basically unusable, ffs.

Edited by arghmace, 19 November 2013 - 02:19 PM.

[Dagger6T6]

Grothaus, on 19 November 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

There was nothing wrong with spiders,.... the prob is more or less with bad players with poor aim and poor judgement, who can barely hit anything thats not standing still or moving slow.... let alone focusing on specific components...

I respectfully disagree and I'm not here to convince you or to try to change your opinion... but in my experience the Spider did indeed have a problem. Spiders are routinely the last mech standing... they are often cherry red all over yet still absorbing hits... they can also take direct hits when shutdown or standing still that would put other light mechs out of commission... I can pilot a Spider in same manner as any other light mech and have increased battlefield longevity with little to no effort.

In short I'm not a top tier elite light pilot, yet I can run the field at will in a Spider. I don't think the majority of the complaints about the Spider are from people with bad aim or can't play. Is it the actual hitboxes? is it HSR? are the hitboxes increases being used to compensate for bad HSR? that is for PGI to decide I suppose, but I'm looking forward to seeing how this patch performs

[Geek Verve]

Kay Wolf, on 19 November 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

Nice patch; thank you.

I can't wait to see what you do with the Catapult's boxes, since 95% of kills on me, unfortunately, have been Center Torso only. Oh, there's damage to the other torso's, but almost every one of my deaths have been because of Center Torso.

Careful what you wish for. Reducing the CT hitbox would likely eliminate the XL engines as an option in your Cats.

[New Day]

Geek Verve, on 19 November 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Yeah, it kind of is. That's what beta is all about. You chose to fork over your cash (hopefully) understanding this. Nothing is written in stone during beta. It's a time when devs offer early access to the game they're developing to get feedback and bug reports from the player base, nothing more. This player base just happened to be happy paying for certain perks during that period (like I said, I probably would have as well).

If you want to view it as a failed game that hit you with a major "bait and switch", that's fine. We can just agree to disagree. Just don't delude yourself into thinking they "owe" you anything that was discussed during *BETA*, especially when you were never *required* to pay them a dime to play their game during all that time.

I didn't watch the video you linked, but I've seen other video interviews on the subject, and I'm guessing any time they said things like, "our intention is", "the plan is" or, "we hope to", what you heard was "we promise, cross our hearts".

Now you are arguing semantics and I'm not going to go dig around the archives, NGNG or wherever just to find the one time they say 'CW will be out in January/February/March/April/June/July/August/September/November'.

[OICU812]

3 patches on and still no fix for clipable buildings in River City!?!

[Bront]

MonkeyCheese, on 19 November 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

Please update the visual hitboxes in the mechlab when you update them, quite frustrating.

THey never have reflected the correct hitboxes on the mech, and PGI has said they won't reflect them either.

[Antonio]

Kay Wolf, on 19 November 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

Nice patch; thank you.

I can't wait to see what you do with the Catapult's boxes, since 95% of kills on me, unfortunately, have been Center Torso only. Oh, there's damage to the other torso's, but almost every one of my deaths have been because of Center Torso.

I certainly hope they don't change the Catapults hit boxes. I quite like my XL engine.

[Geek Verve]

NamesAreStupid, on 19 November 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Now you are arguing semantics and I'm not going to go dig around the archives, NGNG or wherever just to find the one time they say 'CW will be out in January/February/March/April/June/July/August/September/November'.

Their "promises" were just part of the discussion at hand. My assertion is merely that it's silly to claim you've been waiting for almost a year, when eight months of that time was during beta, where you really have no grounds for expectations of *anything*.

I haven't seen where they "promised" it in November, but I fixed the rest for you (again, Jan.-Aug. was during beta and therefore irrelevant). You're acting like the game actually *launched* in December. That's just not a reasonable stance.

[Yamagiru]

OICU812, on 19 November 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

3 patches on and still no fix for clipable buildings in River City!?!

Nothing like getting killed from someone you can't see!

[Xeno Phalcon]

CONFIRMED: BAP countering ECM does give the cbill/xp bonus.

[New Day]

Geek Verve, on 19 November 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

Their "promises" were just part of the discussion at hand. My assertion is merely that it's silly to claim you've been waiting for almost a year, when eight months of that time was during beta, where you really have no grounds for expectations of *anything*.

I haven't seen where they "promised" it in November, but I fixed the rest for you (again, Jan.-Aug. was during beta and therefore irrelevant). You're acting like the game actually *launched* in December. That's just not a reasonable stance.

Fine, your opinion is that Beta doesn't count. Many others, including mine is that it counts, whatever. We aren't going to agree so might as well end it here.

You just keep on harping about how the Beta doesn't count.

Xeno Phalcon, on 19 November 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

CONFIRMED: BAP countering ECM does give the cbill/xp bonus.

How much?

Edited by NamesAreStupid, 19 November 2013 - 02:35 PM.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

People keep asking me what PGI does all day:

[Black Templar]

Kind of sad that it took so long to adjust the hitboxes on said mechs. The changes are much appreciated and I will test them asap

[Bront]

Grr.

Patch was 50% complete (ETA was under an hour), was corrupted.

Now, the patch is downloading, ETA: 7 hours

I was in theory supposed to be in a tourny tonight.