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[Murilo Specht]

2.47, used to be well over 3 during closed and open beta, but has been dropping since people started using PPC+Gauss builds, I am still mostly a brawler.

Never really cared about stats though, I often sacrifice myself for the team, I'd rather die and win than have a higher KDR.

Grinding the Locust could be another reason for my drop in KDR.

Edited by Murilo Specht, 26 November 2013 - 01:38 PM.

[AdamBaines]

.......and mine is still awful.........

[PropagandaWar]

Last I looked it was at 1.35 6000+games. However when I really cared it was 2.36 lol. Part of it is do to screwing around a lot. The other my Hunch and Cent SRM's not registering quite often. The rest is everyone else fault for stealing my kills . In all honesty I have my team if I'm running in a pre finish them off because I'm to busy looking over the battlefield or being a shield if it means a win (again not when I'm screwing around). Only when I'm pugging do I go for the kill of kills. One of my guys came in at a 8.29 kdr but it has dropped quite a bit (Even though he is one hell of a finisher) mainly because he's with some competent non selfish people that work as team and has said since then it has dropped quite a bit. I want to say that those who have the modest KDR's at least in team play have the same group of great team players.

[Ellen Ripley]

Piipu, on 26 November 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

To conclusively prove that these are in fact genuine statistics, I'm going to post my 'Mech stat page as well. Now can you please stop being so jealous and carry on with the thread?

Sorry, but I question those numbers for the Jenner F.
- The death number is 86.43 - Death numbers are always displayed in full numbers in the MW-O Mechstats.
- The wins and loses combined are 1872, when the total number of matches played is shown as 1869.
- Also your wins devided by your loses turns out at 1.589211blablabla. It would be rounded to 1.59 not 1.58

[3rdworld]

Oh and once you get over 24 hours, it displays time as days, 93 hours would not say 93 hours. It would say 3 Days 21:30:32

[jtyotJOTJIPAEFVJ]

Ellen Ripley, on 26 November 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Sorry, but I question those numbers for the Jenner F.
- The death number is 86.43 - Death numbers are always displayed in full numbers in the MW-O Mechstats.
- The wins and loses combined are 1872, when the total number of matches played is shown as 1869.
- Also your wins devided by your loses turns out at 1.589211blablabla. It would be rounded to 1.59 not 1.58

1) Floating point error. These things happen in programming all the time, look it up.
2) That number does not count draws so it is inaccurate.
3) It doesn't round anything, it simply displays the first two decimals of the ratio.

I love how these arguments crumple like flies when exposed to cold, hard facts.

[Ellen Ripley]

Piipu, on 26 November 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

1) Floating point error. These things happen in programming all the time, look it up.
2) That number does not count draws so it is inaccurate.
3) It doesn't round anything, it simply displays the first two decimals of the ratio.

I love how these arguments crumple like flies when exposed to cold, hard facts.

Trolltastic!

As for your "cold hard facts":
2) Even if draws/ties would not count as a win or a loss they still count into the total number of matches played. Also it would only be able to explain a higher total number of "matches played" than combined win + loses, not the other way around.
3) Of course the stats are being rounded in the table. The W/L and the K/D ratio both get rounded to the 2nd position after the decimal point.

And yes, as 3rdworld has pointed out, you also failed at coming up with the correct format for "Time Played"

[Zplayer]

Piipu, on 26 November 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

1) Floating point error. These things happen in programming all the time, look it up.
2) That number does not count draws so it is inaccurate.
3) It doesn't round anything, it simply displays the first two decimals of the ratio.

Floating Point Error - Apart from the ratio's these are whole numbers, it would be seriously bad practice to store whole numbers as FLOATS - you wouldn't do it, not unless you are thick as ****.

And it does Round;

3rdworld, on 26 November 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Oh and once you get over 24 hours, it displays time as days, 93 hours would not say 93 hours. It would say 3 Days 21:30:32

443/92 = 4.8152 yet it displays 4.82!?? that's rounded I'm afraid. So I find it very hard to believe it wouldn't round your values not to mention display you date/time correctly either.

[RamsoPanzer]

I think i will call the ghosbusters, because there are too many phantoms in this thread..

[Scurry]

Ellen Ripley, on 26 November 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Trolltastic!

As for your "cold hard facts":
2) Even if draws/ties would not count as a win or a loss they still count into the total number of matches played. Also it would only be able to explain a higher total number of "matches played" than combined win + loses, not the other way around.
3) Of course the stats are being rounded in the table. The W/L and the K/D ratio both get rounded to the 2nd position after the decimal point.

And yes, as 3rdworld has pointed out, you also failed at coming up with the correct format for "Time Played"

Zplayer, on 27 November 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

Floating Point Error - Apart from the ratio's these are whole numbers, it would be seriously bad practice to store whole numbers as FLOATS - you wouldn't do it, not unless you are thick as ****.

And it does Round;

443/92 = 4.8152 yet it displays 4.82!?? that's rounded I'm afraid. So I find it very hard to believe it wouldn't round your values not to mention display you date/time correctly either.

Add that to how his time played indicates an average of 3 minutes per match.......that's short.....

[Zplayer]

Piipu, on 02 November 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

The 1V has 2 AMS. It helps a bit I guess but you still die all the time.

Die a lot?? you don't die a lot according to your stats - oh wait hang on.

Piipu, on 23 October 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Now that looks like you piloting a Locust, where's that it your stats that miraculously all add up without the locust being there. . . . .

Piipu, on 26 November 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

Combined Wins = 1,172 (note: no Locust)

Piipu, on 25 November 2013 - 11:02 AM, said:

And look Wins = 1,172

Yet you won in a Locust LOL LOL LOL - Explain that one chief.

Edited by Zplayer, 27 November 2013 - 02:33 AM.

[jtyotJOTJIPAEFVJ]

Zplayer, on 27 November 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

Floating Point Error - Apart from the ratio's these are whole numbers, it would be seriously bad practice to store whole numbers as FLOATS - you wouldn't do it, not unless you are thick as ****.

And it does Round;

443/92 = 4.8152 yet it displays 4.82!?? that's rounded I'm afraid. So I find it very hard to believe it wouldn't round your values not to mention display you date/time correctly either.

I'm fairly sure that image has been tampered with. Why else would he post only one of his mech variants? That would also explain the inconsistent rounding of ratios as well as the incorrect time format he used accidentally while attempting to falsify his stats out of jealousy towards my formidable k/d ratio. Also, if you look closely, you will notice that his XP/damage ratio is roughly 2 while the one on my Jenner is much closer to 1. This seems rather suspect to me as well.

Zplayer, on 27 November 2013 - 02:33 AM, said:

Die a lot?? you don't die a lot according to your stats - oh wait hang on.
Now that looks like you piloting a Locust, where's that it your stats that miraculously all add up without the locust being there. .
Combined Wins = 1,172 (note: no Locust)
And look Wins = 1,172
Yet you won in a Locust LOL LOL LOL - Explain that one chief.

I don't recall saying this was on my main account? Wouldn't it be a bit weird of me to have no extra mechs while also being a founder at the same time? Especially since I'm a founder with supposedly 0 MC as seen in one of the pictures you were so eager to quote. No, those stats are from my alt account I use to have the occasional amusing PUG game with.

It's funny how you claim have hard evidence when you use either edited images as proof or even post an image that outright contradicts your accusations. All evidence so far has been anecdotal at best. You either need to do better or stop this silly witch hunt.

Edited by Piipu, 27 November 2013 - 03:08 AM.

[Zplayer]

You Jenner JR7-D's ratio is rounded 41/12 = 3.4166 is that doctored as well??? but anyway this is getting very very boring. And if you can read the HEADING
What's Your K/d Ratio?

"YOUR", not the suddenly tremendous amazing appearance of your "ALT's" K/d Ratio.

[-Muta-]

Piipu, on 25 November 2013 - 11:02 AM, said:

OMG!

[C E Dwyer]

K/D is pointless give you a little and obvious example

Who's the better pilot

1, The comando pilot that keeps their KD at around the 2.0 mark who only ever plays in PUGs

2, The Victor pilot thats groups with his her friends all the time uses viop and has a K/D ratio in the region of 5.0

With the current chasis I have at least three of each type and some are close to completing all variants, I plan to fillout all these chasis and then get picky from feb onwards, I won't buy or own a clan mech, I have never sold a mech to jump start my next chasis thats right I have the pixel beasts are in my mechbays

I have 91 mechs I've either gone solo in pugs or pair up the last month about 20% of my time and once I was in a team of 4, viop never been used I have ground these mechs from scratch as in there was no CB's to get ENDO,DHS from the first game, so basically my first matchs were in the equivalent of a trial mech (before they fitted out dhs FF and endo in champion trials)

Most of my builds are not optimised but builds I want to play

I have bad arthritus which means I must use a joystick and mouse or it becomes to painful to play at times

my k/d is slightly over 1

[C E Dwyer]

I look at all the sadness and arguing above.

Have only this to say

I really could care less about K/D ratios i posted my own to show how pointless they are as everyones rig is different every ones circumstances are different

If people are doctoring or using alt/phantom accounts to inflate their personal k/d ratio then its rather sad, and shows how shallow these people are.

People arguing about if its false or not well, that's kind of shallow as well ,because its just showing that you don't want to admit someone might possibly be better than you at zapping pixel robots.

be nice if people would grow up stop playing measure the sausage, behind the bike sheds, stop acting like 12 year olds

[Divine Retribution]

Cathy, on 27 November 2013 - 08:01 AM, said:

People arguing about if its false or not well, that's kind of shallow as well ,because its just showing that you don't want to admit someone might possibly be better than you at zapping pixel robots.

be nice if people would grow up stop playing measure the sausage, behind the bike sheds, stop acting like 12 year olds

I think you are misunderstanding what's going on. It's not about not being able to accept that someone is better than you at something. It's mostly about honesty, a foreign concept on the Internet (and frequently in the real world as well). It's one anomalous post followed by folks calling shenanigans, resulting in a back and forth exchange. Then my postings try to highlight my utmost disdain for the play style required to achieve those stats (running and hiding) and disrespect for anyone using said tactics to preserve the useless k/d ratio statistic, in a way I thought would minimize the risk of deletion. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding... So I'll just go with this:

People who call out people for calling people out about arguments over irrelevant statistics are kind of shallow. And people calling people shallow for calling people shallow about calling people shallow because of an argument over irrelevant statistics are really shallow (That's me! Woohoo!). And the best part is that the chain can simply keep growing.

Be nice if people understood what they were commenting on before calling folks immature, implying that they are involved or have been involved in the crime of public indecency (possible felony depending on circumstances), and promoting the sexist notion that only guys become involved in egotistical arguments (as it's improbable to find a pair of females behind a shed measuring sausages, even if they wouldn't be the sausages you seem to be implying)...

Edited by Divine Retribution, 27 November 2013 - 09:23 AM.

[Flyby215]

Overall: 6,700 matches, 1.36 W/L, 2.48 K/D

Best: STK-5S, 350 matches, 3.06 W/L, 4.9 K/D, PUG only (this mech was to prove a point, in that it was solely a PPC build back when PPCs were OP. Being by far my best and PUG only was evidence that PPCs were OP in its day)(I retired this mech as a memorial to times past)

Most played: Misery, 1424 matches, 1.7 W/L, 3.45 K/D

[xCico]

Why fight and explain your KDR? Just post it dammit.

[DrSlamastika]

Member since 12 May 2013.
I played only PUG matches

my currently is this:

Edited by DrSlamastika, 27 November 2013 - 03:03 PM.