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[Windies]

Wu Jen, on 14 December 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

There is a limited number, it's the same number it took to unlock the project phoenix rewards. (Hint: It's this, 8, turned on it's side!)

Oh, so there's math and geometry involved... I was never good at those things....

[1 TS 1]

My feedback:

1) Unique modules? Seems PGI is wading into the pay to win space. Not cool.

2) I bought phoenix package (overload), and really only use use the shadowhawk. I'm not doing the same thing again.

3) How can we have the clan invasion when there's nothing for them to invade? (No CW).

I'll probably keep paying for premium time when I'm playing the game, since my time is more valuable to me than my money, but I'm done with the large purchases until there's real game content added (UI 2.0, new match types, CW). I was really close to dropping the game before I picked up the phoenix pack. We'll see what happens when my phoenix premium time runs out.

It seems like the art team and team building the mechs are hitting their milestones, but everyone else is missing.

Game Management needs a shakeup. No more telecommuting from home, no more allowing deadlines to slide. Work some overtime, programmers are salaried. Maybe pull a Jack Welch and fire the lowest 10% of manager and programmers.

It's incredible to compare what I've done at my job in a year to this...

[HiredGun]

Hope you don't mind Wu Jen, but I copied your Profile because I agree 100%. I would also incurage you all to do the same. If we plaster the forums with this maybe PGI would get the message. Weither they would care or not, is another story.

Edited by HiredGun, 14 December 2013 - 10:34 AM.

[Colonel Tequila]

Now i understand the random 'fatness' added to the catapult making it redundant for the release of the $210 Timberwolf.

Please add un-bundle'd Options and I for one will consider buying. I will laugh on Tuesday when PGI actually surprises us with UI2.0 alongside reinforcements and new map.

Christmas + PS4 + XBox One + Project Phoenix = me not buying anything from you without incentives.

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$500 on a gold skin - when i can just buy a golden boy....?!

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Early Bird Tiers.

$20 light
$20 medium
$20 heavy
$20 assault

$70 for the lot + 1 month premium

$10 for a gold skin for the weight class + free goodies.

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Raising to $30 per tier after a set time

$100-$110 bundle with + 1 month Premium.

This economic model would be more in line with your previous packages - and thus been highly more receptive by the community. Suggest you revise the financial model - reimburse those that have pledged - and I'm sure you will see a more favorable reaction from the community.

Other games companies have said sorry to there community - feels like you owe the fanbase not just an apology on this one.

Lastly I want details on my mech before i buy it - just like project phoenix - I don't jump in the bath without testing the water!

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Credit Card. Offline.

o7

[Kelvin Casing]

ShadowbaneX, on 14 December 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

That's possibly true, but I think that's more for the packages, not the gold mechs. They've got "limited quantity" written right beneath them. I don't really think they can get away with writing that on there and then selling an unlimited quantity of them.

Edit: one other point, PGI is the Developer. They're making the game, the models, the maps and so on. IGP, the Publisher, is publishing the game, ie selling the packages, marketing them and the like. PGI deserves some of the blame, but IGP deserves as much, perhaps more for the way all these packages are coming out.

1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 is a limited quantity.

[Lupus Aurelius]

Burke IV, on 14 December 2013 - 10:27 AM, said:

An atlas on a motorcycle in game might be worth $500

Only if it is a Harley lowrider with monkey-hanger handle bars, anything else would be too limp wristed...

Edited by Lupus Aurelius, 14 December 2013 - 10:36 AM.

[MechFrog1]

BadOptics, on 14 December 2013 - 10:27 AM, said:

There is no limit. PGI will sell as many as it can because they need the cash infusion. This isn't SC where they already have $20mil in the bank.

If they had a good estimate of how many they'll sell, they would actually make more money by limiting the number sold to just above the prediction. Then all the people who see that there are only 100 left! will buy instead of talking themselves out of it.

[King Arthur IV]

ShadowbaneX, on 14 December 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

Ok, you're really far off base here. Unless there's 1000 people out there with Pokemon-itis in that they're unable to do anything but get every mech available, this just ain't going to happen. Also, not that it says "limited quality." I'm thinking that there might be like 5-25 of the gold mechs, not 1000 of each. That means 40 to 200 of these mechs total...and 25 could certainly be a massive stretch, probably more like 5 to 10, which is more like $40,000.

If they then sell 250 of the Masakari packages that's another $60,000 which is $100,000 total. Then probably various other denominations of the packages, I'd guess that a million would be the absolute tops for what they're estimating to get out of this, probably more like half that. Granted, that's a very nice chunk of change, but not the small fortune that you're suggesting.



Not likely. They dropped it on a Friday for a reason: for people to have a weekend to read and post, so they can gather the data and see what the reaction is, and what the sales are. Then on Monday once they've got some actual data they'll address things as needed.

1000 die hard catch em all fans is already a very conservative guesstimate. (i personally know 2)

and 1000 of each mech would be nothing compared to the amount of players that still play.

even with 30,000 player base, 6000 of those gold mechs would still be rare as heck and hard to spot.

chance of making 4mill or 100k...... i know which i would take.

untill they give us some numbers on the "limited amount" im going to make my best conservative guess. and that is 1000 die hard fans + 6000 gold mechs = $4mil

[Rounin]

ShadowbaneX, on 14 December 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

They've got "limited quantity" written right beneath them. I don't really think they can get away with writing that on there and then selling an unlimited quantity of them.

As long as they don't reveal the supposed limit on them they can say whatever they want. Even if they sell 1.000.000 of them they can just say that the limit was 1.000.001. Easy.

[Burke IV]

Colonel Tequila, on 14 December 2013 - 10:33 AM, said:

Now i understand the random 'fatness' added to the catapult making it redundant for the release of the $210 Timberwolf.

Lol imagine the rage if the madcat comes with those extras they saddled the poor catapult with

[Outlaw]

Honestly I kinda hope that PGI uses the income to buy themselves out from the control of the publisher so they can actually make the game that they and the fans want... Cause honestly I sometimes wonder if PGI or IGP is running the show.

[Stuka42]

I dont usually post on the forums but I just had to after I saw the new clan (cash grab) package.

Thank gawd that I did not buy the Phoenix Package, I would be very unhappy right now. Also 240$ for a Timberwolf, wow, super expensive. For that price it had better have true double heat sinks and not explode from over heating when I fire all 4 erPPCs. And the targeting computer better arc shots into everyones mech.

Looks like a nasty cash grab to me. No thanks guys. Iv already spent too much on this game.

Edited by Stuka42, 14 December 2013 - 10:40 AM.

[Ngamok]

Haakon Valravn, on 13 December 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

I could see paying $50 for a "gold" 'Mech. Still expensive. But at least it doesn't cost more than an 870. Or roughly the same as a Glock 17.



$10 a 'Mech isn't bad for the 'Mechs you want. But it's not a very good deal for the 'Mechs you don't want. If you just want to rock the Warhawk, for instance, that isn't $10 a 'Mech (even if we go with your flawed assumption that a variant is an entirely new 'Mech. It isn't). It's $80 a 'Mech. Plus a bunch of 'Mechs you don't want and have no use for.

You can by a Warhawk with C-Bills, just saying.

[Barrett]

Drop the price tag to something agreeable please.
I ran out of builds with the phoenix package, I know the maps off by heart, GXP in the 100,000's and I still have not used my premium time package.

I'm bored.

Give us more weapons, maps and playstyles. Leave the mechs in the void for once.

[Icebergdx]

Chronojam, on 14 December 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

Quote this if you're down.

A pic is worth a thousand words. This pic should be worth a thousand PAGES of posts. FIX THE F-ING GAME FIRST, THEN ASK FOR MONEY FOR CLANS.

Unfortunately, there are a bunch of clan fanboi idiots out there that have already paid up, I bet... I love Mechwarrior and Battletech. I played the tabletop game, the original mechwarrior from the old IBM 286 days, and have played all of the later versions and variants, but I am done paying until they FIX THIS GAME!

[Wu Jen]

King Arthur IV, on 14 December 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

even with 30,000 player base, 6000 of those gold mechs would still be rare as heck and hard to spot.

LOL

[BadOptics]

ShadowbaneX, on 14 December 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

That's possibly true, but I think that's more for the packages, not the gold mechs. They've got "limited quantity" written right beneath them. I don't really think they can get away with writing that on there and then selling an unlimited quantity of them.

Edit: one other point, PGI is the Developer. They're making the game, the models, the maps and so on. IGP, the Publisher, is publishing the game, ie selling the packages, marketing them and the like. PGI deserves some of the blame, but IGP deserves as much, perhaps more for the way all these packages are coming out.

Did you pay attention to the Phoenix sale? Did you EVER see the number of packages sold? Nope, only that bar filling up which could have been anything. After someone buys their precious golden clan mech they aren't going to care how many digital mechs are left.

[stevemac]

Wanzerm23, on 14 December 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

I don't even play this game any more, but I still come to the website and forums all the time. Why?

Because of stuff like this. This is hilarious! It's like a textbook example of how NOT to make a F2P game.

I feel sorry for everyone that gave these guys money.

then why you here

[Not Bob]

I'm considering getting this, I like the mechs, they look awesome, and all the other jazz.

Everyone upset about CW/Clans/UI2.0, Keep in mind the clan mechs won't come until JUNE. First phase of CW is on target (From all indications that I've see/read) for JANUARY. So, while I get that you're all astonished that they announced the clan mechs now.

Also, think about what you're getting:for $240, 24 mechs and mech bays, 90 days of premium time, Signed Digital art (Woo? I think), and those other miscellaneous items.

Doing the math, that'd add up to 7200 (Mech bays) + 7500 (Premium time) = 14700MC which is around $75 (12000 and 3000 pack). That leaves the mechs at $6.875 with all the other goodies (Whatever they are).

So, its a good deal for us, as the MC price per mech will be higher, I'm sure. Also, its good for PGI as they can work on developing the things we want.

However, I do see that the initial cost is alot, but hey, guess what, you can upgrade your packs! So buy a smaller one fore now, and upgrade it when you get the money. Or you can do what I'm doing, and wait to see what these mechs will actually be before fully deciding.


Anyways, just my two cents. = D

[Sybreed]

Chronojam, on 14 December 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

Quote this if you're down.

Wow, that's just perfect.