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[Von Falkenstein]

No additional money before solid implementation of real CW and UI 2.0.

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[Kotzi]

Heffay, on 14 December 2013 - 05:37 AM, said:

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Well, you can't argue with logic like that (past the third grade)!

If you know sarcasm you can. But its tricky to understand i admit. Several hundred bucks for a Mechskin or where is the difference?

[1xLocustx1]

^ taken from Smurfys, well done Xiomburg well done

[CGB Behemoth]

Getting paranoid. Think PGI hates me.

[Grandmaster Ramrod]

You're insane. I hope for your sake U.I. 2.0 has no to few problems, and you meet your internal deadlines for community warfare. Giving yourselves a hard deadline (June 17) seems like a mistake given your track record.

I cannot view this as anything other than a blatant cash grab - I am amazed at your prices. It just comes across to me as you trying to milk your diehard fans for all they're worth before it all goes pear-shaped.

Once again, a decision has been made within PGI's walls that pushes me further and further away from this game, and does nothing to woo me back to a "full time" player.


As if anyone here cares.

[Heffay]

Sentinel373, on 14 December 2013 - 05:42 AM, said:

that depends on when you got that ship. if you bought that ship before early november then it has lifetime insurance. so you get a new one for free.

That's not quite true. Only certain backers from early on could get LTI. You could have them launder ships for you to get you an LTI version, but even back in July if you bought a ship through the normal store, you don't get insurance with it.

[Thunderbird Anthares]

Sentinel373, on 14 December 2013 - 05:42 AM, said:

that depends on when you got that ship. if you bought that ship before early november then it has lifetime insurance. so you get a new one for free.

ever heard of normal insurance?

[Skaulic]

Just because the real world is being ruined by greedy evil capitalist scum doesn't mean to say you should do it to MWO.

Meta content before more money grubbing.

[PhobiaOne]

Heffay, on 14 December 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

Keep in mind that $5000 Star Citizen ship can be blown out of the sky and you lose it *forever*.

You get Life Time Insurance so NO you don't lose it "forever". Learn what it is you are talking about before opening your mouth next time!

[Kotzi]

Because someone else does anything is no good excuse to do it youself.

[Kojin]

I went to bed when this was at page 7, so excuse me if anyone else thought of these:

How does buying the Clan mechs affect community warfare with regards to use by Merc and IS groups/players?
Do the hanging items/badges/whatevers use by IS/Mercs gain loyalties for the Clans even in fighting for the former?
How will rearm/repairs (if it is a part of CW) work for the Clan mechs if used (again) by IS/Merc players?

It's not going to make much sense if half the IS and Merc groups have the Clan mechs before the Clans even arrive...

[DrHat]

Kotzi, on 14 December 2013 - 05:33 AM, said:

They started it. Who is asking 500 bucks for a golden Mech? Seriously is this history repeating? If i had seriously put some money in this game i would be very upsetx100.

As I said, protesting the prices is fine..even I think it's over the top!

However; there is doing that, and then there is conjuring up frivolous and silly images of cigar-smoked rooms, with fat executives, pitching unscrupulous business ideas, with all the malicious- and patronising attitudes of business executives villains right out of a spiderman comic, as though that were really the case..I mean come on .

Edited by DrHat, 14 December 2013 - 05:58 AM.

[Grouch]

i am a Mini-Whale, bought Founders, Phoenix, and spent another 100$ in MC. I always defended PGI and justified the purchases. But with the last developer update on Dec. 2nd, i realized that i made a terrible mistake. I learned that i supported a developer studio that did spend most of its manpower for months on an UI-Update, which will be released sometimes in the future with still many bugs in it. This shows off the "competence" working at PGI flawlessly. I also learned that, after 1.5 years after CB, you still did not even START at working on CW. This was nothing else than an affidavit of means.

But now, after this affidavit of means, you expect me to dish out even more obscene amounts of money to support this incompetence? This is disgusting. After the last community update i was very disappointed. But now, i feel betrayed and offended.

And i am only talking about the normal Clan packages for 240$. The single golden Mechs for 500$ are simply the worst deal any gaming developer/publisher ever offered, and this even trumps EA with their mobile Tetris subscriptions, 100$ NfS World exclusive chars or their Theme Park rides for 60$. This is...i do the lack the proper words, so i let you guys speak.

D04S02B04, on 13 December 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

Seriously PGI,

The amount of monetisation on this IS OBSCENE. UNETHICAL.

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MuonNeutrino, on 13 December 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

Um, no.

First, holy {Scrap} those are some absurdly inflated prices. There's a problem when one of your intended customers takes one look at your offerings and the immediate reaction is 'no way in hell'. Not to mention that you're repeating that whole stupid thing of gating the mech you want behind a whole bunch that you don't.

Second, 'one prime and two standard variants'? That sounds like the clan mechs use the same variant system as the inner sphere ones, which is literally the laziest way I can think of to implement this. "Figuring out how to implement clan tech is hard, so eh, screw it?" No thanks. The clans are supposed to be *the clans*, which among other things means omnimechs.

Third, holy {Scrap} your game is nowhere near ready for this. Not even CLOSE. Put this back in the can for a year, because rushing this out now is going to be a frigging disaster. You said quite recently that you hadn't even decided how to handle clantech, and now you're promising the clan invasion in 6 months?

Fourth, putting such absurdly expensive packages up for sale before there's even a *single* scrap of information out there about how this whole thing is going to be implemented into the game is, frankly, scummy. You're going to have a whole lot of unhappy purchasers if your implementation of the clans turns out to be as bad as I'm suspecting right now.

But hey, at least you've still got your amazing artists and modelers and the mechs look good, so at least you've got that going for you.

This is all true.

Lysander Voidrunner, on 13 December 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

You, PGI, are fiddling with people's emotions and using their utter LOVE for the franchise to coerce money out of their pockets.

i agree, this is just disgusting.

Golfin Man, on 13 December 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

At least PGI has come clean and made it very clear that their one and only intent is to get as much money out of diehard and new BT fans alike before this game crashes and burns.

sad but true also

Lord Cubensis, on 13 December 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

You have not even produced a single thing you have promised players you were working on for months and now you are trying for a huge cash grab for the all so rare "clan mechs". You have got to be joking. This is fraudulent and scummy, I'd actually be ashamed of myself right now if I worked for PGI and had anything to do with this. You just released the phoenix package and have yet to release any kind of content in months that benefits players and has no monetary exchange.

Yes.

kuangmk11, on 13 December 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Renders or nothing.

your Sig is just beautiful

http://i.imgur.com/ysQ8jcf.gif

Edited by Grouch, 14 December 2013 - 05:54 AM.

[Thirdstar]

Heffay, on 14 December 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

That's not quite true. Only certain backers from early on could get LTI. You could have them launder ships for you to get you an LTI version, but even back in July if you bought a ship through the normal store, you don't get insurance with it.

Hey MarkkempHeffay, greeting from the RSI thread.

Standard Hull, Cargo and Equipment Insurance is available to everyone on release. There are also planned automated warnings before your insurance runs out. You will not be losing anything forever unless you were dropped on your head as a baby,

This has been an SC PSA. Enjoy.

Edited by Thirdstar, 14 December 2013 - 05:53 AM.

[Heffay]

Mrrsha, on 14 December 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

ever heard of normal insurance?

Yup. Hope you don't forget to insure your ships!

[ToxinTractor]

Its pretty expensive.. however it is really aimed at folks with jobs.. if you buy over the 6 month period in small bursts and just keep upgrading its NOT that bad..

However I would appreciate it if you guys could move away from these HUGE packs. If you want to do pre order thats cool. But maybe divide the packages up some more ya know? Or releasing more content per patch that is not just paint schemes and hero mechs

Also making more "Micro Transactions/better deals" would be better IMO then trying to **** out a huge pack. We just got done with project phoenix and already you guys throw this at us with out even the slightest bit of four shadowing.

[SwissChris1]

OneEyed Jack, on 14 December 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

[Toothless]

What a bunch of {Richard Cameron}. I've given up on PGI.

[Eramen]

I've quit this game (6 months ago) due to the lack of real content, especially CW. It annoyed me that I had to wait months at a time just to try out a new mech or map. It seems in hindsight that I was correct then in assuming that the money-grabbing would continue at the expense of actual game creation. It pains me so..

I've just read today about the Clan Invasion. It's jaw-droppingly deceitful and that's all that needs to be said. I'm not coming back (if ever) until this game has actually been fleshed out and PGI's actions match their words.

Edited by Eramen, 14 December 2013 - 05:56 AM.

[Mira Widowmaker]

*sigh* I predicted, that they would push out Clan Packages even before any features of Community Warfare would be implemented, because Clan Packages give them immediate cash flow.... I really hoped that I would be wrong on this one...