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[SmithMPBT]

Noooo hai yessuhhh nooooo yesssuhhh noooo.

[Zervziel]

Yeah sorry, PGI, but I'm not going to pay 120 dollars to get the one mech I want. They pulled this **** with Project Phoenix and they are doing it again! I'm not paying them a single freaking cent until they learn to not pull this ****. UI2 still isn't out and CW still hasn't even shown it's mug yet.

So no. I'm not buying a single clan mech from these morons. And if I ever see anyone running about in a gold mech, I'm gonna pump as much dakka as possible into you even if we're on the same team!

[Victor Morson]

My favorite thing about the Golden 'mechs is they don't even get a higher cbill boost than 30%. I mean LOL.

$500 for the Gold 'mech.
$250 something for the package so you can master said Golden 'mech

We're almost at the price of a computer.

PGI wants to be Star Citizen really badly, and that's cute, but they fail to understand that even though people pay ludicrous amounts of money for ships, it's based on funding a TRANSPARENT company trying to deliver a great promise; and the ships are for multiple people, in big serious fleets, not just somebody's "tool around in a shiny skin" variant.

This is a disaster.

PS: Giving Clan 'mechs to everyone with no faction divide is a huge disaster anyway, because it outdates all the IS 'mechs no matter what they do to nerf Clans. They don't know HOW to nerf Clans.

[Thorn Hallis]

Victor Morson, on 14 December 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

PS: Giving Clan 'mechs to everyone with no faction divide is a huge disaster anyway, because it outdates all the IS 'mechs no matter what they do to nerf Clans. They don't know HOW to nerf Clans.

That depends solely on the introduction of ClanTECH (or the lack of). As each package comes with 3 variants for each 'Mech we can allready assume that the Clanmechs wont be Omnis. So if PGI simply does not introduce Clanweapon and -equipment at all, nothing will be outdated.

[MWHawke]

The funny thing is.. they are asking you to fork out that much cash for... some pixels..

Edited by MWHawke, 14 December 2013 - 02:03 AM.

[Cannibal713]

Wow, people sure are getting bent out of shape about the price of pre-order clan mechs. Sure it is too expensive, and the gold skin is just ridiculous; but what the heck should you care. You can buy them for c-bills just like the phoenix mechs a few weeks later. There are people with money to burn on this, why not let PGI market to them. Apparently the Phoenix/Saber sales were good enough to warrant it. Many of us have been playing Battletech/Mechwarrior games since the 80s', I for one would like to see MWO do well and be financialy lucritive. I want to see this game and it's community grow and last a good long time, not fizzle like Multiplayer Battletech 3025 and other attempts at a Battletech/Mechwarrior online game. So before you start getting upset because you cant pre-order something you can get for free a few weeks later, remember how the world works. TANSTAAFL

[1Sascha]

Ed Steele, on 13 December 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

A Ferrari costs allot more than a Toyota Corolla, shouldn't you be on the Ferrari forum, complaining about that?

Riiiight.

Because a Ferrari is just an insanely expensive, gold-painted Corolla.





Granted:

"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it" (Publilius Syrus)

.. but with those prices, I guess that'll mean I won't be a purchaser. And I think I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Wanna make money off clan-mechs without pi$$ing off your player-base, PGI?

How about setting a price-point below the "OMFG, this is insane!!"-threshold?

How about offering "flexible" packages? Say, you'd have a sweet-spot package that gets you 2 predefined chassis' *plus* 2 chassis' of your choice? All that for $80 - 90?

I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

Selling a lot of anything for a low/medium price will almost always make you more money than selling small amounts at high prices.

Especially when we're talking about products that cost the developer/seller *nothing* to "produce" beyond the initial cost of creating them *once*.



S.

Edited by 1Sascha, 14 December 2013 - 02:27 AM.

[Jeremy Wade]

While the pricing structure may be 'reasonable in terms of it's face value cost being similar to the Founders, Overlord and Saber packages, the timing and the way this has just been dropped on the community with no announcement are what are really irritating people.

Yes, people have been asking for the Clans since day 1, but not like this. No one wants to see the Clans announced with a24 second video showing nothing, and a website asking you stump up to $240 now for something to be delivered by June next year and no other information.

Had the game been held in regard as being balanced and working properly, you could announce the Clans this way. As it is, the game lacks community warfare, UI 2.0 and many other features such as the decal system, re-introduction of knock down and additional game modes. On top of all that we are in the middle of what seems like a neverending cycle of poor balancing decisions, LRMS, ECM, Ghost heat, and on top of everything issues with the netcode and HSR still persist this long after the game went live.

That's why people are annoyed, the way this announcement has played out looks like PGI don't give a **** about fixing the game, thy just want to capitalise on the hype/demand that has built for clans by releasing this package just in time for Christmas.

Oh and one other thing. Variants? The Omnimechs in the package are variants? Why would you need a variant omnimech chassis? There aren't supposed to be any hardpoint restrictions on an omnimech chassis...

[Flying Judgement]

My Adder ohh my the Adder is there i dont know how to get there but ill gonna have my Adder
and the Ryoken\Stormcrow looks amazing.
Masakari is a beast
the price is normal but i gona wait till UI and some new game mode but i still gona have my nova

[Scryed]

Ed Steele, on 13 December 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

Quit whining about the cost and wait for the C bill variants, UI 2.0 and CW may even be done by then.

How will it be done when we still only have 2 gameplay modes, put the crack down and pick up some logic.

[Nacon]

It seem PGI doesn't care about MechWarrior anymore, just money grab.
Guess they really screwed up their development process that dug themselves a bigger hole.

Like everyone else said,
I refuse to pay for anything until they release UI 2.0 and CW.

Go ahead, say that I'm just whining, maybe I am... it's hardly the point. In business world, you must do what you were paid to do. Dancing around the term with "promises", "donations" and "goals" should be a crime if you're unable to explain why things can't be done. We're investors and backers, not just some mindless children. Talk to us, not just serve us this more of those desperate vanity sale deal.

Drop your pride and talk to us.

Edited by Nacon, 14 December 2013 - 02:55 AM.

[PlzDie]

I think the Clan packs are a final cash grab before the servers go down.

[RoThgar]

I am disappoint. Really, I am a clanner at heart, played Clan in BT CCG, played clan mechs in MW4, MW3, MW2 Mercs. But I am not sure I can justify putting more money into MWO.

Look at it this way. A major game releases with a sale price around £30 for PC, maybe more but we will stick with £30 because that is around $50. That game is a AAA title, it has all the content, multiplayer maybe even a single player. You get everything for $50 of your money. Great!

Now look at MWO, it is F2P so you can play the entire game for no money. Ok. But hey look, you can buy a really small portion of the content of the game for some real money. So a single hero mech is what roughly $15? Ok so that is one mech, what about these packages. $250 for 8 unique mechs and 16 mechs that will be available to everyone. Where do they come up with these prices? Why would I pay over four times the amount of a single other title I could buy for only a portion of the content of the game.

As you can see, I did buy into the phoenix package. This game has already had enough of my money in my eyes. If PGI and IGP were less greedy with the pricing they might actually make more money out of people. But as it stands I have paid more than I have for any other game and in that way I have supported MWO but as much as I want that Masakari I just can not justify it when I could buy 4 other games with the same amount of money.

Edited by RoThgar, 14 December 2013 - 04:09 AM.

[AltRight]

Price is not just high. It is TOO high. Methinks that they need to f--- dismiss their marketers.

[Rodel Ituralde]

Cannibal713, on 14 December 2013 - 02:17 AM, said:

Wow, people sure are getting bent out of shape about the price of pre-order clan mechs. Sure it is too expensive, and the gold skin is just ridiculous; but what the heck should you care. You can buy them for c-bills just like the phoenix mechs a few weeks later. There are people with money to burn on this, why not let PGI market to them. Apparently the Phoenix/Saber sales were good enough to warrant it. Many of us have been playing Battletech/Mechwarrior games since the 80s', I for one would like to see MWO do well and be financialy lucritive. I want to see this game and it's community grow and last a good long time, not fizzle like Multiplayer Battletech 3025 and other attempts at a Battletech/Mechwarrior online game. So before you start getting upset because you cant pre-order something you can get for free a few weeks later, remember how the world works. TANSTAAFL

Me on the other hand, I want to see this catastrophe die in the hands of PGI, so someone like Chris Roberts can take over and do this franchise the justice it deserves.

[Snitchkilla]

Stomp, on 13 December 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

I'd have expected you clanners to have brought up the "+2 normal variant" nonsense...


Why do you need additional variants for OMNIMECHS?

clans did have non omni mech variants (standard mechs)that is 100% cannon look it up (sarna.net)

[Krubarax]

The pricing is insane.
But I am honestly quite interested in those Medallions.
It would do loads for my immersion to have a shiney Ghost Bear medallion in my cockpit.

Other than that - I have not decided. I might sit this one out and go for the C-bill variants.
And I do not mean to sound like a ***** but... where is the Hellbringer?

Edit: NOOooooo! Where is the Mad Dog???

Edited by GB Krubarax, 14 December 2013 - 03:40 AM.

[Sruba4]

It's just sad that such bad game company will earn so many $ from mechwarrior fans They dont deserve even 1 cent, untill they make this game playable.

[WildeKarde]

That is seriously high priced, yes it's a lot of mechs but it's a lot when we don't know how they are going to be implemented.
- How are the weapons going to balance?
- How is the customisation going to be applied?
- Are the going to revamp MM for numbers per side? For example 10 vs 12
- Will there be a robust CW in place or still playing assault?
- Why do clans even earn cbills? Shouldn't they have a unique resource based on battle performance rather than IS pilots just buying the clan mechs when the appear for sale?
- Is the warhawk package more than dire wolf purely for money making?
- Are the sides going to be IS vs clan or will it mix up?

Prices are really high to buy and TBH without answers to the above I don't think I'd commit to the purchase. I don't feel like a dire wolf would hammer two atlas (fully custom) unless it was overpowered in the current meta. Even one on one might not win.

[Kain]

I find it interesting that everybody acts like they are surprised?

-Everybody knew these packages would come
-Everybody knew clan mechs would be expensive

And still people are shocked about the price?
The prices are just on the same price table as the IS variants

Don't get me wrong, the prices are very high, and the gold 500,- mech is really insane and stupid.

But this was just to be expected.
And a lot of people will buy a package, and you will have a lot of other people who will wait for the c-bills variants, it is just the same as with the other packages.

Nevertheless, designs are really nice, and I really would like to know the details about these mechs ..