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[Guido]

Agreed. That is one of the few promises that PGI has managed to avoid molesting and dumping into a back alley. They may have copped a feel, but there has been no true P2W.

Edited by Guido, 17 December 2013 - 05:26 PM.

[Whois9876]

25 ish pages skipped... PGI needs to eat and raise their family also.
For those who want to pay for the mechs, let them. For those who don't, wait.

Sorry if this has been said before.

[TibsVT]

Whois9876, on 17 December 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

25 ish pages skipped... PGI needs to eat and raise their family also.
For those who want to pay for the mechs, let them. For those who don't, wait.

Sorry if this has been said before.

Many times, but people would rather complain about it anyway. It's almost like they fail to realise the Omni's will be put in the game at some point for c-bills. Perhaps they really do fail to realise it...

[Joseph Mallan]

Ed Steele, on 16 December 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

You must not be playing the same MWO that I do, please tell me what non-free mechs/items are "required" to play MWO? Don't spread misinformation to casual forum goers and new players.

Not a single one. However my intent was to the fact that unlike in some other games, there is content that is Cash only. Neverwinter you could buy a package with a Drow and play it long before I could start with a Drow (free). Some of the Hero Mechs are unique configs that a non paying player cannot get. No matter how long I play, or how much in game currency I accrue, I cannot buy a Misery... Ever. At the time I stopped playing Neverwinter I could buy just about every class, race, or piece of equipment for no cash out of pocket. IF I was willing to grind for it. All Dyes for my equipment could even be purchased with in game cash... Can the same be said here?

It may be a small one but it is a distinction worth noting.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 18 December 2013 - 06:40 AM.

[Corralis]

Myc, on 17 December 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

The way PGI seems to be handling things so far, I would like to make a prediction: "Unique bonus module" for the golden mechs will be +30% damage. June, July and August will see a bunch of golden mechs owning the battlefield and the game will be dead in September.

And you call yourself a Founder...

Edited by Corralis, 18 December 2013 - 07:38 AM.

[Kooroush Azartash]

John Norad, on 16 December 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

10$ for one mech is too freaking much to begin with.

I'm not arguing that. I was simply stating that the Timberwolf does not cost $210. A Timberwolf configuration cost $10 with each additional configuration costing $10 each plus 18 other mechs/configurations at $10 a piece which equal $210. If someone goes this route to purchase a Timberwolf, they are not spending $210 for a Timberwolf. They are spending $210 for their Timberwolf plus all the other mechs they may or may not want. I was simply indicating that some of the comments being made were either misleading or incorrect, despite what the authors may have meant. I was stating that essentially people purchasing in this manner were buying a bundle, much as many buy internet which comes with "cable tv" and/or a land-line telephone, regardless if they use the other parts of the bundle.

[Tyberion]

I have some questions on my mind concerning the Clan Collection and Gold Khan Collection.

Should I create a separate account for my Clan Mechs? Or can I switch back and forward between IS and Clans from a single account?

Does a Gold Mech take the place of the Prime Variant in your collection or do you get it as well as the Prime and the 2 Variants?

*EDIT*

I got one of the questions answered by Russ on Twitter. If you get the Gold Khan Collection you get the Gold Mech of your choice AND the Prime Variant with the Operation Revival paint job along with the two variants.

Edited by Tyberion, 22 December 2013 - 03:09 PM.

[Corralis]

Tyberion, on 22 December 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have some questions on my mind concerning the Clan Collection and Gold Khan Collection.

Should I create a separate account for my Clan Mechs? Or can I switch back and forward between IS and Clans from a single account?

Does a Gold Mech take the place of the Prime Variant in your collection or do you get it as well as the Prime and the 2 Variants?

*EDIT*

I got one of the questions answered by Russ on Twitter. If you get the Gold Khan Collection you get the Gold Mech of your choice AND the Prime Variant with the Operation Revival paint job along with the two variants.

So this is just my opinion and not an answer but I would be very surprised if you need a separate account for your Clan mechs'. Now while I could technically understand if they stop people who have aligned to a house unit from using Clan Tech but then how would you stop a Merc Unit pilot? If they wanna use Clan Tech then no force in the world is gonna stop them.
No I think it would be a very bad business call for PGI to say Clan mechs' can only be used by those aligning themselves to the Clan factions.
So I would keep them all on the same account.

[Tuann]

I will be getting the 240$ pack.
I play clan, now that they become available, i will buy clan.

I do not feel like waiting until they become available for C-bills, but i want to have the mech of my choice ready to rock, no matter what configuration my dropping star needs.
so, it's a simple choice.

Are they overpriced,.. just slightly,..; it is inline with phoenix pack. EXCEPT : no bonus/incentive to buy early,... Phoenix pack had a 30 day premium bonus if bought early. The clan pack has no incentive to buy 6 months up ahead. So why would i rush to give them my money now,.. smarter to wait a bit and see what they actually implement of their promises,.. february is pretty close :-) and that was one of their promised fixed deadlines :-)
PGI talks the talk, but do they also walk the walk ?
Extra added benefits of the package : Warhorns,.. meh , what are they supposed to do ?? Extra modules,.. meh, What modules ? do you get the GXP included to use it, or is it just the c-bill mech/pilot lab item, but you still have to grind the GXP ?
(if it comes with instant GXP,... yes, then it becomes interesting) Will Warhorns be the same ? GXP needed ? or is it just an interesting sound to 'honk-honk-get-the-honk-out-of-my-way' ?
for me, it might be very interesting to hand over 240$ instead of buy-a-la-carte,... but,... I just do not know yet, due to lack of info.
Exclusive digital signed art ? eeum,.. a nice desktop wallpaper ? something to use as overlay in your mechbay to give it a distinct Clan feeling, based on the Caln of your choice ( That would be cool ! i really am less enthusiastic about a wall paper though -> waste of my money, so not added incentive)

What is the regular release schedule ? (how many months of pre-fun does the money buy us)

IF all the extra's in the pack are really worth it, having MC or GXP value, yes,.... i will insta buy. i like the game, i like the lore,..

for now, many unknowns,..; waiting for the FAQ to give us an idea.

Oh, and by all means,... make sure that the Decals and Color schemes of the Clan of your choice (or at least of the First Wave invading clans) are included in the pack !

I do not think CW needs to be implemented before Clan arrival. the only thing they need to do with Matchmaker is make sure that you always have either : Clan Vs IS drops, Clan Vs Clan or IS Vs IS,... pretty please do NOT get silly drops with Half of the team IS 1 pre made Clan Lance VS 12 Pugs with mixed Clan & IS mechs,...
If they do that, then they already have the basics of CW,... (feel free to expand to get house vs house drops too)
(just pray for an ounce of common sense in PGI developers ! )
And to add the cherry on top,... if we drop with Clan Mechs,..; change the name from Lance to Star,.. even when not implementing 5 mech stars,... it would just feel so much more real.
(and it is a small cosmetic detail)

Dear PGI,... help me to put my money into your "kind and needy" hands,... give INFO !

[Uncle Totty]

I'm thinking of getting the $55 A La Carte Timberwolf pack.

[artic phoenix]

I just happen to be extremely sad since the clan mechs are so superior to the founders mechs i already shelled out a couple hundred for.

[Shock Wave]

After reading so many thoughts and comments on clan mechs I've decided to throw my two cents worth in. I won't be buying any of the clan mechs for real money. It's not because they are too expensive, (which they are in my opinion), or because I don't like the state in which the game is currently in. I've decided not to purchase them with real cash because I feel I've spent enough money on this game. In addition it has already been stated by PGI that the clan mechs wont be any stronger or better than any other mech currently in the game. I don't feel that I have to have a Timber Wolf the first day it comes out, and when it finally is available for purchase with C-bills I know I will have more than enough to buy them at my leisure.

I'd also like to say to all the trolls, haters, and N.O.P.E people who post on these boards. PLEASE STOP! If you don't like the game speak with your wallet. It speaks far louder than ANY post you can create. As for you White Knights..... STOP CRUSADING FOR PGI ! It's OBVIOUS you enjoy the game. Please continue to fund this game by opening your wallets and buying everything to your hearts desire. Both of these groups drive the average player crazy. We come here to get information relevant to playing the game. Let us make up our own minds as to whether MWO is a game worth playing or not.

As for me, I enjoy the game. I am a Founder and an Overlord. I have purchased my fair share of MC and with them I have enough mech bays, premium time, GXP, Hero and standard mechs to last me a good long time. I appreciate what PGI has done and am looking forward to what they have in store for the franchise. If PGI is reading this I would like them to realize the frustration the community has with it's lack of progress, its missed deadlines, and the over monetization of this game. I would also like to stress to PGI that whoever came up with the prices for in game items got it wrong. Most, if not all, of the in game items are outside the realm of MICRO transactions.

I realize this thread was for thoughts on the clan packages, but I thought I'd throw all of my thoughts in at one time.

[D Sync]

Given the proposed changes to clan tech I doubt I will have any of them in my bays as the IS tech will be superior.. which is kinda odd. How can the clans invade if they can't win? The story-line we are playing to will suggest that the clans would take system after system.. yet when the game goes live with clan tech the clans will have very little chance of success.

No reason to even talk about the price, it isn't worth it.

[NocturnalBeast]

SuperUser013, on 28 January 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

Given the proposed changes to clan tech I doubt I will have any of them in my bays as the IS tech will be superior.. which is kinda odd. How can the clans invade if they can't win? The story-line we are playing to will suggest that the clans would take system after system.. yet when the game goes live with clan tech the clans will have very little chance of success.

No reason to even talk about the price, it isn't worth it.

But many will still flock to the clans.

[Myc]

My previous comment was meant to be silly, or at least an exaggeration. I do believe that this game is at least very lightly P2W. Not directly, but it definitely has a presence. Not paying a penny would put you at a severe disadvantage for months. Even outfitting a light mech with a full set of modules in mastered form would take a long time. Can anybody say how many matches? I would hate to even guess. An average of 3 modules at an average of 7500 GXP is 22500 GXP. That is a lot of matches with no GXP conversion. Yeah, you can grind for it, but I think that would be a longer grind than anything I have ever ground for in a video game. So far, hero mechs are the only thing you can only get for cash, but that even goes against what they said originally. That is why the custom module that can only be acquired for $500 scares me. Modules do make a difference. I don't think it will be entirely game breaking, but I don't like anyone having any kind of advantage that others cannot afford, no matter how small.

[lashropa]

I'm going full Warhawk. **** it. Won't be my first purchase or my last. Growing pains or no, I love that this is a living, breathing game and whose scope and features are limited only by the vision of the developers and the budget the players provide. No game I've played has ever been so ambitious, flexible and independant.

I'm convinced by the team's dedication--which I've seen with my own eyes-- that the things we will see in game over the next ten years will blow our ******* minds. As it is, this game looks & plays as well or better than any other game out there now. Period.

And it's free.

You losers are still complaining? You're still here? Whining about hitboxes? Whining about missed deadlines and promises that were never made? You've got to be kidding. Get a real job. Innovate if you dare. Make something no one's ever tried to make before. You'll learn deadlines aren't so easy to meet anymore.

PGI is a company of princes working tirelessly, and, aparantly thanklessly, solely to give a ray of mech-colored sunshine to anyone on the Earth who has a PC and an internet connection and believes BattleTech is Awesome. You, on the other hand do nothing but consume valuble resources and make everyone miserable each time you open your ******* mouth. You have such a rigetious tone when you ooze together into a festering mob, where does that come from? What part of your brain is missing that you aren't embarassed at your insistance in vicariously living through some bitchy voiced anthropomorphologic zeitgeist on a forum of a game that you apparantly don't even like to play and hopes fails?

The clan pack is the best deal ever. Mechwarrior is great. Shut up and take my money for life!

flame on, *******.
Jaguarily yours my assenters and dissenters
lashropa

[GalaxyBluestar]

^^^^^^
totally convincing

i'll by 3 packs now.

[NocturnalBeast]

lashropa, on 28 January 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

I'm going full Warhawk. **** it. Won't be my first purchase or my last. Growing pains or no, I love that this is a living, breathing game and whose scope and features are limited only by the vision of the developers and the budget the players provide. No game I've played has ever been so ambitious, flexible and independant.

I'm convinced by the team's dedication--which I've seen with my own eyes-- that the things we will see in game over the next ten years will blow our ******* minds. As it is, this game looks & plays as well or better than any other game out there now. Period.

And it's free.

You losers are still complaining? You're still here? Whining about hitboxes? Whining about missed deadlines and promises that were never made? You've got to be kidding. Get a real job. Innovate if you dare. Make something no one's ever tried to make before. You'll learn deadlines aren't so easy to meet anymore.

PGI is a company of princes working tirelessly, and, aparantly thanklessly, solely to give a ray of mech-colored sunshine to anyone on the Earth who has a PC and an internet connection and believes BattleTech is Awesome. You, on the other hand do nothing but consume valuble resources and make everyone miserable each time you open your ******* mouth. You have such a rigetious tone when you ooze together into a festering mob, where does that come from? What part of your brain is missing that you aren't embarassed at your insistance in vicariously living through some bitchy voiced anthropomorphologic zeitgeist on a forum of a game that you apparantly don't even like to play and hopes fails?

The clan pack is the best deal ever. Mechwarrior is great. Shut up and take my money for life!

flame on, *******.
Jaguarily yours my assenters and dissenters
lashropa

You are either the ultimate white knight, or the most sarcastic of trolls.

[lashropa]

White Knight White Knight!
Although I guess either title will get you a cool club somewhere...

[Pariah Devalis]

lashropa, on 28 January 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

I'm going full Warhawk. **** it. Won't be my first purchase or my last. Growing pains or no, I love that this is a living, breathing game and whose scope and features are limited only by the vision of the developers and the budget the players provide. No game I've played has ever been so ambitious, flexible and independant.

I'm convinced by the team's dedication--which I've seen with my own eyes-- that the things we will see in game over the next ten years will blow our ******* minds. As it is, this game looks & plays as well or better than any other game out there now. Period.

And it's free.

You losers are still complaining? You're still here? Whining about hitboxes? Whining about missed deadlines and promises that were never made? You've got to be kidding. Get a real job. Innovate if you dare. Make something no one's ever tried to make before. You'll learn deadlines aren't so easy to meet anymore.

PGI is a company of princes working tirelessly, and, aparantly thanklessly, solely to give a ray of mech-colored sunshine to anyone on the Earth who has a PC and an internet connection and believes BattleTech is Awesome. You, on the other hand do nothing but consume valuble resources and make everyone miserable each time you open your ******* mouth. You have such a rigetious tone when you ooze together into a festering mob, where does that come from? What part of your brain is missing that you aren't embarassed at your insistance in vicariously living through some bitchy voiced anthropomorphologic zeitgeist on a forum of a game that you apparantly don't even like to play and hopes fails?

The clan pack is the best deal ever. Mechwarrior is great. Shut up and take my money for life!

flame on, *******.
Jaguarily yours my assenters and dissenters
lashropa

Has hell frozen over? This Nova Cat agrees with that Jaguar. If only in spirit and not in the details. What the frak?

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 28 January 2014 - 05:45 PM.