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#961 Bigbacon

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 03:25 PM

yea, they really should all be tier 5...I really don't get why thy ended up 4.

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 05:28 PM

View PostBigbacon, on 19 October 2014 - 03:25 PM, said:

yea, they really should all be tier 5...I really don't get why thy ended up 4.


They carry as much firepower as a JR7-F, but on a locust chassis. They hit hard enough to not be relegated to tier5, mostly because of hardpoint count.

#963 Takashi Uchida

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 05:31 PM

FInally broke 4 kills in a Locust! Remember folks, the team doesn't win in spite of a Locust, it wins because of a Locust ;)

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 08:02 PM

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It's about damn time.

4 Machine guns, Small Pulse and BAP.

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 08:06 PM

View PostTakashi Uchida, on 19 October 2014 - 05:31 PM, said:

Remember folks, the team doesn't win in spite of a Locust, it wins because of a Locust ;)

I can corroborate. Boasting time: I just pulled this in a Basic'd Locust. That's right, Basic only.
People ignore this mech = this mech can hurt.

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Edit: Here's another, to prove it wasn't quite a fluke. xD On the downside, I sure am cooking this thing a lot. Might downgrade the engine for more heatsinks once I get Speed Tweak.
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Edited by Tarogato, 19 October 2014 - 09:28 PM.


#966 Takashi Uchida

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 08:13 PM

View PostTarogato, on 19 October 2014 - 08:06 PM, said:

I can corroborate. Boasting time: I just pulled this in a Basic'd Locust. That's right, Basic only.
People ignore this mech = this mech can hurt.


wow! that's nasty, I'd hate to run into you when that thing has more efficiencies unlocked. Had this game tonight in my elited 3M. Used 5 MLs and my recently bought level 5 mods for range and cooldown. Aiming for 800 damage next!

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#967 Takashi Uchida

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 08:29 PM

So I've just elited the 3 Locusts I have. Here's a report card. I'm not one to let numbers get in the way of fun but for this particular chassis I really want to raise them up. The 3M definitely has the most upside. I got off to a horrendous start but I am really starting to enjoy the mech. Since I really have no use for the double AMS, I might think of picking up the 1E for that 6th laser. It's been very tough and I still make a lot of dumb mistakes. Onward to mastery!

1V
K/D: 0.92
W/L: 1.28
Avg. Dmg: 184

3M
K/D: 0.60
W/L: 0.88
Avg Dmg: 265

3S
K/D: 1.00
W/L: 1.35
Avg Dmg: 262

Edited by Takashi Uchida, 19 October 2014 - 08:36 PM.


#968 Mobile Ordnance Platform

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:54 PM

you do team locust proud takashi

im also debating between 3M and 1E, you get a extra gun but you also overheat quicker :unsure:

#969 Takashi Uchida

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 11:34 PM

View PostGamerGirlGundam, on 19 October 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

you do team locust proud takashi

im also debating between 3M and 1E, you get a extra gun but you also overheat quicker :unsure:


The other diff is that the lasers are all arms, so if you get both blown off you got no weaps.. buuuut I don't think I've ever survived that long for that to happen lol :lol:

thx btw

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 11:43 PM

View PostTarogato, on 19 October 2014 - 08:06 PM, said:

People ignore this mech = this mech can hurt.


XD Sounds like me and my Dragon!

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 12:17 AM

View PostTakashi Uchida, on 19 October 2014 - 08:29 PM, said:

Since I really have no use for the double AMS, I might think of picking up the 1E for that 6th laser.

View PostGamerGirlGundam, on 19 October 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

im also debating between 3M and 1E, you get a extra gun but you also overheat quicker :unsure:

I'm thinking of getting the 3M just for the dual AMS alone. TheB33f's Point Blank AMS video hath inspyr'd me. The real question is what else to put on it... pair of MPlas, or a bunch of SLas maybe. Maybe two mediums and three smalls... hrmmm...

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 12:39 AM

View PostTarogato, on 20 October 2014 - 12:17 AM, said:

I'm thinking of getting the 3M just for the dual AMS alone. TheB33f's Point Blank AMS video hath inspyr'd me. The real question is what else to put on it... pair of MPlas, or a bunch of SLas maybe. Maybe two mediums and three smalls... hrmmm...


My standard load for a long time was 180 engine with 4 Spl or Ml in the arms with 2 tonns of AMS ammo and 2 AMS

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#973 Takashi Uchida

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 01:01 AM

I've only run 190 XL for all my Locust-ing so far. Man, am I really gonna spend another few milli for a 180 so I can fit moar guns?

well.. I've already poured a lot of cbills into these things lol might as well

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 01:06 AM

View PostTakashi Uchida, on 19 October 2014 - 08:29 PM, said:

So I've just elited the 3 Locusts I have. Here's a report card. I'm not one to let numbers get in the way of fun but for this particular chassis I really want to raise them up. The 3M definitely has the most upside. I got off to a horrendous start but I am really starting to enjoy the mech. Since I really have no use for the double AMS, I might think of picking up the 1E for that 6th laser. It's been very tough and I still make a lot of dumb mistakes. Onward to mastery!

1V
K/D: 0.92
W/L: 1.28
Avg. Dmg: 184

3M
K/D: 0.60
W/L: 0.88
Avg Dmg: 265

3S
K/D: 1.00
W/L: 1.35
Avg Dmg: 262

Hmm...
I have for 1v:
K/D: 0.73
W/L: 0.83
Avg Dmg: 101

And for 3M its more interesting - a have archived stats (before reading first post) and current (after i read it, plus from elite to master):
Before (playing as - scout-support):
K/D: 1.09
W/L: 1.62
Avg Dmg: 171

After:
K/D: 2.06
W/L: 1.2
Avg Dmg: 271

Average:
K/D: 1.85
W/L: 1.27
Avg Dmg: 251

well, team was better off when i was mostly scouting, but its much more fun for me now. But it maybe because before i had 42 games and after 156 - statistical error in "before" is much greater (plus game changed a lot).

Also this answers for me why 1v is tier 5 and 3m tier 4 - no matter how i play it, i get much better results (and suffer less). But since you do a lot better in 1v and 3s - maybe problem is with me, not mech.

#975 Takashi Uchida

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 01:27 AM

hm, that is very interesting.

I really did get off to a bad start with the 3M, I'm sure it's not the mech lol. I was 1 kill to 12 deaths and a sub 0.5 W/L at one point. I mentioned this before but I tend to play over-aggressively with that mech, which means higher death rate. I found that mech hardest to play before it was elited (makes sense, because of doubled heat efficiencies after, etc).

The 1V is a real dice-roll, mech. FIrst you gotta get lucky in that your allies help remove the enemy's armor. Then you gotta get lucky with crits to hit an ammo bin or big gun. I guess I've been lucky so far. I thought the Cicada 3C with 4 mg and a LPL/PPC was tough to play, but at least that laser can do actual damage lol.

You have a larger sample size, too (though even that might not be that important because the game is prone to dramatic changes). I'm only about 45 matches per each Locust.

Edited by Takashi Uchida, 20 October 2014 - 01:27 AM.


#976 Takashi Uchida

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 10:29 PM

I am become Death, Destroyer of Worlds..

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 10:33 PM

View PostTakashi Uchida, on 20 October 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

I am become Death, Destroyer of Worlds..


I bow to your superior Locust. -_-

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Posted 20 October 2014 - 11:15 PM

View PostTakashi Uchida, on 18 October 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

I think someone mentioned this on the Commando thread, but I've learned not to take a chance with dual gauss or AC40 at all. Like, not even entering their LOS. I mean, they are probably gonna miss, but you really don't know what kinda shot they are. I can say I've been one-shotted by either of those more than once.

Like, I'm not gonna take a chance of even being seen by a Jager or K2 unless I've scanned it or had a visual telling me what it was packing. (I would say Dire Whales too but if I think that applies to everyone and everything lol)

I take a perverse pleasure in running between them and their friends and hoping to get them to shoot each other. But hey, I'm a reckless risk-taker and a gambler at heart.

View PostBilaz, on 19 October 2014 - 05:13 AM, said:

Both 3m and 1e variants are tier4 - and i think thats fair, much more effective damage-wise they are.
And whole affair makes almost all IS mechs better, so meta is changing and there may be even less place for locusts in new meta. But its a matter of pessimism or optimism at this point imo - since no final list of changes and no idea how they would affect the game.


Screw the meta; I have a Locust.

#979 Takashi Uchida

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 02:25 AM

View PostTim East, on 20 October 2014 - 11:15 PM, said:

I take a perverse pleasure in running between them and their friends and hoping to get them to shoot each other. But hey, I'm a reckless risk-taker and a gambler at heart.


Occasionally one of those big bullets will tear off an arm, and I'm just thinkin.. wow, I could have been blown into next week right there..

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 03:02 AM

I can't help but think this is going to plummet once my sample size starts getting larger.

LCT-1E - 34 matches
K/D: 1.24
W/L: 0.89
Dmg/match: 248.21

I was going to buy my first assault mech next, but maybe I'll just master up some Locusts since I only have two mechbays to spare. :D

Also, I guess I need to update my siggy. Gives me an excuse to clean it up. =]





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