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[eFTy]

Shadey99, on 14 May 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

Actually... I'd like it if normal vision mode it was invisible, but alternate vision modes would show the Tag beam... 'Thermal' mode already highlights laser beams (Tag should be dimmer though), If night vision is actually light amplification then it should pick up lasers as well...

Usually I take TAG on my LRM boats though to null ECM, not a dedicated scout. Dedicated scouts just suffer to much in PUG games. Even team games with say a lance of Dedicated LRM boats can be questionable against a good group. Which is why LRMs are not considered good in the first place...

TAG being highly visible in Night vision makes sense. It being visible in Heat vision, not so much. I still think all we should get is an indicator icon like ECM and never see any in-game effect (except in night vision). Until they make this change, TAG will only be used by LRM boats and the occasional newbie scout.

loopala, on 14 May 2015 - 07:58 AM, said:

... spider decided to bug out ...

Nice pun.

That Dawg, on 14 May 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

Rebought some I had only done the basic on.
During that time, bought a PB.
and...the PB is the least effective of all of them.
tried 'all' the builds, and theres a couple that are easily twice the fun, and twice the stats vs. the PB.
Settled finally on the 4smalls/2mg's
all have the same engine, all have close to the same rated firepower and the peanut butter is clearly the weakest among them.
Am I alone in thinking a locust with ecm would dominate the field of all variants?
To find rather the opposite?
Same play style, same same. 4 locusts: PB has about a hundred battles in it, and comparatively speaking, its the lowest one stat wise.

Probably a combination of low range and high threat rating (because ECM). Try switching to 4x ML and hiding behind the fatties. Pop out, shoot, hide again.

[IraqiWalker]

Update: 613 1 kill 10 assists. Second highest in the entire match, by a good margin (the no.1 was a 718 damage warhawk)

[That Dawg]

I'll try the 4ML, thanks efty- take any of the other locusts, often top 3 match score, maybe not damage, but match score

and what is this weekend about? locusts?

nvmnd, just checked announcements.............interesting..........
crap, was hoping to win that 3V, might have to buy it...I could use two, right?

[IraqiWalker]

That Dawg, on 15 May 2015 - 02:25 AM, said:

I'll try the 4ML, thanks efty- take any of the other locusts, often top 3 match score, maybe not damage, but match score

and what is this weekend about? locusts?

nvmnd, just checked announcements.............interesting..........
crap, was hoping to win that 3V, might have to buy it...I could use two, right?

I think for the phoenix special challenge they want the (P) variant, but I don't know for sure. (They wanted the (F)ounder mechs for the Founder challenge, right?)

[That Dawg]

stupid question, are all locust V's phoenix mechs? or only the ones with (P) behind them?
trying to find a list of all those mechs to see if I have one under tarps in my mech bay

whoa, ninja post! IW, slipped on in between my edits, lol

makes sense however

[That Dawg]

Hmmmmmmmm.....two dollars...........hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I wonder if buying one, would cripple the odds I'd win one........hmmmmmmm
toooooooooooooooooooooo dolla..............

let me check my math$...hmmm, visual clue for left brain reference



Equals ONE locust...hmmmmmmmmm

[Ovion]

That Dawg, on 14 May 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

Rebought some I had only done the basic on.
During that time, bought a PB.
and...the PB is the least effective of all of them.
tried 'all' the builds, and theres a couple that are easily twice the fun, and twice the stats vs. the PB.
Settled finally on the 4smalls/2mg's
all have the same engine, all have close to the same rated firepower and the peanut butter is clearly the weakest among them.
Am I alone in thinking a locust with ecm would dominate the field of all variants?
To find rather the opposite?
Same play style, same same. 4 locusts: PB has about a hundred battles in it, and comparatively speaking, its the lowest one stat wise.

It rather needs Speed Tweak.

Personally, I run mine 4SPL, 2MG and it does pretty damn well.

4SL, 2MG is pretty damn solid too.

These might help:
Common Pirates' Bane Builds:
4SL, 2MG, ECM PIRATES' BANE
4SPL, 2MG, ECM PIRATES' BANE
4SPL, ECM PIRATES' BANE
2SPL, 2MPL, ECM PIRATES' BANE (XL170)
2SPL, 2MPL PIRATES' BANE
4MPL PIRATES' BANE
Uncommon Pirates' Bane Builds:
AC2 PIRATES' BANE
2SL, AC2 PIRATES' BANE (XL170)
AC2 PIRATES' BANE (XL170)
2ML, 2MPL, ECM PIRATES' BANE (XL180
3MPL, ECM PIRATES' BANE (XL180)

As to the 3V, Youv'e got a roughly 1 in 10-11 chance of winning one.
Those are some pretty good odds, so I'd wait if you haven't already.

[jper4]

i don;t think i'll be doing well in the 1V for the event, it's always been my weakest locust since i have lousy eyesight and ERLL (or any sort of sniping for that matter) doesn;t work out too well for me. then again i'm bad with all the other phoenix mechs too so...

Edited by Tanar, 15 May 2015 - 07:52 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

Tanar, on 15 May 2015 - 07:51 AM, said:

i don;t think i'll be doing well in the 1V for the event, it's always been my weakest locust since i have lousy eyesight and ERLL (or any sort of sniping for that matter) doesn;t work out too well for me. then again i'm bad with all the other phoenix mechs too so...

Why not go MPL+4MGs?

[Ovion]

Tanar, on 15 May 2015 - 07:51 AM, said:

i don;t think i'll be doing well in the 1V for the event, it's always been my weakest locust since i have lousy eyesight and ERLL (or any sort of sniping for that matter) doesn;t work out too well for me. then again i'm bad with all the other phoenix mechs too so...

Honestly, I don't snipe with mine anyway.

I play it like I normally would, sweeping in, the ERLL lets me do 1-2 extra shots per pass as I put my MGs into them aswell.

Alt is the MPL+4MG, rather than ERLL+2MG.
I like both (have 2 1V's to run both actually)

Edited by Ovion, 15 May 2015 - 07:58 AM.

[Ricter]

Can someone show me the standard -1V build with ELL+2MG please? I don't see it in the last half-dozen pages.

[IraqiWalker]

Ricter, on 15 May 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:

Can someone show me the standard -1V build with ELL+2MG please? I don't see it in the last half-dozen pages.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

LCT-1V

[xMintaka]

Ricter, on 15 May 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:

Can someone show me the standard -1V build with ELL+2MG please? I don't see it in the last half-dozen pages.

My take on it

Although I'm using just an ERLL for the event, since it's not heat neutral (despite what the in game and smurfy mechlabs say). Managed to overheat doing this:

Disregard my message in chat, messed up the time zones in my head.

Edited by Lunatech, 15 May 2015 - 08:44 AM.

[Scout Derek]

"Pew Pew" - Timberwolf

"Pew Zoom" - Locust

[Ricter]

Okay, so that's what confused me. In the first build, why not drop armor and a heat sink for a better engine and 2x MG? You're saving only a half-ton and losing 10 KPH out of the deal.

In other words, it seems strange to me that the build isn't ELL + 4 MG.

Also, spending the cash on DHS seems wasteful.

And thanks.

Edited by Ricter, 15 May 2015 - 08:53 AM.

[Ovion]

I favour LCT-1V

Yes, the DHS are worth it.
The ERLL fires fast enough and hot enough to warrant it.

[3xnihilo]

Ovion, on 15 May 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

I favour LCT-1V

Yes, the DHS are worth it.
The ERLL fires fast enough and hot enough to warrant it.

Quoted for truth. I tried running shs on the 1v with an erll and it was miserable.

[Ricter]

Blah, I need to get out of tabletop mode.

[Ovion]

Ricter, on 15 May 2015 - 09:39 AM, said:

Blah, I need to get out of tabletop mode.

I wish I had someone to actually play with so I could get back into tabletop mode.

But yeah, MWO rules - almost everything benefits from DHS.
The internal heatsinks on the engine are all 'True Doubles' that provide 2x dissipation.
All external provide 1.4x disspation.

This means that on a 250+, having just DHS equates to 20SHS, which covers a LOT, and is effectively mandatory.

The Locust 1V is actually one of the few that didn't need it, and still doesn't bar the ERLL build (which is why I have 2 - it was less than 2mil to get the second and kit it out and save me moving more than an engine).

And really, there's some special Urbanmech builds that want SHS, and a couple of other gimmicky bits, but otherwise, it's generally better to remove Ferro armour for space even losing the marginal weight saving.

Also, almost everything wants Endosteel, very little won't benefit from it, mostly assaults that run out of slots before weight anyway.
Then throw in tiny cockpit boxes and removing head armour becomes a viable strategy.

Enjoy~

[jper4]

IraqiWalker, on 15 May 2015 - 07:56 AM, said:

Why not go MPL+4MGs?

i did that for a while actually but just seemed kinda blah