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[AlmightyAeng]

Good morning everyone,

Twitter has informed us today that PGI will not be supporting lobbies or a search function for the upcoming Private Matches on the 29th. While unfortunate, it's not unexpected.

I want to give a bump to 12Bravo and Tenbatsu.

These guys have set up a third-party lobby system reminiscent of the MSN Gaming Zone we had for MW3 & 4.

I'd highly recommend giving it a look...I know that once private matches come out I'll likely be on these lobbies to see how well/how many groups are on it and are looking for matches.

Check out their site directly. http://mwolobby.com/

[Joseph Mallan]

Can you link the tweet?

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 02 April 2014 - 07:59 AM.

[AlmightyAeng]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 April 2014 - 07:59 AM, said:

Can you link the tweet?

Indeed I can. OP edited and linked.

[Joseph Mallan]

Boo ya!

Also just found the depressing news down in Meta...

Why do we have a game forum when the devs only seem to release pertinent info everywhere BUT here?

[Buckminster]

I dunno, that list of tweets seemed to be Roadbeer trolling Russ more than anything. All Russ said was that there'd be no lobby on April 29th and that it'd probably be added later.

[Roadbeer]

Buckminster, on 02 April 2014 - 08:15 AM, said:

I dunno, that list of tweets seemed to be Roadbeer trolling Russ more than anything. All Russ said was that there'd be no lobby on April 29th and that it'd probably be added later.

I'm sorry, pointing out fundamental flaws in a system that is sold as having a lobby that doesn't have a lobby is trolling?

In the same tweet thread, he says that focus will now be on CW, so it's not something likely to be seen before "CW"

And if I was wrong, don't you think he'd point that out?

Edited by Roadbeer, 02 April 2014 - 08:18 AM.

[Rebas Kradd]

Another feature that PGI cleverly outsources to the community by simply not doing it.

Edited by Rebas Kradd, 02 April 2014 - 08:53 AM.

[AlmightyAeng]

Buckminster, on 02 April 2014 - 08:15 AM, said:

I dunno, that list of tweets seemed to be Roadbeer trolling Russ more than anything. All Russ said was that there'd be no lobby on April 29th and that it'd probably be added later.

Either way, we won't have a lobby when it's live, and there's a 3rd party solution. I care about making an incomplete system semi-functional, that's all.

I'll bash PGI in other threads, just hoping THIS one can be useful for groups looking for group play.


Edited: I had my facts wrong and missed a tweet. Eventually, Soon™, after CW. *shrug*

Edited by Ghost Badger, 02 April 2014 - 08:27 AM.

[Prezimonto]

Seriously, even added later, seems to totally miss the point of having the system.

How do you get into a bigger game without being part of a large community? (which also has close to zero support)

I swear it's like they loath player run groups at any level but hyper competitive. Either solo, or form a huge group and be super seriously about team play. No middle ground, in a team game.

Edited by Prezimonto, 02 April 2014 - 08:20 AM.

[Solahma]

What I got from that tweet is that we won't have the feature on April 29th. Doesn't mean it won't be added later as Buckminster said.

Who knows when or what they would give us though...

Not saying I don't like it being absent... makes no sense NOT to have it...

Edited by Solahma, 02 April 2014 - 08:22 AM.

[Chemie]

Like our existing MM, key to success will be a lot of people using this 3rd party feature. If every time you pull a 8 or 12 man together and your team leader drop in there and sees lots of options, then we have something. If it is mostly empty, it will stay that way. Critical mass is ...well...critical. The problem with current MM is that most of the time, the queue is empty or you end up with some crazy 500 ton versus 1000 ton mismatch.

Edited by Chemie, 02 April 2014 - 08:22 AM.

[WarHippy]

Ghost Badger, on 02 April 2014 - 07:42 AM, said:

Good morning everyone,

Twitter has informed us today that PGI will not be supporting lobbies or a search function for the upcoming Private Matches. While unfortunate, it's not unexpected.

I want to give a bump to 12Bravo and Tenbatsu.

These guys have set up a third-party lobby system reminiscent of the MSN Gaming Zone we had for MW3 & 4.

I'd highly recommend giving it a look...I know that once private matches come out I'll likely be on these lobbies to see how well/how many groups are on it and are looking for matches.

Check out their site directly. http://mwolobby.com/

While I appreciate the work those guys have done to make our own lobbies I really wish nobody would hear about it for fear PGI will just use it as an excuse not to make one because someone else did it for them.

[AlmightyAeng]

WarHippy, on 02 April 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

While I appreciate the work those guys have done to make our own lobbies I really wish nobody would hear about it for fear PGI will just use it as an excuse not to make one because someone else did it for them.

Your faith that they were considering it anyway overwhelms me. Shrug. They're finally implementing "Smurfy's," even though "Smurfy's" already exists. Some precedent

[Bagheera]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 April 2014 - 08:07 AM, said:

Boo ya!

Also just found the depressing news down in Meta...

Why do we have a game forum when the devs only seem to release pertinent info everywhere BUT here?

Welcome to the island.

[WarHippy]

Solahma, on 02 April 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

What I got from that tweet is that we won't have the feature on April 29th. Doesn't mean it won't be added later as Buckminster said.

Who knows when or what they would give us though...

Not saying I don't like it being absent... makes no sense NOT to have it...

Seeing as he said CW first I wouldn't expect to see lobbies before next year if ever.

[Chemie]

WarHippy, on 02 April 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

While I appreciate the work those guys have done to make our own lobbies I really wish nobody would hear about it for fear PGI will just use it as an excuse not to make one because someone else did it for them.

If it works, who cares? I don't care if PGI drops this if every time I go in there, there are a bunch of good teams to play with.

[Prezimonto]

It's not even like the idea of lobbies to find games are new, they've been a regular feature in games since the 1990's at least, and I can't think of a game today that offers private matches that doesn't also have a lobby where you can search open (non-locked) games.

Why would you even begin coding the system without that feature at it's core, for matchmaking?

This is just one more reason, I'm NOT going to be able to interest my friends who have left the game, as it would be the primary way we'd being playing.... 5 to 6 people don't make a team, but without lobbies, we have to go to third part to find matches? Utter BS, you might as well skip the whole feature if it's going to be missing it's main utility.

SO this really means that private matches are for 12man team practice. Is the private lobby really just a bone thrown to competitive players?

Edited by Prezimonto, 02 April 2014 - 08:28 AM.

[WarHippy]

Ghost Badger, on 02 April 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

Your faith that they were considering it anyway overwhelms me. Shrug. They're finally implementing "Smurfy's," even though "Smurfy's" already exists. Some precedent

I had no faith that they would I just don't want to give them any excuses that some poor sap might believe.

[Buckminster]

Roadbeer, on 02 April 2014 - 08:17 AM, said:

I'm sorry, pointing out fundamental flaws in a system that is sold as having a lobby that doesn't have a lobby is trolling?

In the same tweet thread, he says that focus will now be on CW, so it's not something likely to be seen before "CW"

And if I was wrong, don't you think he'd point that out?

It was the "That would still be a 'browser' or a 'lobby'. Groups and people with friends are not a priority to PGI" tweet that I considered to be trolly, not pointing out the flaws in a lobbyless private match system.

Ghost Badger, on 02 April 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

That second part, adding later, is NOT addressed. Either way, we won't have a lobby when it's live, and there's a 3rd party solution. I care about making an incomplete system semi-functional, that's all.

I'll bash PGI in other threads, just hoping THIS one can be useful for groups looking for group play.

He does say that it will be added later - it's in his first tweet.

That being said, I'm not trying to be a PGI white knight or trash people that are doing a 3rd party workaround to a flaw in PGI's system. Just saying that some people jump the gun a little too quickly.

Edited by Buckminster, 02 April 2014 - 08:26 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

WarHippy, on 02 April 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

While I appreciate the work those guys have done to make our own lobbies I really wish nobody would hear about it for fear PGI will just use it as an excuse not to make one because someone else did it for them.

I have no idea what you are TeamSpeaking of?