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[Roadbeer]

Deathlike, on 24 April 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

I love how Heffay hasn't actually seen the Private Match screen. How is one supposed to discuss stuff that they haven't tried out?

That is kinda important to "knowing" what you are talking about.

Even having not used the PM screen. Just having read the CC post that spawned this very thread clearly states that 2-12 queue isn't coming anytime soon, and to play with less than 12 people and more than 3 requires a Pay to Use system that provides no benefits for using it outside furious epeen stroking.

So we have to assume either a reading comprehension issue, or he's being terminally obtuse.

[Iqfish]

[Heffay]

Roland, on 24 April 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Ah, no, because you won't actually have a game then. You'll have your friends in a private match, by themselves.

Wow, I've seen some rather creative rebranding of definitions, but "that's not a game, that's a match" has got to be the biggest stretch ever.

"I can't play with exactly the number of friends I want to because even though I can, I say I can't!"

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 24 April 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

Wow, I've seen some rather creative rebranding of definitions, but "that's not a game, that's a match" has got to be the biggest stretch ever.

"I can't play with exactly the number of friends I want to because even though I can, I say I can't!"

ROFL, OMG, he actually doesn't know what he's talking about.

Heffay, I want you to clearly spell out how a group of >4 and less than 12 finds a match under the Launch Module system

[Imperius]

Roadbeer, on 24 April 2014 - 02:57 PM, said:

ROFL, OMG, he actually doesn't know what he's talking about.

Heffay, I want you to clearly spell out how a group of >4 and less than 12 finds a match under the Launch Module system

This will be good...

[Heffay]

Roadbeer, on 24 April 2014 - 02:57 PM, said:

ROFL, OMG, he actually doesn't know what he's talking about.

Heffay, I want you to clearly spell out how a group of >4 and less than 12 finds a match under the Launch Module system

They create their own using the premium private match option.

Seriously, there is a whole command post about it. People are discussing 1v1 games they are currently playing on the test server.

[Roland]

Heffay, on 24 April 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

Wow, I've seen some rather creative rebranding of definitions, but "that's not a game, that's a match" has got to be the biggest stretch ever.

"I can't play with exactly the number of friends I want to because even though I can, I say I can't!"

Ok, let's just clarify the definition then. I had thought that it was obvious enough to go without explicitly defining it, but apparently that is not the case.

Roadbeer has 5 friends online, and wants to play in a match as currently defined in the game. That is, a 12v12 match.

Explain the sequence of actions that he must take to make such a thing happen.


To help you out, I can lay out the sequence of events required to play in a match back in closed beta: (although of course the match was 8v8 then)

1) Invite your 5 friends into your group.
2) Press launch

The game then put your team of 6 guys into a full game with other players.

What is the sequence of events for him to achieve the same result under the new system?

It seems kind of weird that you are squirming so much when asked to provide such a simple description. Given that you believe the system to provide a good solution to this case, it shouldn't be embarrassing to describe the steps required by the user.

I'd only expect to see you squirm like this if you recognized that the set of steps required is in fact cumbersome, and that describing them would make the solution appear inadequate. But you don't believe it's inadequate, so it seems like describing it in detail should be easy for you.

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 24 April 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

They create their own using the premium private match option.

Seriously, there is a whole command post about it. People are discussing 1v1 games they are currently playing on the test server.

I said step by step. I have 4 friends on and we want to drop (making 5 people), Wednesday night (once LM is live), tell me how we do it. Step by step.

Edited by Roadbeer, 24 April 2014 - 03:06 PM.

[Imperius]

He can't... Or is attempting to troll. (I hope he really isn't that special)

[Agent of Change]

Iqfish, on 24 April 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

No he just prove you wrong and you cannot accept that so you start insulting again.

I'm just going to say, that when you start using "Vassago Rain said" as the basis for any argument* you make two things should immediately occur to you:

1. Not whether you are wrong but how wrong you are.
2. An evaluation of when you started making really poor logical choices

^{*exception: were you to say VAssago Rain said... and he was wrong i almost bust a lung laughing you would be correct everytime.}

[BLOOD WOLF]

heffay; your tolling these gents

[Imperius]

BLOOD WOLF, on 24 April 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

heffay; your tolling these gents

We already know about your extra chromosome.

[Craig Steele]

Roadbeer, on 24 April 2014 - 03:04 PM, said:

I said step by step. I have 4 friends on and we want to drop (making 5 people), Wednesday night (once LM is live), tell me how we do it. Step by step.

For someone who laments people being obtuse and argumentative you sure do appear to be well qualified on conducting yourself in the same manner.

You know that under the Launch Module you can indeed play with a group of between 5 - 11 players.

You know that only one person (the group leader) needs to have Premium Time activated to use the function. It is not "Pay to Play". There is no direct cost for every player.

So don't imply that you cannot "play with my friends" of 4+. Fact is you can and you have acknowledged this countless times.

What you don't like is the structure / criteria around the function. You don't like that you have to seek additional players to make 12 (although you can quite feasible play x vs x if you wanted).

You don't like that you have to find an opponent through a third party app, you want to be able to press launch and MM finds your opponents.

You don't like that there is no C-Bills or in game rewards given for the match (not withstanding that it may or may not be an artificial match designed for farming, like someone playing against his Alt account)

You want to play the game with all the advantages of Teamwork, Comms, Synchronised Loadouts and you have said that you're quite happy to play this game style against opponents without those advantages (indeed you even started a thread coaching other people on how to work the system so more people could employ similar tactics). You don't care who your opponent is as long as they are weaker than your team.

We all know what you want, but you denying that you can't have some of what you want is just mis leading.

The game doesn't provide you the full package of your desires under the Launch Package, we all get that. It's hardly the first time that a game has not met every individuals desire.

Your quite comfortable using third party apps like TS now when it gives you an in game advantage, but if a third party app only provides equality you're demanding PGI fixes it.

But stop screwing over everyone else and being obnoxious just because you can't get your way. Your past service as a "White Knight" doesn't give you any extra entitlement to any one else that has similar concerns.

Man up.

[Deathlike]

BLOOD WOLF, on 24 April 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

heffay; your tolling these gents

He's doing a terrible job, since he doesn't understand and isn't demonstrating proof of reality... kinda like a particular thread you wrote.

[Roland]

Hey Craig, since heffay ran off, maybe you would like to lay out the use case for a person playing with 5 of their friends. What is the step by step process for him to play?

[Craig Steele]

Roland, on 24 April 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

Hey Craig, since heffay ran off, maybe you would like to lay out the use case for a person playing with 5 of their friends. What is the step by step process for him to play?

Couldn't really say, don't have Heffays apparent knowledge on the system.

All I know is that they said it is a function of the Launch Module due on 29th (I'm sure you can read the official blurb as well as I can). I'll try it when it gets here and let you know.

[Roadbeer]

Craig Steele, on 24 April 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

But stop screwing over everyone else and being obnoxious just because you can't get your way.

[Citation needed]

Craig Steele, on 24 April 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Your past service as a "White Knight" doesn't give you any extra entitlement to any one else that has similar concerns.

Nope, being a paying customer who made purchases under, lets say, less than ingenuous, assurances does.

I ignored the rest because I've found that I can pretty much skip to your last couple sentences to get your gist and the rest is just bullshit while trying to sound like you know what your talking about.

[Roland]

Heffay doesn't have any knowledge of the system.

But you should be able to lay out the sequence of steps that must be taken to play a match with 5 other friends using the new system. You claim it can be done, so just lay out how the players would go about doing it.

No special knowledge is required. Just explain the process by which a player would do it, to the best of your understanding.

[Deathlike]

Roland, on 24 April 2014 - 04:46 PM, said:

Heffay doesn't have any knowledge of the system.

But you should be able to lay out the sequence of steps that must be taken to play a match with 5 other friends using the new system. You claim it can be done, so just lay out how the players would go about doing it.

No special knowledge is required. Just explain the process by which a player would do it, to the best of your understanding.

12 minutes left, and counting!

[Roadbeer]

Deathlike, on 24 April 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

12 minutes left, and counting!

it was extended to 10P Pacific

Edit:
Yup
http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3321434

Edited by Roadbeer, 24 April 2014 - 04:49 PM.