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[Sandpit]

As I said, factual.

You also left out the other part of that statement sir. The part where I state

Sandpit, on 23 April 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

Is it enough of a drop in profits to affect PGI's bottom line? No idea, but it's still less money than they WOULD earn by simply following through with what they advertised to paying customers more often.

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

And maybe their decisions caused 10 times as many people to open their wallets in support. You're grasping at straws.

No sir, jsut because you feel it isn't significant does NOT mean it's not a factual statement.

If you're going to hang on a single statement and try to take it out of context guys do it with someone who DOES make hyperbole statements and stop trying to make mine out of context

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

While he's at it, can he cite the source where he says Paul hates groups because the Goons killed him?

Meanwhile, you can cite the source where they ever said that large group play will actually be returning to the game

[Heffay]

Sandpit, on 23 April 2014 - 01:50 PM, said:

As I said, factual.

You also left out the other part of that statement sir. The part where I state

Again, if their decisions cause more people to pony up cash than your small island of misfits generate, their decisions are financially *better* for the game than listening to you.

It's like the people who got upset about the Overlord packages. They said thousands of people asked for refunds as a result of PGI's decisions. At the end of the day, the number was significantly less than 300.

Don't believe your own rhetoric. That's a rather significant mistake.

Roadbeer, on 23 April 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Meanwhile, you can cite the source where they ever said that large group play will actually be returning to the game

Weird, that isn't what I said at all. Nice reading comprehension there.

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Weird, that isn't what I said at all. Nice reading comprehension there.

Heffay, on 14 April 2014 - 02:43 PM, said:

But you wanted a group queue; you're getting a group queue. Enjoy!

[Sandpit]

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

than your small island of misfits generate, their decisions are financially *better* for the game than listening to you.

gpclose sparky. We are done here. Feel free to try out your own rhetoric on someone who isn't smart enough to keep up with you. I've got a few choice other words for you and your insulting personal comments but I'll refrain as this isn't K Town. I think you can get the gist of it though. Feel free to keep white knighting every time someone has any issue with the game. I'm sure Paul and Russ and the rest of PGI will enjoy the sycophant nature of it

[Heffay]

Roadbeer, on 23 April 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

*snip*

Still not what I said. Not even close.

[Sandpit]

Roadbeer, on 23 April 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

those don't count though because it shows his own hypocrisy and points out that he's simply wrong in this case. Just like any other troll around these parts

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

Still not what I said. Not even close.

told ya so
I should call miss cleo for a job

[Heffay]

Sandpit, on 23 April 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

gpclose sparky. We are done here. Feel free to try out your own rhetoric on someone who isn't smart enough to keep up with you. I've got a few choice other words for you and your insulting personal comments but I'll refrain as this isn't K Town. I think you can get the gist of it though. Feel free to keep white knighting every time someone has any issue with the game. I'm sure Paul and Russ and the rest of PGI will enjoy the sycophant nature of it

At the end of the day, I'm happy and you're sad. I'll have clans and CW, and you'll have... something I guess. Everyone gets exactly what they want. Have a nice day!

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

Still not what I said. Not even close.

ROFL, ok, then, explain it to me, what exactly were you saying?

[Heffay]

Roadbeer, on 23 April 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

ROFL, ok, then, explain it to me, what exactly were you saying?

I said that groups are getting exactly what they want. It's unfortunate that a small island of people seem to have issues with minor implementation details and claim to be getting nothing at all.

In the meantime, the game moves forward and the Luddites get left behind. It's progress. Shame you can participate.

[Sandpit]

Roadbeer, on 23 April 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

ROFL, ok, then, explain it to me, what exactly were you saying?

Dude don't bother, he's just as bad as Craig

I dismissed him after he showed his true colors. He's just like any other troll. The minute you point out something they can't dispute as "anecdotal" or some such drivel, they resort to name calling, passive aggressive tactics to bait you, etc. He's offering nothing more than the equivalent of "neener neener neener, I'm happy and you're not"

He's just the prime example of "i'm friendly to you and your ideas as long as they agree with mine but if you don't fall in line with my personal expectations and approval of the game I'm going to just attack you personally, be snide, and hope I can bait you into getting banned"

[Heffay]

Sandpit, on 23 April 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

Dude don't bother, he's just as bad as Craig I dismissed him after he showed his true colors. He's just like any other troll. The minute you point out something they can't dispute as "anecdotal" or some such drivel, they resort to name calling, passive aggressive tactics to bait you, etc.

Yah? Where's that "factual" proof that PGI is losing money?

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

I said that groups are getting exactly what they want. It's unfortunate that a small island of people seem to have issues with minor implementation details and claim to be getting nothing at all.

In the meantime, the game moves forward and the Luddites get left behind. It's progress. Shame you can participate.

And how exactly are they getting that?
Because when you made that statement, the Private Match system wasn't part of the discussion.

So, once again, how are groups getting what they want.

In the meantime, the game moves forward, it's biggest backers leave, and the terminally obtuse stare at each other in their $500 Clan mechs wondering why the level of play has diminished so.

[Heffay]

Roadbeer, on 23 April 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

And how exactly are they getting that? Because when you made that statement, the Private Match system wasn't part of the discussion. So, once again, how are groups getting what they want.

Look at the 3 major tournaments. They wanted a way to run matches against each other without sync dropping.

Boom. Done.

And lol biggest backer. As you have stated yourself, since you aren't part of the biggest backers, your opinion on what the game should get isn't as important as mine.

Edited by Heffay, 23 April 2014 - 02:12 PM.

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

Look at the 3 major tournaments. They wanted a way to run matches against each other without sync dropping.

Boom. Done.

non sequitur
Try again, competitive play does not equal group play, which is what the discussion is about. That is unless you are so myopic that you believe that those 3 tournaments represent the be all, end all, of group play.

[Sandpit]

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

Yah? Where's that "factual" proof that PGI is losing money?

nice try
show me anywhere where I said that mr. "that's not what I said"

I said (quoting it now for the second time since you seem incapable of the reading comprehension you seem to tout above others)

Sandpit, on 23 April 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

the FACT that less people are spending money than they were. That's not anecdotal, that's factual. Is it enough of a drop in profits to affect PGI's bottom line? No idea, but it's still less money than they WOULD earn by simply following through with what they advertised to paying customers more often.

gpclose sparky try again

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[Heffay]

Well, let's see. Based off of years of proprietary industry data, rigorous polling of a wide swath of different gaming business practices and then correlating that data against active forum posters who want to make groups larger than four people while at the same time can't deal with existing limitations, I would say the grand total of potential lost customers is... 2? That's rounding up, of course.

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 23 April 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:

Well, let's see. Based off of years of proprietary industry data, rigorous polling of a wide swath of different gaming business practices and then correlating that data against active forum posters who want to make groups larger than four people while at the same time can't deal with existing limitations, I would say the grand total of potential lost customers is... 2? That's rounding up, of course.

Shhhhh....
Nice deflection, however, this is still in play.

Roadbeer, on 23 April 2014 - 02:13 PM, said:

non sequitur
Try again, competitive play does not equal group play, which is what the discussion is about. That is unless you are so myopic that you believe that those 3 tournaments represent the be all, end all, of group play.

[Heffay]

Competitive play IS group play. That's kinda how it works. You do know that, right?

Sorry you don't have more support for your platform, but you and Sandy will always have Ktown.