Sandpit, on 23 April 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:
nope, merely pointing out how many times you've contradicted your own statements just so you can argue with someone. It's been pointed out, discussed, and otherwise shown.
Yea because my statements weren't fact (even though I quickly and factually proved my statement after a few tried to dismiss it)
My support on the idea of
12man queue for all group sizes and solos opting in and keeping current queue the same
is somehow trolling lol
Oddly enough I STILL have had ANY of you respond with ANYTHING regarding why that's a bad idea, PGI shouldn't do it, or just why it wouldn't work in general. It's MUCH easier for you to point at others in this thread that have said things in response to MY posts as opposed to the ideas I put forth. Want a quick synopsis?
Me "idea idea idea, unhappy with PGI about this, idea idea idea support it agree with others who put forth similar ideas"
You "Yea but someone else said this"
Me "and I feel you're taking it a bit out of context because a lot of that is purely out of frustration, now back to the original idea"
You "Yea but so and so said this"
Me "What does that have to do with what I'm saying?"
You "You're a troll"
Me "Okie dokie smnokie"
and nowhere in that did you or anyone else offer any kind of counter points to the actual idea and suggestion other than trying to detract from that idea and suggestion. Then you get Heff coming along with the usual rhetoric of "If you don't like what PGI is doing so you're a troll and should be dismissed as a little whiner" trying to bait and incite people into derailing the topic even further. Then you further attempt to turn it into a "they/you started it" and yet I've seen Heffay post NOTHING even remotely on topic or constructive other than resorting to name calling and attacking people personally. Don't play the victim sir, you give just as good as you get as does Heffay.
Yet here we are on page 44 and I have yet to see you or the other very few detractors (as opposed to the 50+ supporters I pulled in just the first 10 pages) give one good, solid, legitimate reason as to why this can't or shouldn't be done. You're just trying to point at the attitude and snark of some of the posts throughout this post while completely avoiding the suggestions being made. Your new "signature" of my quote is quite fitting for you at this point.
So tell me Craig (notice how there's no snarky nicknames such as sandy, randy, roady, etc. in there nor has there been in my responses?) why is a group queue a bad thing? Why is excluding those that like to play in groups a good thing?
Go and find the link where I have contradicted myself. You won't be able to. I've been consistent in my view all the time. I know a few people have thrown that out before, that I change with the wind. But that's just them reading what they want to read, not the actual post. Don't just say "it's been shown every time" because it just hasn't. In any case, weren't you the one arguing once that referencing to other threads going back 3/4 months I think you said, was not helpful? Oh well, double standards I suppose.
Also while you're at it, link the post where I was using language or mis using your name. I am pretty sure I have only ever treated you with respect unless directly responding to your posts in kind (eg, I called you a liar directly after you called me one)
Oddly enough, I haven't argued that groups of 5 - 11 can go jump anywhere, so why would I argue it to you. Indeed, I posted this twice, once in a direct post to you. And yet still you represent me as being against groups. Another example of reading what you want to read, arguing for the sake of arguing.
Craig Steele, on 17 April 2014 - 01:07 AM, said:
I prefer
PUG QUEUE- Solo players
- Small groups (2 & 3 man) capped at one per side
TEAMPLAY QUEUE- Groups with 2-12 players and Solo players that have opted-in*
- MM tries to match groups 1:1 starting with the largest groups first
- Then tries to find 1-2 equal or smaller groups to fill in any gaps (if any)
- Any leftover spots are filled with 1-2 solo players per team
- Max of 3 groups per team
- 1-2 solo players maximum per team (to minimize PUG stomps)
So as small groups (2&3?) can also have faster MM times, better mech selection opportunities / usage and the Solo PUG player experience is protected from stomps.
Another example of people reading what they want to read. Oh dear, Craig wants everything I want but he also wants to include some other people to have the same empowerment, ergo he is against me and deserving of my scorn and venom. I'm going to keep arguing with him because he wants what I want and more. I am going to keep calling him out because he asks questions about how we can include more. He should be just like me and happy that I get what I want, why is he arguing, he should just agree with me and be done with it. My opinion is the one that everyone should adopt.
As for your fantasy discussion, perhaps if you could identify the thread I'll go reread it. It looks very mis represtative of my normal style. But then again, your stooges have had a preponderence of misrepresenting facts that don't suit their argument, maybe that's the current fashion?
As for your discussion with Heffay, thats still your discussion. You had no need to bring me into it. You choose to cast the assertions my way. It's not about me being a victim, its about you taking ownership. If you have an issue with Heff you deal with it, you don't need to bring me into it.
But I do give just as good as I get which is why I pointed out your double standards right here. It's also why I have called out some other people for their hypocracy too. If you want a moral high ground then stand on it, don't jump in the gutter and then back on your soap box and pretend you have no muck on you.
As long as you keep reading what you want to read Sandpit, and keep defending the indefensible actions of your stooges, your argument is going to be weaker than it could be. No different to PGI's decision about customers / money that you analogize above. Just like PGI, you make a choice as to where your personal value equation is, and where you think you will get best returns.
EDIT: Spelling
Edited by Craig Steele, 23 April 2014 - 08:07 PM.
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