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[Effectz]

Yeah....because we need more variants of the locust instead of the wolverine griffin etc.

[Joseph Mallan]

How about instead of more of what we already have...
Valkyrie/Panther
Dervish/Vindicator
Warhammer/Marauder
Devastator/Zeus

[Prezimonto]

Khobai, on 14 April 2014 - 07:50 PM, said:

thats not an effective way to play the game though.




Its actually the changes to gauss that hurt the dragon the most. gauss was the ideal weapon for a long-range flanker like the dragon. but now its just too hard to aim the damn thing when youre going 105kph.

It doesn't help that the increased speed for arms makes side swipe shots very hard with AC's on arms, and the Gauss is close to impossible. It's still a great build on the Flame(which I still love with Gauss/4ml or 2LPL/2ml) but it's a hero mech and therefore doesn't count. The basic Dragons are hard to use the Gauss well and still protect it in arm by twisting away.

SuckyJack, on 14 April 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:

Don't ask me why but here is two bad mech builds that make my inner mechwarrior run hot:

DRG-1C with a large XL, ASRM4, 4ML and your pick of the litter for AC with plenty of armor and lots of ammo/heatsinks.

TDR-5SS with 2 (ER)LL, 5 ML and cranked with heatsinks. Surprised me when it actually worked on Terra Therma.

Edit: Late night posting after reading all of the Dragon and Thud hate. I will admit that the Thud is average at best and the CT on the dragon prevents it from being a standup fighter making it the world's largest light mech, but I've found success in the past with those two. They have a special place in my heart as they are.

I don't hate the Dragon, it's been one of my favorite mechs since close beta. That doesn't change the reality that it's a very difficult chassis to play. An exceptional player struggles to rank high in Dragons. And there's multiple reasons for that. Doesn't mean I hate 'em, just that they do need some love.

Karl Streiger, on 15 April 2014 - 03:43 AM, said:

I won't either - as long its a T-bolt

Or a Dragon.

Edited by Prezimonto, 15 April 2014 - 04:26 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Karl Streiger, on 15 April 2014 - 03:26 AM, said:

We need a heavy - for example the TDR-7SE simple for the reason to show the people that PGI is not affraid of the ECM-Monster they created.
As long as they deny to bring a new Mech with ECM - i can't loose the feeling that there is something about ECM...that will drive everybody nuts

3067.

How many times does I gots to post it, yo?
http://www.masteruni...ame=thunderbolt

Also, in this case, it's not just being out of timeline or ECM, but having the ballistic and Jump jets.

Yeah, all we really need in this game is an (out of timeline) STEALTH POPTART.

Sorry folks, but no.

[Karl Streiger]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 April 2014 - 05:09 AM, said:

Yeah, all we really need in this game is an (out of timeline) STEALTH POPTART.

so you tripped the wire?

screw the time line - its allready screwed when clans arriving in june 3051

[Joseph Mallan]

Karl Streiger, on 15 April 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:

so you tripped the wire?

screw the time line - its allready screwed when clans arriving in june 3051

That arrived, we just aren't joining the battle till wave 5. Unless they wisely reset the clock to give us a better start point. Wave 2 sounds best.

[Karl Streiger]

Joseph Mallan, on 15 April 2014 - 05:37 AM, said:

That arrived, we just aren't joining the battle till wave 5. Unless they wisely reset the clock to give us a better start point. Wave 2 sounds best.

so we start wave 5 in November 3051...not in June - maybe this will be the "last" possible starting date for the CW

[Bishop Steiner]

Karl Streiger, on 15 April 2014 - 05:33 AM, said:

so you tripped the wire?

screw the time line - its allready screwed when clans arriving in june 3051

Clans arriving? No, our units having been moved into position to face them. Travel across the known 'verse ain't instantaneous.

and what the heck is "tripping the wire"? Is it like "jumping the shark" cus that looks exciting!

Also, even removing the timeline issue, the Stealth Poptart thing?

[Joseph Mallan]

Karl Streiger, on 15 April 2014 - 05:41 AM, said:

so we start wave 5 in November 3051...not in June - maybe this will be the "last" possible starting date for the CW

Well wave 4 ends before the latest CW launch date... so yeah.

you went back a few days to find that clip Bishop!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 15 April 2014 - 05:44 AM.

[Undecided]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 April 2014 - 07:32 PM, said:

Guess what? Neither the SPD-5D Spider, nor COM-2D Commandos packed ECM, either. Or the 3M Cicada. Nor the Atlas D-DC. In fact, you know which mech carried ECM stock in 3050?

The 3L Raven.

I know I'm going a few pages back, but I have to point out that the FS9-S1, GRF-2N and STK-3Fb each have ECM in our part of the timeline. I know the latter two are royal variants from the star league era, but PGI seems fine releasing prototype mechs that never made it to production so I don't think that's much of an excuse.
Point is the last ECM mech we got was released 15 months ago. It would seem PGI has gotten cold feet about ECM and has been deliberately avoiding putting it in any mech since then. I don't know if I want more ECM in the game, but releasing a heavy or medium equipped with it might cut down on the DDC spam.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Prezimonto, on 14 April 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

If there were to be a single Heavy I'd single out to add ECM to, it'd be the Dragon.  Already in an awkward tonnage gap, no JJ, bad hit boxes... it's a prime candidate for an ECM variant balance wise.  And it'd still be broken.

I like this idea but then players would have to waste a mechbay slot on a dragon.

[Joseph Mallan]

Undecided, on 15 April 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

I know I'm going a few pages back, but I have to point out that the FS9-S1, GRF-2N and STK-3Fb each have ECM in our part of the timeline. I know the latter two are royal variants from the star league era, but PGI seems fine releasing prototype mechs that never made it to production so I don't think that's much of an excuse.
Point is the last ECM mech we got was released 15 months ago. It would seem PGI has gotten cold feet about ECM and has been deliberately avoiding putting it in any mech since then. I don't know if I want more ECM in the game, but releasing a heavy or medium equipped with it might cut down on the DDC spam.

I lobbied for the 3Fb to replace the D-DC as our ECM Assault!

[Bishop Steiner]

Undecided, on 15 April 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

I know I'm going a few pages back, but I have to point out that the FS9-S1, GRF-2N and STK-3Fb each have ECM in our part of the timeline. I know the latter two are royal variants from the star league era, but PGI seems fine releasing prototype mechs that never made it to production so I don't think that's much of an excuse.
Point is the last ECM mech we got was released 15 months ago. It would seem PGI has gotten cold feet about ECM and has been deliberately avoiding putting it in any mech since then. I don't know if I want more ECM in the game, but releasing a heavy or medium equipped with it might cut down on the DDC spam.

Since both the GRF-2N and STK-3Fb are SLDF Royal Brigade designs, and thus extinct (even Constar has none) outside the Clans, they are really not in our timeline.

I will grant you the FS9-S1, which I always forget as it was a retconned design, and shocker, was not actually available for play when the Clan Invasion story arc was actually introduced and run for players.

Just one more reason I hate retconning.... suddenly there are supposedly all these mechs that were available...yet for those who played the game at the tournament level in those days, we had none of them. Personal bias, I know, but I have trouble considering them "real" designs, feeling much more apocryphal than canon, as it were.

[Jenkss]

I will have plenty of fun with that SHD-2K, that will sit next to my other 3 Shadowhawks nicely. Will look even better in DCMS red.

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 15 April 2014 - 06:02 AM, said:

I lobbied for the 3Fb to replace the D-DC as our ECM Assault!

only if they give me my GRF-2N first!

But as noted, we ain't likely to see the SLDF Royals in game any time soon. (or ever)

[Joseph Mallan]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 April 2014 - 06:04 AM, said:

Since both the GRF-2N and STK-3Fb are SLDF Royal Brigade designs, and thus extinct (even Comstar has none) outside the Clans, they are really not in our timeline.

Comstar didn't have them cause the variants weren't added to the game till the... 3070 ish TRO(2006+). So that isn't quite a fair excuse/reason to not allow it here.

Bishop Steiner, on 15 April 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

only if they give me my GRF-2N first!

But as noted, we ain't likely to see the SLDF Royals in game any time soon. (or ever)

As a Lyran... I approve your request!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 15 April 2014 - 06:08 AM.

[Jenkss]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 April 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

only if they give me my GRF-2N first!

But as noted, we ain't likely to see the SLDF Royals in game any time soon. (or ever)

Quoting for agreement. Would definitely rock a 2N if I had the chance.

Really enjoying all 3 of the Phoenix mediums actually, thought the Wolverine could use some variant love.

[3rdworld]

New best brawling Shadow hawk....Nice. good night sweet 2d2 prince.

The 2K may be interesting as well. All the other mechs? meh.

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 15 April 2014 - 06:08 AM, said:

Comstar didn't have them cause the variants weren't added to the game till the... 3070 ish TRO(2006+). So that isn't quite a fair excuse/reason to not allow it here.


As a Lyran... I approve your request!

Yeah, it is, because as part of their retcon, the Operation Klondike models either went with Kerensky or were pretty universally destroyed by the Second Succession War. Extinct is Extinct. And one more reason I dislike Retconning, as it is obviously filler to sell more product.

[Hobo Dan]

aniviron, on 14 April 2014 - 09:38 PM, said:

The real tragedy is the lack of CN9-AH.

Now that there's a precedent for adding overlooked variants back in, I'm going to clamor for the AH until I run out of fingers to type with.

Preach!