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#1 Luca M Pryde

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:14 AM

Why can a Jenner have a ppc? I thought innersphere mechs didn't have omni mechs till much later and the jenner was not an omni mech so it can never have a ppc!

It's chassis wasn't designed that way?

Edited by Egomane, 02 May 2014 - 04:20 AM.


#2 Egomane

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:20 AM

Not a website or forum problem!

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#3 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:21 AM

View PostLuca M Pryde, on 02 May 2014 - 04:14 AM, said:

Why can a Jenner have a ppc? I thought innersphere mechs didn't have omni mechs till much later and the jenner was not an omni mech so it can never have a ppc!

It's chassis wasn't designed that way?

Cause there are 35 ton Mechs hat can have PPCs and therefore there is no reason to deny A Jenner from being a Panther.

#4 Barantor

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:24 AM

Because in MWO, inner sphere regular mechs are more customizable than omnimechs....

#5 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:26 AM

View PostBarantor, on 02 May 2014 - 04:24 AM, said:

Because in MWO, inner sphere regular mechs are more customizable than omnimechs....

They were that way on TT as well.

#6 Barantor

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:28 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 02 May 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:

They were that way on TT as well.


Yup, but not without huge costs and downsides.

No downsides here.

#7 D34K

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:43 AM

Sssssh... we don't talk about PPC Jenners, lest the nerf bat cometh and spoil our fun. :P

#8 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:45 AM

View PostBarantor, on 02 May 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:


Yup, but not without huge costs and downsides.

No downsides here.

It was all a dice roll, I could have one with 0 defects if the dice loved me. We appear to all have master Techs. Plus I don't see anything saying we have to play by WYSIWYG?

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 02 May 2014 - 04:46 AM.


#9 Daekar

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:45 AM

Because we don't have sized hardpoints, which allows customization and simultaneously makes it difficult for any mech to have a unique identity. For better or for worse, it's what we have.

#10 Ultimax

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:47 AM

View PostBarantor, on 02 May 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:


Yup, but not without huge costs and downsides.

No downsides here.


Well the downside is that it can't mount much of anything else in the way of weapons.

I'm really not worried about a non-ECM Light mech with a single PPC and pretty much no other weapons.

(It could mount other weapons but then it would either be slower, or hotter or both).

Edited by Ultimatum X, 02 May 2014 - 04:48 AM.


#11 RedDragon

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:47 AM

View PostBarantor, on 02 May 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:


Yup, but not without huge costs and downsides.

No downsides here.

And also, they weren't. Just because the rule books provide rules to build new mechs, it doesn't mean that existing chassis were ever meant to be tinkered with. Or have you ever played an official campaign or scenario with custom built mechs?
How many canonized custom built mechs can you name? Even if you could name 100, it would be a vastly diminishing number among those thousands of active mechs throughout the IS.

#12 Alcom Isst

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:48 AM

View PostD34K, on 02 May 2014 - 04:43 AM, said:

Sssssh... we don't talk about PPC Jenners, lest the nerf bat cometh and spoil our fun. :huh:

You mean this?
I don't feel all that threatened. :P

#13 Karl Streiger

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:49 AM

The Jenner has a PPC because we don't have Panthers, Wolfhounds or Talons in game

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:55 AM

View PostUltimatum X, on 02 May 2014 - 04:47 AM, said:


Well the downside is that it can't mount much of anything else in the way of weapons.

I'm really not worried about a non-ECM Light mech with a single PPC and pretty much no other weapons.

(It could mount other weapons but then it would either be slower, or hotter or both).


I'm not worried about them either, just seems silly to me that they even have the option to.

*shrug* Whatever though, I am having a good time with private matches and stock mechs. :P

#15 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:00 AM

View PostDaekar, on 02 May 2014 - 04:45 AM, said:

Because we don't have sized hardpoints, which allows customization and simultaneously makes it difficult for any mech to have a unique identity. For better or for worse, it's what we have.

I have suggested that as we will eventually have multiple PPC types PPC should be its own Hard Point in preparation of the eventual weapon release.

#16 Karl Streiger

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:01 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 02 May 2014 - 05:00 AM, said:

I have suggested that as we will eventually have multiple PPC types PPC should be its own Hard Point in preparation of the eventual weapon release.

Heavy PPC with PPC Capacitor? I'll take a dropship load

Edited by Karl Streiger, 02 May 2014 - 05:01 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:02 AM

View PostAlcom Isst, on 02 May 2014 - 04:48 AM, said:

You mean this?
I don't feel all that threatened. :P


Right? Slow, runs hot, very vulnerable to pretty much anything that can run 90kph+.

A better build is probably to run ER LLs to be honest.


These builds are also a symptom to a problem. MLs, which should be the bread and butter weapon for IS lights, suck. This is due to them being .5-1 point too hot, and having a screwy heat system that cant even keep a pair of MLs on light mech heat neutral.

#18 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:04 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 02 May 2014 - 05:01 AM, said:

Heavy PPC with PPC Capacitor? I'll take a dropship load

Now imagine the Jenner loaded with Multiple Lite or Snub nosed PPCs???
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#19 Karl Streiger

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:05 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 02 May 2014 - 05:04 AM, said:

Now imagine the Jenner loaded with Multiple Lite or Snub nosed PPCs???
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not to mention - 3 or 4 Light PPCs with PPC Capacitor.....30-40 Pinpoint at range :P

#20 Mechteric

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:06 AM

FRANKENMECH!!!

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