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[A banana in the tailpipe]

Bishop Steiner, on 25 May 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

Lolz.

Funny how out of touch you are. Few of us remotely want to gut the whole thing. You are just foolish enough to believe more bandaids is the cure for an arterial bleed, and so are content when little Russy and Paul come up with yet another fix that fixes nothing and breaks 3 more things.

You see, sometimes, the patient needs surgery if it is going to survive. PGI is almost at the point of metastasizing, but fools like you keep thinking good diet and vitamins will keep the cancer from spreading.

Says the delusional jaded white knight.

Ok after a long day of BBQing, drinQQing, and QQing, I'm always much more composed in the mornings. Time to jump into game and let you take revenge for leaving you guys butthurt on the forums...

Peace out biatchessss!!!

Edited by lockwoodx, 25 May 2014 - 03:30 PM.

[Mcgral18]

lockwoodx, on 25 May 2014 - 03:29 PM, said:

Says the delusional jaded white knight.

Ok after a long day of BBQing, drinQQing, and QQing, I'm always much more composed in the mornings. Time to jump into game and let you take revenge for leaving you guys butthurt on the forums...

Peace out biatchessss!!!

He is quite the troll.

Though I'm not sure how good of a player he is.

[Bishop Steiner]

lockwoodx, on 25 May 2014 - 03:29 PM, said:

conceding he actually can't win an rational argument and tucking tail and running

Hey, look what I foudn for you

buh bye little boy.

Mcgral18, on 25 May 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

He is quite the troll.

Though I'm not sure how good of a player he is.

Not very.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 25 May 2014 - 03:35 PM.

[YueFei]

lockwoodx, on 25 May 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

Ok I agree "bullies" is a bit harsh. I use that word because MWO is a closed environment unique to other typical FPS games where a "bullied" player has no avenue of retreat such as custom servers or solo content. MWO draws upon the same pool of players so bullies know they have a captive audience.

The real bullies are the ones trying to bully PGI by exploiting "bad game designs" they protested against since the beginning. Now they're jealous PGI is listening to the casuals over them, when before PGI wasn't listening to anyone.

Well, OK, I'm not saying all competitive players are angels, either. Some of them are probably jerks. But then again you can find jerks in almost any group of people. But I also get the vibe from a large portion of the competitive players that they are decent folks who do want a balanced game. There are weapons that they think should be nerfed, even though they are using those weapons themselves. I've seen McGral suggest that PPC cycle time be increased to 5 or 6 seconds to reduce its DPS compared to brawling weapons.

And I certainly don't think of Roland as a jerk, and when he doesn't use LBX, I don't feel like he's "exploiting" bad game design. It's more like he's.... side-stepping bad game design and not equipping what he feels is a sub-par weapon. But he'd *love* to see LBX do 14 damage per shot and just *shred* things up close. It's not Roland's fault that the LBX hasn't been buffed.

You see what I mean? PGI is the one we have to nail to the wall to get changes. We shouldn't be yelling at each other. I think we all want the same goal, a balanced game. In the end, the better players are still gonna kick my ass even in a perfectly-balanced game. The point of game balance is not to shrink the skill gap. The point of game balance is to make a variety of tactics and builds all viable, depending on situation. If anything, a well-balanced game with lots of complexity and nuances can actually increase the skill gap, by introducing counter-plays.

[Mycrus]

Munchkins will be munchkins...

Pgi reinforces and rewards the munchkin behavior...

don't like what pgi is doing?

Don't support pgi financially, it's that simple...

Pgi better be sure that the munchkin population is large enough to sustain them.

[Xetelian]

The changes that player input has spawned does not make the community at fault for the makeup of the product but whatever.

[xX PUG Xx]

In the not too distant future (hopefully), do you think a "stock only" option would be something that would gain legs?

If it were not for timezones and such, I would love to get involved with the communiy run version of this but, if my Aunt had balls......

(p.s. I know it doesn't directly relate to the OP but I'm drunk an bored now )

[Agent of Change]

Vassago Rain, on 25 May 2014 - 02:54 PM, said:

B-b-b-b-b-ut 250k us dollars a map!

Yeah... I'm not sure what is happening, in the space of a week Vas has liked one of my posts and i have liked one of his. Holy crap I think it really has gotten bad enough that cats and dogs are cooperating.

Mcgral18, on 25 May 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

He is quite the troll.

No he's not. I know trolls and Lockwood is no troll. He's just clueless and looking to attack people that don't share his current delusion that everything is fine and the game is gonna be good any day now. He is trying to do this by shifting blame from the devs to the players who aren't him, because if it's the devs fault...well that might implicate a deeper problem.

I suspect that only time will correct the an al-cranial inversion he is suffering from.

Edited by Agent of Change, 25 May 2014 - 03:55 PM.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Just wanted to see who the cowards were thinking they could take cheap shots at me when I was logged off.

Stay classy tryhards. Sorry you'll have trouble sitting down tonight after the reaming this thread has given you with the truth.

Edited by lockwoodx, 25 May 2014 - 03:57 PM.

[Mawai]

Trauglodyte, on 25 May 2014 - 09:31 AM, said:

So, you're saying that it is my fault that we're playing 3 game modes only on the same maps with weapons that still aren't balanced attached to mechs which still aren't balanced, or sized right for that matter, when I didn't ask for any of this?

No, He is just blaming the people taking advantage of every one of these to maximize their W/L, K/D ... instead of just playing less competitively to "just have fun".

I disagree with him. Some people have fun by playing competitively (not me but I know folks like that). Some folks feel a certain satisfaction from a high W/L or K/D and work to obtain every single "point" they can. They find this fun and who am I or anyone else to claim that it should not be fun for them?

There are all kinds of different players in this game. Claiming that some are "playing it wrong" is entirely arbitrary. If the people are not cheating or hacking, if they are building mechs that are legal, if they coordinate with their team more than others, then they are playing it correctly. The fault, if any, lies entirely with the game designers who create the possibilities that these people prefer to use.

[YueFei]

lockwoodx, on 25 May 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

Just wanted to see who the cowards were thinking they could take cheap shots at me when I was logged off.

Stay classy tryhards. Sorry you'll have trouble sitting down tonight after the reaming this thread has given you with the truth.

Baghdad Bob, is that you?

[Mcgral18]

Agent of Change, on 25 May 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

No he's not. I know trolls and Lockwood is no troll.

lockwoodx, on 25 May 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

Just wanted to see who the cowards were thinking they could take cheap shots at me when I was logged off.

Stay classy tryhards. Sorry you'll have trouble sitting down tonight after the reaming this thread has given you with the truth.

You sure?

[Agent of Change]

lockwoodx, on 25 May 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

Just wanted to see who the cowards were thinking they could take cheap shots at me when I was logged off.

Stay classy tryhards. Sorry you'll have trouble sitting down tonight after the reaming this thread has given you with the truth.

If you really want to troll you should be better at it.

the old "I wanted you to attack me so you would get my blood on your knuckles" gambit has always been really stupid.

You have proved nothing, your 'truth' is incoherent and inaccurate ramblings, and your paranoia that the players are conspiring to ruin the game is almost tinfoil hat worthy. So scoot away with your tail between you legs, but remember that declaring victory is a lot different than winning.


oh and one more thing, see you in k-town where most of you threads end up anyway. ;P

Edited by Agent of Change, 25 May 2014 - 04:05 PM.

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

A lot of false accusations... With a hostile tone.

OP is about personal frustration to the state of gameplay balance and is projecting that frustration to other players calling them bullies, tryhards and d-bags. Running a Dragon Slayer with a metabuild does not make you a bully or a tryhard. I am sorry that the balance is like this, but please do not try to make an argument that competitive players are the "bad guys" and casual players are the "good guys". That is deceptive.

People you see running metabuilds run alot of different builds also. They are also testing alot of different combinations of weapons and builds. But they play for the wins. That is the only goal this game has, is it so wrong to do what you can to achieve it? Dropping in 12s against a better team and losing over and over again is very discouraging, I know. I suggest your unit makes contacts with other units on your TZ and you can do scrims in the lobbies against a team with same mentality you have. Our casual guys have done this and played no-meta-allowed matches and are enjoying themselves. I encourage you to do the same.

I hope OP gets over his frustration... Trolling in a Locust helps always!

[Roadbeer]

I ended this thread with the chimp given an ak-47

[Squirtbox]

The only part the players have in game development is feedback. We have given more than enough and there are multiple people on the forums here with very good ideas on how to fix a variety of things in the game. The fault is clearly 100% with the Devs now.

Paul's statement that weapons are in a good place or balanced or whateverthefuck he said a giant pile of **** and makes me think that many of the devs don't even play their own game anymore.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Squirtbox, on 25 May 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

Paul's statement that weapons are in a good place or balanced or whateverthefuck he said a giant pile of **** and makes me think that many of the devs don't even play their own game anymore.

Paul is definitely out of touch and a corporate mouth piece by this point. If you play between 3-5am Est tho you'll see Karl Berg on often. He's one of the cool cats.

[Bishop Steiner]

ugrakarma, on 25 May 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

You racist?

I dunno if he is...but can I get that as a paint job on my Griffin? Looks better than the one's PGI comes up with.....

[Mystere]

ugrakarma, on 25 May 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

You racist?

No. But are you projecting yourself?

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

Mystere, on 25 May 2014 - 04:33 PM, said:

No.

Good to hear.