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#141 Alaskan Nobody

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 07:59 PM

View PostGalaxyBluestar, on 09 June 2014 - 06:54 PM, said:

now i've put up exactly why pgi boast an under 50% founders retention and you can shut up.


And I have shown you how you can - or rather should - be dealing with that.

View PostShar Wolf, on 09 June 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

I have said it before - I will say it again.

If you have proof that they have deliberately and knowingly lied to you - that is called Fraud.

Fraud is a serious crime - and if you have proof of that and chose not to actually do anything about it (and no - whining on the forum does not count) then you are just as much to blame for the state of things as they are.


Just like someone witnessing a murder but not saying anything can be held responsible for the murderer remaining at large.



But then - it is sooo much more appropriate and helpful (not to mention soooo intelligent) to whine in the forums rather than actually do something about it.

View PostPrezimonto, on 09 June 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:

Also, thanks for the parting infantile jibe, that's amazing.

Cheers.

Thanks for being willing to admit you are.

Cheers.

#142 Kyle Lewis

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 11:22 PM

View PostButane9000, on 06 June 2014 - 11:01 AM, said:

I feel this translates into:

"Hey everyone! We didn't make as much money as we thought! Though it's our fault for not breaking down in detail final systems and tying the Clans into Community Warfare we still want your money! So while you won't get some of the special items you'll get a good chunk of them! So come on down and give us your money for a third time while we wait months and years to give you what you are expecting!"


based on you expertise at Esperanto? Who are you to translate anything? Are you an insider in the company, willing to break ranks and expose the company from within?

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 11:30 PM

View PostBelorion, on 06 June 2014 - 01:21 PM, said:

I have stated on here before, there is no way I will buy the package without knowing when I will and won't be able to use the mechs. If they give me that information (couldn't take long to post that) then I will consider buying a package.

Otherwise, why buy something I can't use?

they stated all that all clan mechs will all be released June 17th for those that preordered. they also spelled out exactly the release dates of the mechs for mc and cbills.

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 11:41 PM

View PostDarth Bane001, on 06 June 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:



Um yes I am entitled to my hard earned money and whether I feel this content is worth spending it on. I asked for a refund after them failing to make 3x4 work, and well when was the last time they released a patch that wasn't broken? So yeah my faith in them is low at this point but still holding on somewhat. I find it sad that you actually follow me to the point of making a point to quote me on something. If I choose to uninstall the game to make a statement and come back when I feel they done something right to make it worth my time to play then thats my right. You cant decide that for me.


Actually that still falls into the realm of your personal opinion, you decided to drop out because of the faults you feel are deal breakers, and that is fine, its your time and money on the line.

However as with most other peoples opinions no one else is interested in seeing the same boring "im quiting" "NOMD" posts after every piece of information that PGI releases.

Do it, quit already, log off the forums and bask in your ability to get out from the screwing you feel that PGI is doing to everyone. Stop wasting your valuable time and the expense of sending your electronic posts, I mean what you will save 2 to 3 cents for each time you don't traffic the mwo site, or log on to the game servers. PLUS it would mean one less atlas driver during the matches for the rest of us.

#145 Kyle Lewis

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 12:07 AM

View PostGalaxyBluestar, on 09 June 2014 - 06:54 PM, said:






this is an official news channel representitive of the componies plans of action.

http://mwomercs.com/...eveloper-update

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these dates may have not been set in stone but was an assurance of the developement plans to founders of the game they're purchased products would be going towards. these features regardless were as stated for the open beta phase.

it hasn't happened, pilot trees are still partially broken place holders and CW is still vaporware

now let's confirm that this news statement was in fact a lie.

http://mwomercs.com/...e-inner-sphere/

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note CW is associated with plans having no developement towards it until the licence was renewed. ie: they told lies about their developement plans to ensure founders would buy in and then only when money is secured do they say "sorry it was all an act whilst we do more important things". if this isn't fraudulant then it's the worst and most mislleading of management i've ever witnessed and is a perfectly good reason for boycotting this whole project which is still pushing deadlines back and is still underdelivering whilst grabdealing on recycled content.

now i've put up exactly why pgi boast an under 50% founders retention and you can shut up.

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wow, I thought the religious right was the only source of out of context reasons for things. The first quote you used is far out of date, and was already commented on by PGI. its called unexpected delays, they started communicating the issues and process after people just had to KNOW why stuff wasn't done when the ESTIMATED them too, so now we get reasons and explanations and now that is not enough, still people waste their precious time posting about how evil the company is, how they are only trying to steal our money and leave us with nothing.

Except these same people still here, they still bother to log on the website, they still log into the game, they still participate, yet its PGI who is wasting their time. How about this, save your time, save your money, log off the forums, uninstall the game, send in your refund request.

Just go find something else to enjoy, I mean at least until your unrealistic expectations for how real life can work. I mean you do know what Murphy's Law means right? and then you can spend your precious time complain about that next failed expectation.

How the game is not going to be around in two years.
PGI is not a fly by night company, its not one of those fake apps that cost you 9.99 per month until you final see your bill is too large. they have not flown to south America, never to be heard from again, they are producing new things every month, it may not always be what everyone is wanting at that moment, but they are still working for us their customer base, even if you won't open your eyes to realize it. Blizzard took 10 years to develop WOW. PGI has only been working on this game for little over2 years. I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt. we are not ALL game developers, we are not all engineers, and we are not all immune to unexpected issues arising from the development of the game so far.

UI1.5 became a liability for further development, so they fixed it, so it doesn't look as pretty as smurphies, ill give you that, but it wasn't the external appearance that was the reason i was excited, it was the fact that it helped remove roadblocks to other functions. ( The had the gut to come forward and said, look we chose the wrong way of approaching the game, and it started to bite us in the ass, so we went back and found a better way) when was the last time a corporation came forward and said, yeah we do bad things for bad reasons and we are going to actually fix it in your children's lifetime.

CW Everyone is looking forward to this aspect of the game, and frankly i wouldn't want to see CW before they have full collision back in the game, anything to stop 35 ton firestarters willing to charge right at an atlas and win. I want to see seamless game play, before i start worrying about the clan mech arrival.

CLANS so I know that a great portion of those awaiting the arrival of the clans, is about having the advantage and being unstoppable, they don't care about the lore, I mean just look at how many of the people that are complaining already that the clans are going to be nerfed, I think the idea that the TT rule are not translating well to the game, means that they need to have adjustments to the clan tech, and anyone going clan for "story" should be ok with that. to most CLANS might as well be spelled META, they want that extra level of advantage, nothing less.

Edited by Kyle Lewis, 10 June 2014 - 12:09 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 12:31 AM

How can i raise my soical rewards? It says 96% untill next phase can i have some info about this. What do i do? Keep posting? Dose it go by likes?

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:02 AM

View PostNova Latios Storm, on 10 June 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

How can i raise my soical rewards? It says 96% untill next phase can i have some info about this. What do i do? Keep posting? Dose it go by likes?


It's based on Clan Package purchases that are made, so any purchases that you, me or anyone else in the player base make go towards the rewards.
Also we are now into Phase 4 :P

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:05 AM

What phase would you say i was...

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:26 AM

View PostKyle Lewis, on 10 June 2014 - 12:07 AM, said:

fanboi blinkers on


it's plain as day, they said they were doing one thing then they admit they weren't working at all on it. that is called a lie and the result is what we don't have now, community warfare.

support mismanganed fail projects if you want, buy goldmechs all you want but you'll always be stuck with a **** product. already AMA reveals russ yet again lying about scheduals and deadlines...

http://mwomercs.com/...e-inner-sphere/
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and then...
http://www.reddit.co...m_the_russ_ama/
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oh look 6 months later and yet again we're pushing it off. more proof that the 2012 statment of delivering CW was impossible and not being working on and all the deadlines were complete trash. do you really think you'll be using loyalty points in august? do you really think there will be planets to occupy by oct? russ doesn't think so he's pushed to dec already, again fail managment, again lying about what is being worked on and what is going to be done for the gamePosted Image


in real life this amount of fail for this long means demise... and they don't care cause they pack up with your cash and change the shop front. again! such developer, many competance, much quality. they can't keep their own scheduals, they can't stop breaking their own upgrades {recently the misery and hero treb suffered mechlab errors and the disasterous missle break patch all fail attempts at clan functionality before they're even released!} THEY CAN'T BUILD THE GAME!

no point saving you if 2 years of beta fails and delays can't give you a hint you're beyond help, enjoy burning your money on incompetance.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 03:39 AM

There is my $60.03; now in seven days I can judge PGI.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:04 AM

My favorite mech in all of battletech is the uller. I was pretty intent on getting at least the uller pack - but buying the phoenix locust totally made me change my mind.

I am not going to buy any more mechs without seeing the inside of the cockpit. I really don't want to spend money for reduced visibility.

Edited by xhrit, 10 June 2014 - 04:04 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:46 AM

View PostKyle Lewis, on 09 June 2014 - 11:22 PM, said:


based on you expertise at Esperanto? Who are you to translate anything? Are you an insider in the company, willing to break ranks and expose the company from within?


Note I said "my feelings" which in no way shape or form impacts the official message. Who am I to translate anything? I'm the consumer giving my feedback to the business. That's how I honestly feel after 2 expensive packages and years of nothing to show for them.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:15 AM

View PostAzoic23, on 06 June 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

What about reducing inner sphere heatsinks to true double slots? Clans will have 7 crit slot ferro/endo will there be anything at all allowed to pass on to inner sphere. Maybe that's the gimmick to sell clans... make them stupidly imba.

IS double heatsinks always have and always will take 3 critical slots. No, Clan equipment will not "pass on" to the Innersphere, as Inner Sphere tech is a century behind and they lack most of the technology needed. Oh, and before you call the Clans imbalanced, you should take a nice long look at this post: http://mwomercs.com/...pdate-feedback/

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 07:07 AM

View PostNova Latios Storm, on 10 June 2014 - 01:05 AM, said:

What phase would you say i was...

Everyone is in the same Phase , that is why it is called a "Social Reward" because it involves the Community.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 08:39 AM

View PostKyle Lewis, on 09 June 2014 - 11:30 PM, said:

they stated all that all clan mechs will all be released June 17th for those that preordered. they also spelled out exactly the release dates of the mechs for mc and cbills.


I think you missed the point of what I was saying. I don't care when they are available. I want to know, when CW comes, and all the factions are lined up behind their own boarders, Clan Mechs safely behind clan lines...

Will I as a merc unit working for an IS house be able to use the Clan Mech I may or may not have purchased as part of this package in a Community Warfare drop against either a different house, or the clan?

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 09:03 AM

Can't wait unti 17th

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 09:05 AM

View PostBelorion, on 10 June 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:


I think you missed the point of what I was saying. I don't care when they are available. I want to know, when CW comes, and all the factions are lined up behind their own boarders, Clan Mechs safely behind clan lines...

Will I as a merc unit working for an IS house be able to use the Clan Mech I may or may not have purchased as part of this package in a Community Warfare drop against either a different house, or the clan?

What would any of that have to do with purchasing the packs with real money , I highly doubt CW will be implemented before The Clans are available for Cbills? By the time CW rolls around the Clan mechs will be available with Cbills.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:33 AM

View PostCorbenik, on 10 June 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

What would any of that have to do with purchasing the packs with real money , I highly doubt CW will be implemented before The Clans are available for Cbills? By the time CW rolls around the Clan mechs will be available with Cbills.


Doesn't matter to me whether they are purchased with C-Bills.. real money, or MC. Why would I buy a mech I can't use in Community Warfare regardless of the currency?

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:40 AM

View PostBelorion, on 10 June 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:


Doesn't matter to me whether they are purchased with C-Bills.. real money, or MC. Why would I buy a mech I can't use in Community Warfare regardless of the currency?

Considering the amount of salvaging every side was doing in the lore- I rather doubt you are going to be told you cannot use them.

They may be far more expensive to buy for one faction than the other - but lets face it - every mech was available (if rare) to every faction.


Yes.

Even Liao and Marik had access to Clan Tech (just no where near as much)

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:47 AM

View PostShar Wolf, on 10 June 2014 - 10:40 AM, said:

Considering the amount of salvaging every side was doing in the lore- I rather doubt you are going to be told you cannot use them.

They may be far more expensive to buy for one faction than the other - but lets face it - every mech was available (if rare) to every faction.


Yes.

Even Liao and Marik had access to Clan Tech (just no where near as much)


Still there has been 0 information on this. I am not willing to take the risk.

Is everyone really going to be ok with all Clan Mech vs all Clan Mech in a Davion vs Liao match community warfare match?





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