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[Tahribator]

6ML will outperform 9ML for sure, but the delivery platforms are very different. The Hunchback has 7 lasers mounted very high which allows it to shoot hulldown. The Nova has all arm-mounted weaponry instead. Its arms hang low and they are very wide apart. In order to use all of your lasers you have to expose yourself fully and this means a much shorter life. It also has a bigger profile and less torso twist.

The Nova was amazing when it was first released with all the OP'ness of Clan Mediums and Smalls, but now it's a mediocre 'Mech. I wouldn't put it above IS 50 tonners.

[Escef]

Lily, Shar, get a room.

[Lily from animove]

Escef, on 16 October 2014 - 01:21 AM, said:

Lily, Shar, get a room.

Does dropping together as a group into the groupqueue counts?

[Alaskan Nobody]

Dakkaface, on 16 October 2014 - 12:06 AM, said:

Nobody is arguing that the Nova is top tier. Nobody, especially post laser nerf is saying anything of the sort. We're all saying that it is not useless.

That is the problem - as far as "Lily" is concerned - being not top tier IS useless.

Escef, on 16 October 2014 - 01:21 AM, said:

Lily, Shar, get a room.

Apparently you read about as well as "Lily" does.

It is on the schedule for today - group que, care to join us?

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 08:59 AM.

[990Dreams]

*A Useless Mech .

Besides that, the Nova is more of a backliner Mech. Personally, I can't make a design for it for the same reason I can't make a design for a Cataphract. It's hardpoints just don't work with me and it is too low lying.

But, you have neglected the number one rule to remember when making Mech builds:

Just because you can't make it work doesn't mean it's trash.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 16 October 2014 - 10:08 AM.

[Rayne Vickers]

Monsoon, on 02 October 2014 - 08:11 PM, said:

My experience is that the Prime and S are monsters, a combination of Machine Guns and either ERML or MPLs. High DPS that can quickly overcome enemy armour. They do tend to be heat hogs, so fire discipline is a must.

Yeah..I tore a DWF to pieces last night, almost single-handedly, granted he got me JUST before he went down, but I tore off an arm and a side torso, my team finished him.

I run a Prime that's almost a stock "B" config. Using S torsos and arms, and prime everything else. I use 6x ERMLs and 4x MGs. If you have groups available, split the "arms" so you can fire all 3 on either "arm" or fire all 6 at once when you get a perfect shot (to be avoided/extremely minimized on hot maps like Terra Therma, it's not as bad on Caustic or Tormaline, but it can still be an issue). You can run 2 tons of MG ammo if you tend to lay on the trigger, but if you're disciplined, and only fire when in range, and only at exposed sections, a ton, split between each torso is plenty to feed the MGs.

[That Dawg]

I'm loving the S,(posted here 6ML's 4MG's) I dropped armor and some other stuff to get the tcIII in there. wow.
damage has dropped to about 100 per kill, often less. AVERAGING 2 kills per battle.
Previously I was getting excited as I breaking 4-500 damage pretty often-couple times over 700, now, I haven't gone past 350 damage, but kills have shot up.
Very interesting.
It sure "feels" like the targeting computer is worth the weight sacrifice. 3tons? that is a lot of armor and heat sinks

[Lily from animove]

That Dawg, on 16 October 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

I'm loving the S,(posted here 6ML's 4MG's) I dropped armor and some other stuff to get the tcIII in there. wow.
damage has dropped to about 100 per kill, often less. AVERAGING 2 kills per battle.
Previously I was getting excited as I breaking 4-500 damage pretty often-couple times over 700, now, I haven't gone past 350 damage, but kills have shot up.
Very interesting.
It sure "feels" like the targeting computer is worth the weight sacrifice. 3tons? that is a lot of armor and heat sinks

well tc1 is worth it, adds 7,25% crit chance, quite a nice buff. but every further ton is only 1% more crit, not really worth it. the -22,5 targeting time si also helpfull to identify weakspoots faster.

[That Dawg]

I know the.......result.......if I disagree, so thank you for your insights. I'll change immediately.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Incoming scores....

Game 1 Prime


Ghost bear made it tricky

I can say I did my part though - stripped the ECM off a cidada and stripped half a Whale, and cored another

No kills though

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 11:22 AM.

[990Dreams]

Shar Wolf, on 16 October 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Incoming scores....

Game 1 Prime


Ghost bear made it tricky

I can say I did my part though - stripped the ECM off a cidada and stripped half a Whale, and cored another

No kills though

You still had top damage of the whole match. Good job.

[Alaskan Nobody]

DavidHurricane, on 16 October 2014 - 11:22 AM, said:

You still had top damage of the whole match. Good job.

Only shut down once

Next one is looking odd - lotta Kurita on our side

Not looking good though

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 11:30 AM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Still one of the better performers on the team though

Edit:
This is all with 8ML 1TC 1CAP
Rest is DHS

The ants comment was watching the other team on UAV for a bit
ERLarge because I was on top of one of the tallest buildings on the map

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 11:34 AM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Next match isn't gonna look good - we just got swarmed.

Not going to post the score because NO mech is going to look good after that

[Alaskan Nobody]

Buncha Steiners in Red Team

Edit: Surprise!
Assault rush!

2nd one down - still did my part though - mauled a DDC and killed a Whale.

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 11:51 AM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Next is a camp fest - spent most of it sniping at spotters on top of CS's mountain
Double Gauss to the head took me out when they finally charged

Several of these would almost qualify for "carry harder"


Not this one though - we won
Ironic that it was my worst score yet

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 12:09 PM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Another Swarm - this time full team hitting our full team

Very well coordinated - but of little value to testing the Nova (or any other mech)

IE: it was over in less than 5 minutes total
12th Donagal Guards 12 man.

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 12:19 PM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

This match is already looking better - 8 man on our side and Alpine



Yep - Nova is TOTALLY "Useless"

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 12:40 PM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

TK'd!

Shot through the back by a teammate.


You could put that one in the "carry harder" threads "Lily"
You more than carried your weight in that "Useless" Nova

Edited by Shar Wolf, 16 October 2014 - 12:56 PM.

[Lily from animove]

Shar Wolf, on 16 October 2014 - 12:50 PM, said:

TK'd!

Shot through the back by a teammate.

Can I please drop the entire rest of my MWO life with you? because usually when i go group queue i see people like lords, and that CSJ tagged gyus they play with. and there Nova is unfun and hard, It feels like WO; why do I survive all these shots. And I tell you would I have piloted a TW we eould have won that match ^^