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[Sandpit]

MischiefSC, on 16 July 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:

Face-Humper Timby

1v1, anything within 20 tons either direction, map of your choice.

I like that build dude!

I'd like to try out a few different builds and mechs on that one. I think I could honestly come up with something that would give it a run for its money. A couple might be "unorthodox" but you gotta remember I'm the guy who several months ago was fighting against the "lasers are worthless" threads putting up 650+ easy a lot of times with a 5LL stalker. That's my girl right there, she and I have been through some battles lol

Point being I don't build to meta specs normally although I have fun in a couple of dakka dakka mechs (3xUAC5 Ilya is still a beast lol) but I tend to do better in laser builds that most don't do well in. Mostly because, in my observations, they don't want to maintain a little fire discipline and wind up overheating. Once they learn that chain fire is a must and 2-3 weapon groups. It's like a large laser mg that can fire a good 3-4 continuous rounds before having to back up, slow down RoF, and cool down a bit. It will melt and carve up just about anything.
As long as I'm not the "oh sh*t it's a Stalker, everyone focus fire on him!" target, it'll do aight lol

So I'm honestly looking forward to concocting a few designs to take out against it

One thing you solo guys will have on me is that I've been used to having teamwork support from dropping in groups that help support each other so I'm having to try and switch gears mentally a bit on building and playstyle. Should be fun regardless!

[MischiefSC]

We should give it a shot. That girl puts up 62pts every 4 seconds and does it with laser-grade accuracy and AC20-class cockpit shake nonstop for 2 out of every 4 seconds. It can keep that up for a Dire Wolf meltingly stupid 16 seconds. Given that 2 alphas will consistently destroy anything and everything at brawling range (<100m) that's almost a moot point.

If you like a 5LL Stalker you need to try this build. You've got to not think of the UAC20 like an AC; you think of it like 4 UAC5s that can burn for 2 seconds solid, then have to cool for 2 seconds. You've got 22pts of ERLL on the other arm that burns for 1.5 seconds - they synergize terribly well at close range.

I'll put 124 pts on something over ~5 seconds; a DS will do 60pts in the same timeframe with only slightly more accuracy. The DS might be able to pivot away to shield but there's only so much 'spreading' you can do to 124pts of laser-style DoT damage that makes much difference.

It struggles with concentrated groups though. Like the 5LL Stalker, she wins the stare-down. You expose yourself to 4 people you're going to have a BAD TIME. 1v1 though, maybe even 1v2 in the right situation? More consistent destruction than SRMs for the same or less heat, same range, more accuracy, and crazy enough with the doubletap *more total damage for the tonnage*.

She's mah baby.

[Sandpit]

MISERY
this is a build I've been toying with for my misery

[Kiiyor]

If you do record these or stage 1v1's, could you send me EOM screenshots in the name of science?

[Mcgral18]

Sandpit, on 16 July 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

MISERY
this is a build I've been toying with for my misery

Oh my goodness that's slow...

If that's going against a Timberwolf I'd reconsider, since it might be able to outturn you. Perhaps the Warhawk or the Direwhale.


As for a Clan build, here's a semi decent Nova, though I'm not sure if you'd want the 12 ERSLs for a dedicated Duel mech. This one has a bit of range, at any rate.

NOVA 6 ERML 6 ERSL 4 MG

[xXBagheeraXx]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1216d2aab8ad05b

One of my favorites. Catch someone not paying attention at 450meters and ruin thier day. Very cold running so i can alpha the lasers fairly often and can bring 2 pairs of weapons to bear at really long ranges. The ONLY problem is torso mounted gauss rifle crits. And..yeah its a dire whale so...

[DONTOR]

Adiuvo, on 16 July 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

Whoops, linked the wrong one. I was making two variants of it in separate tabs and got the wrong one. The JJs were also in the wrong spot.

Here's the correct version.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...76016671c02163a

Ahh ok that makes alot more sense then lol.

[Sandpit]

Kiiyor, on 16 July 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

If you do record these or stage 1v1's, could you send me EOM screenshots in the name of science?

I've been meaning to try out razer's recording tools anyhow

Mcgral18, on 16 July 2014 - 11:05 PM, said:

Oh my goodness that's slow...

If that's going against a Timberwolf I'd reconsider, since it might be able to outturn you. Perhaps the Warhawk or the Direwhale.


As for a Clan build, here's a semi decent Nova, though I'm not sure if you'd want the 12 ERSLs for a dedicated Duel mech. This one has a bit of range, at any rate.

NOVA 6 ERML 6 ERSL 4 MG

Yes it is. It'll still go toe to toe with everything short of dakka boats usually though. I've only got to get under 900 meters and it's like a LL mg lol especially on a cold map. Hot maps I can only cycle 2-3 times before having to cool off a bit

The only real disadvantage is the jj mobility in close range battles. The turn rate and limited torso twist make it a pain to turn and burn

That ac20 will usually back off anything under 90 to s as well

[Creovex]

Rouken, on 16 July 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

I'm not about to hop on the all clans are op bandwagon but I do want to see you try and match my favorite DW build.

DWF-PRIME

With a build like that, I doubt anyone has accused your mechs of being OP...

Edited by Creovex, 17 July 2014 - 11:04 AM.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Creovex, on 17 July 2014 - 11:04 AM, said:

With a build like that, I doubt anyone has accused your mechs of being OP...

Enlighten me.

[Joseph Mallan]

What I wouldn't give to have Endo so I can put in more ammo!
Dire Wolf (Stone Rhino)


i know, I know, I am not a Clanner... But I just have to!

Rouken, on 16 July 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

I'm not about to hop on the all clans are op bandwagon but I do want to see you try and match my favorite DW build.

DWF-PRIME

Supernova on roids!

[Sandpit]

I notice I haven't seen much in the way of light and medium builds yet

[Mcgral18]

Sandpit, on 17 July 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

I notice I haven't seen much in the way of light and medium builds yet

Well, I think you know why there aren't many Light builds.

I might as well throw my WubFox in:

KFX Quad MPL

[Warblood]

DWF-B - Quad C-AC/10 w/ 3ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7126fd494501240

[Red1769]

I've seen a five medium pulse laser Stormcrow before. Not sure how well he did with it.

I just built a two lrm 20, lrm 15, 2 srm 6 Stormcrow build, but haven't taken it out for a spin yet. Forgot how much ammo of each I had in it too. And am too lazy to replicate the builds in smurfy to post them.

[Joseph Mallan]

Light

and

Medium

[Sandpit]

I'm going to be pretty busy this weekend so I don't know how many counters I'll get to tinker with but I'll keep chugging away at them

[Joseph Mallan]

Technically My Stormcrow was Piloted by Kai in a novel... so you can exempt it if you wish.

[Sandpit]

Joseph Mallan, on 17 July 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Technically My Stormcrow was Piloted by Kai in a novel... so you can exempt it if you wish.

nah, as long as it's a valid build for the game it's good. I'm thinking about revamping the "no empty tonnage" rule though. Up to .49 empty tonnage is ok. Anything over .5 tons is not. (Mainly because 1/2 ammo is available now)

[Duran Vancor]

Sandpit, on 17 July 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

I notice I haven't seen much in the way of light and medium builds yet

SCR-PRIME

5 ERML
3 SRM6+ART
16 HS

Good thing the Stormcrow can't mount jumpjets. What a ridiculously overpowered mech it would be