Can You Stop The Practice Pgi?
#501
Posted 27 August 2014 - 03:29 PM
Its better since last patch.
#502
Posted 27 August 2014 - 03:40 PM
But you can't fix what is broken, if you don't know where it's broken at, and with a list as long as the current one...well...
At the rate they pump out hero mechs and the original clan prices, i have the sneaking suspicion they are most likely on a very tight budget, and at this point they have done away with their private test server and resorted to
#503
Posted 27 August 2014 - 03:58 PM
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Let me fix this for you....
"But you can't fix what ISN'T broken."
As for how solvant the company is, I've no idea. They're hiring which they claim is a good sign... but we'll see.
#504
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:00 PM
Any people who are good will use the group que unless it is a tourney. Then they'll bypass the "solo" rule. You must play on a totally different time zone than I do, cause I don't see any syncs.
Also, when you propose a solution instead of complaining and expecting someone else to, then I'll listen and not consider you a whiner.
Edited by DavidHurricane, 27 August 2014 - 04:01 PM.
#505
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:01 PM
DavidHurricane, on 27 August 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:
Any people who are good will use the group que unless it is a tourney. Then they'll bypass the "solo" rule. You must play on a totally different time zone than I do, cause I don't see any syncs.
It can't really be considered pure paranoia when you've got guys like KJudoon here saying that he does it.
#507
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:19 PM
DavidHurricane, on 27 August 2014 - 04:02 PM, said:
As much as I respect you all, come up with a solution. Then I'll listen.
oddly enough I thought of a simple one.
Program in a random 0-X (say 30) second delay when anyone hits the launch buttonbefore it actaully makes them available in the queue. Basically desyncs the button and makes the whole idea moot.
No policing would then be needed.
#508
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:21 PM
RussianWolf, on 27 August 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:
Program in a random 0-X (say 30) second delay when anyone hits the launch buttonbefore it actaully makes them available in the queue. Basically desyncs the button and makes the whole idea moot.
No policing would then be needed.
Random 0-10. You don't want the wait delay to be too long, unless of course the player can do something while waiting (assuming he has one monitor and uses full screen mode, and has something to do).
#509
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:23 PM
DavidHurricane, on 27 August 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:
Random 0-10. You don't want the wait delay to be too long, unless of course the player can do something while waiting (assuming he has one monitor and uses full screen mode, and has something to do).
What about searches that take longer then 10-30 seconds wouldn't they just be added to the queue until it was filled? Resulting in the same?
#510
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:26 PM
RussianWolf, on 27 August 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:
oddly enough I thought of a simple one.
Program in a random 0-X (say 30) second delay when anyone hits the launch buttonbefore it actaully makes them available in the queue. Basically desyncs the button and makes the whole idea moot.
No policing would then be needed.
Great idea, but they need to let us do something in the mech bay or star map while the wait time for the queue is passing.
On top of this there should be an accept to launch button pop up when the match is ready. Although this might defeat the purose of staggering drop uses.
The queue has been working great, but the screen locked for queue waiting and a few other things need some work.
Edited by Johnny Z, 27 August 2014 - 04:27 PM.
#511
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:28 PM
RussianWolf, on 27 August 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:
Program in a random 0-X (say 30) second delay when anyone hits the launch buttonbefore it actaully makes them available in the queue. Basically desyncs the button and makes the whole idea moot.
No policing would then be needed.
so you're suggesting that PGI implement a mechanic that desyncs every single player in the game across the entire server from hitting launch at the same time?
DavidHurricane, on 27 August 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:
Random 0-10. You don't want the wait delay to be too long, unless of course the player can do something while waiting (assuming he has one monitor and uses full screen mode, and has something to do).
10 seconds wouldn't prevent much if anything in this case because a lot of players regularly wait past 30 seconds now to launch.
Johnny Z, on 27 August 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:
On top of this there should be an accept to launch button pop up when the match is ready. Although this might defeat the purose of staggering drop uses.
The queue has been working great, but the screen locked for queue waiting and a few other things need some work.
all they have to do is let players know when the game has launched even when the screen is minimized. Not killing sound would be all that's needed for that. When you hear betty, you know it's time to put the screen back up
#512
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:30 PM
SixStringSamurai, on 27 August 2014 - 04:23 PM, said:
What about searches that take longer then 10-30 seconds wouldn't they just be added to the queue until it was filled? Resulting in the same?
Sandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:
True. But you don't just want them sitting there. That's stupid. Maybe just let them tinker with non-qued Mechs in the lab. Or shrink the window.
Edited by DavidHurricane, 27 August 2014 - 04:30 PM.
#513
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:32 PM
#514
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:39 PM
MischiefSC, on 27 August 2014 - 04:32 PM, said:
26 pages, PGI is fully aware of this thread, they haven't answered yet I sincerely doubt they will
Have you ever noticed that PGI is very.... "political" in how they talk to the community?
"CW means different thigns to different people"
"We talked to some competitive players and this is the balance we came up with"
"That was our position at the time"
It's extremely rare they give any kind of definitive answer or info.
#515
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:39 PM
RussianWolf, on 27 August 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:
Program in a random 0-X (say 30) second delay when anyone hits the launch buttonbefore it actaully makes them available in the queue. Basically desyncs the button and makes the whole idea moot.
No policing would then be needed.
I can tell you for fact the player base is so low right now, I've mis-synced on several occasions by up to 2 minutes and gotten into matches with people in the sync. This would not solve anything. Wait time trumps all as it expands elo, Quad3 and group considerations at set times if groups cannot be made with the available population.
#516
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:45 PM
Sandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:
Yes, only because its the simplest solution. My wait times are long enough already that I doubt I'd notice it.
It eliminates the need to police the system and all the tracking involved that would eat up endless man hours.
Is it perfect, maybe not. But it shouls make the odds of a sucessful sync drop even more remote.
Kjudoon, on 27 August 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:
must suck, I don't think I've ever waited more than a minute even right after a patch when the pop is extremely low because they are all still patching.
#517
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:49 PM
Sandpit, on 27 August 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:
Going off of the standard definition and response Mischief received, I think its fair to assume it fits their definition also. Now whether they allow it as an exception, that's another issue.
The 3rd party Voip they have admited fits their definition but have specifically allowed it.
The semantics can be argued, but that's all you are arguing at that point.
#518
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:50 PM
Edited by Kjudoon, 27 August 2014 - 04:50 PM.
#519
Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:52 PM
RussianWolf, on 27 August 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:
The 3rd party Voip they have admited fits their definition but have specifically allowed it.
The semantics can be argued, but that's all you are arguing at that point.
no, i'm arguing that PGI has not said it's illegal. Period. That's a fact, not semantics. Until they say it's illegal, it's not.
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