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So, since all the formatting in my last thread broke this is try number two.

The build thread.
Or, why you have those Mechs collecting dust.

Many new players often post or ask questions about their Mech builds. I've also seen many players who are far from new, but when trying out a new class of Mech absolutely hate whatever they bought. This is the thread that will give you advice on the appropriate way to run each class of weight, and style of Mech.

This is probably a thread where meta-builds will be created. But I came up with all of these builds before they became meta (I checked).

READ THIS: Feedback and advice to new players are welcome. Please do not re-post a build where you move the ammo from the torso to the feet, or swap one weapon or ditch a few tons. Original builds and tips to new players and text posts on tips about builds (specific to one build or otherwise) are more than welcome though!

In this thread, we will review all of the weight classes. We will also have clan builds for every role, and at least one Clan Mech from every weight class.

We will also review the following roles each Mech can play: Brawler, Sniper, Boat, Backliner, Frontliner, Assault, and Support Units.

Terminology:

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(number)m: Any given range. The numbers can be seen next to your reticle like this:

The distance from me to the ground is 225 meters.

Alpha Strike: Firing all your weapons at once. This is not always a good tactic, especially when your heat level is high.

CQC: Close Quarters Combat. Can generally be assumed to be around 300 meters.

Short range: Any weapon that is most efficient or below 300 meters.

Medium range: Any weapon that is most efficient between 300-460 meters.

Long range: Any weapon that is most efficient between 460-900 meters.

ROF: Rate of Fire

Spotting: Identifying and holding a target. Usually done with TAG, NARC, UAVs, or any combination of the three.

Chain fire: A mode of fire that cycles throughout the weapons in a given group. Press <Backspace> (by default) to activate.

Roles:

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Brawler: Brawler units typically do not fight outside 270 meters. These Mechs will have most of their armor on the front and focus on dealing high Alpha Strike damage. These units do not lead an assault, rather they only begin to fight when they are in range.

Sniper: Sniper units are not designed for extended period CQC. These units will often have mostly front armor. Snipers will often need to be mobile but speed is not a requirement These units can run high heat, as they should be capable of hiding while they cool down.

Boat: A boat in this case refers to an LRM boat. These Mechs use a large number of LRM volleies to attack enemies at very long ranges, and often over terrain. These units do not need to be fast, well armored, or maneuverable due to their range capabilities. These units rely on allies to spot Mechs.

Backliner: These Mechs are designed to support units in main combat, but not up front. These Mechs will often run from 64.8 to 81.0 KpH, and will utilize medium/long range capabilities. These units are not designed to be leading combat and are not designed for being the primary target.

Frontliner: These Mechs are designed to lead heavy assaults. These Mechs will often be slow, and these Mechs often require special skills to run them at maximum efficiency. In other words, you need to play them Mech a lot to get the feel for it. These units often function at medium/short ranges and are designed to be leading, meaning they must hit hard and fast.

Assault: These units are designed to be walking power-houses. Often the slowest units that are fielded, these Mechs more than make up for that in firepower and armor. Special care should be taken with regards to heat management of these units, and these units should often not be left by themselves (avoid getting lost).

Support Units: These units are designed to aid other units. This could simply be a fast Mech that stays near a slower unit, or a Mech with ECM and TAG spotting capabilities. These Mechs aren't designed to fight on their own.

The following builds are to give new players ideas on how to make their own units. Not every unit in this thread will work for everyone. If you're a new player and you liked these builds, please post that! Or, if you would like to comment on the formatting of this thread, that is also welcome!

Credits:

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Crotch RockIt: MDD-A "Blue Dragon Rev. I", in Clan Mechs.

3xnihilo: Shadow Spider, LURMansi, NARCsi, in Light Mechs.

KraftySOT: BNC-3E "Wailer", in Assault Mechs.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 17 February 2015 - 12:51 PM.

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Light Mech units:

Brawler:

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FS9-H "Pulsar"

This is a light Mech platform designed for CQC. The Medium Pulse Lasers deal effective damage even against Clan Mechs. Care must be taken to not overheat, and it is best to mostly chain fire the lasers.

SDR-AN "3xnihilo's Anansi"

This is another light Mech designed for CQC. Two Medium Pulse Lasers coupled with an SRM 4 with Artemis allow this Mech to dance around enemies and blow them apart.

Sniper:

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FS9-A "Sniper"

This is a light Mech platform designed for sniping. Although not as long ranged as other light Mech sniper builds, it is very maneuverable.

FS9-S "Sniper Alt. A

This Mech utilizes one ERPPC and one ERLL for sniping. The ERPPC allows it to have a higher range, at the cost of more heat. It is slower than the FS9-A "Sniper".

Boat:

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COM-2D "Fireball Casting Wizard"

This Mech uses 15 tubes of LRMs to deliver LRM support from afar. ECM gives it cover while it's speed allows it to dodge enemy units. Lack of back-up weapons are made up for because the Mech has maximum armor.

SDR-A "LURMansi"

This Mech is another light Mech LRM boating platform An LRM 10 with 4 tons of ammunition allow it to hit most enemy units. Two Medium Lasers offer backup. Care should be taken not to accumulate too much damage.

Backliner:

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RVN-3L "Vulture"

This Mech uses an ER Large and LRMs for Linebacking. ECM protects units around it and AMS protects the unit itself. Medium Lasers can also function at medium-short range.

SDR-A "Shadow Spider"

This Mech uses an LRM 5 and an ER Large Laser to keep enemy units at bay from the backlines. Care should be taken not to accumulate too much damage.

Frontliner:

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COM-3A "Jack Rabbit"

This Mech utilizes two SRM fours and a Medium Pulse Laser for frontline capabilities. What it lacks in armor it makes up for in speed. Care should be taken to not stop, otherwise you will be a definite target.

PNT-8Z "Flash-Bang"

Utilizing one of the newest chassis available to the public, the "Flash-Bang" makes a flash of lasers and makes a target go bang. One of every pulse laser class allows this Mech to deliver dangerous damage for it's weight class. Be cautious about accumulating too much damage though, for the Mech is not remarkably fast.

Assault:

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RVN-4X "Predator"

Creating an "Assault" class light unit was, to say the least, hard. This is a rough attempt to field a powerful light. An AC/2, two Medium Pulse Lasers and an SRM 6 give the Mech good firepower for a light Mech.

Support Unit:

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COM-2D "Spy"

This Commando is designed to be a dedicated spotting unit. ECM allows it to counteract enemy missiles. TAG and NARC allow it to lock onto enemy units. An SRM 4 can be used for defense.

SDR-A "NARCsi"

This Mech is designed for spotting in addition to combat. Two Machine Guns and two Medium Lasers can distract enemy units while a single NARC beacon launcher can tag and track enemy units. Care should be taken not to overuse the Machine Guns. Armor is not a sever problem with the Mech.

SDR-5D "A Little Helper"

This light Mech is designed for keeping enemy units off of bigger units. Two Medium Pulse Lasers can be deadly while the Mech dashes back and forth. A Medium Laser offers a lower heat option. Guardian ECM can protect the Mech and its allies from missiles.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 17 February 2015 - 12:46 PM.

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Medium Mech units:

Brawler:

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KTO-18 "SRM Storm"

This Mech uses 30 SRM tubes for brawling. When chain fired the missiles are devastating. Care should be taken not to accumulate too much damage. Optionally, the flamers can be replaced with Medium Lasers or Small Pulse Lasers.

HBK-4G "10 Downer"

This is my new favorite Brawler. Using 3 Medium Pulse Lasers and an AC/10, this Mech can deal terrifying damage. A slight engine upgrade gives it a faster feeling as it punches holes with good speed using the AC/10.

Sniper:

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SHD-5M "Nickle Hawk"

This Mech snipes out enemy units with a Gauss rifle and ER Large Laser. A TAG can identify targets and an AMS protects it from enemy missiles. Optionally, more armor can be swapped from the back of the Mech to the front.

HBK-4G "Gaussback"

This Mech swaps the traditional AC/20 for a Gauss rifle to snip enemies out at long range. Plenty of ammunition ensures you won't be left without your most powerful weapon. Three Medium Lasers offer protection. Care should be taken to protect your shoulder and to not become the main target.

CN9-AH "Gauss Downer"

A spin on the normally brawling Centurion, this Mech uses a Gauss rifle to attack at long range. When sufficient damage has been done, the Mech can move in to brawl, where it's Gauss Rifle's lethal capabilities can be compounded with two SRM 4s. Care should be taken to avoid taking too much damage to the back, and be conservative with your ammo.

Boat:

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KTO-18 "LRM Storm"

This Mech uses 35 LRM Tubes for efficient boating. It has enough ammunition to keep firing for a long time. TAG is also equipped to identify targets. Care should be taken not to accumulate too much damage.

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CN9-A "Bow"

This unit uses a UAC/5 and Large Laser to provide Medium range support. LRM5s offer long range support as well. Care should be taken to guard your shoulders. Optionally, armor can be swapped over to the front of the torsos.

VND-1X "Slap"

I am running out of names. This Vindicator is a force to be reckoned with. A Large Pulse Laser coupled with a UAC/5 allow the Mech above average firepower for it's size. A Medium Laser offers a low heat energy backup weapon. An XL 225 Engine allows the Mech to run at 81.0 KpH while carrying all it's weapons. The Mech has surprisingly good heat efficiency.

ENF-4R "Magic V [5]"

Another fresh chassis, this Mech takes advantage of Ultra Autocannon technology to deliver fire support at a medium range. An AMS with 3 tons of ammo can protect nearby allies from missile storms, and if duty calls three Medium Lasers and two Medium Pulse Lasers offer it enhanced brawling capabilities. Care should be taken not to overheat.

Frontliner:

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TBT-7K "Battle Ram"

This Mech is designed to lead head on assaults. An SRM 6 and Medium Pulse Laser give it short range capabilities. An AC/5 and Large Pulse Laser can back up the other short range weapons. Care should be taken not to accumulate too much damage on the backside of the Mech.

Assault:

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SHD-5M "Hammer"

This role was a challenge, but I feel satisfied with the result. An AC/5 and Large Laser give multi-range capabilities, while it's LRM 10 can function down to 180 meters. A Medium Pulse Laser allows it to combat at short range.

Support Unit:

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KTO-20 "Rain Maker"

This Kintaro goes back to the original purpose of the Mech: spot enemies and make it rain missiles. Two TAG units ensure the Mech will be able to track a unit with TAG. A NARC beacon can be deployed for a long-term lock. 15 LRM Tubes and an ER Large Laser can support units from a distance. The Mech only has one Medium Laser for CQC though.

KTO-19 "Beaconer"

This Kintaro is designed for one purpose: to deliver a deadly package to enemy units. Three NARC Missile Beacons allow the Mech to effectively spot enemy units. A TAG enhances this. A Large Laser and Medium Pulse Laser offer minimum combat capabilities. It's maximized armor and higher engine give it a good way to escape when noticed. The Mech is best used when spotter from behind the enemies.

GRF-1S "Little Brother"

This Mech is designed to assist heavier or slower units. Four Medium Pulse Lasers can sear off armor while two Streak SRM Twos can chase off light units. The Mech also has a relatively high speed, allowing it to be efficient in CQC.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 17 February 2015 - 12:51 PM.

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Heavy Mech units:

Brawler:

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JM6-DD "Dreadnought"

My original Jagerbomb. Utilizing two AC/20s and two Medium Lasers, this Mech is designed to dish out pain. Care should be taken not to be the first in battle. Since most people hate Jagerbombs, I also present one more Heavy Brawler.

TDR-5SS "Photon Storm II"

This Mech is not designed to Alpha Strike. Use chain fire or small individual groups. You should also take both Cool Shot consumables. Seven Medium Pulse Lasers dish out high damage. An SRM 6 offers back up. 17 Double Heat Sinks can cool this Mech down quickly. Optionally, the SRM 6 can be swapped for more DHSs (in the unused arm).

Sniper:

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JM6-S "Arrow head"

This Mech uses two AC/5s and two ER Large Lasers to attack enemies at a long range. This Mech has plenty of ammunition to ensure continuing function. The ammo can be swapped for more energy weapons. The armor can be decreased for more ammunition or backup weapons.

Boat:

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CPLT-A1 "Steel Rain"
"Steel Rain" Mk. II
"Steel Rain" Mk. III (50 tubes, more ammo)

This Mech uses 60 Tubes of LRMs and 1620 rounds of LRMs to deliver 27 salvos of LRMs. The variety of launchers allows many approaches. Armor or ammunition can be swapped for Jump Jets. Armor can also be swapped for more ammunition. The Mk II uses a different set of tubes. The Mk III. has 1080 more LRMs and ten less tubes.

Backliner:

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ON1-V "Fielder"

This Mech is designed for Medium Range combat. Two ER Large lasers coupled with 20 LRM tubes allow it to aid allies at long range. A Gauss Rifle offers it ballistic sniping options. Care should be taken not to overheat or run out of missiles. Watch your shoulders, as this Mech uses an XL engine.

Frontliner:

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TDR-9S "Quarterback"

This Mech is designed to sustain damage leading combat. An LB10-X AC gives the Mech a good chance of hitting its target. An SRM 6 allows it to hit enemies at short range. Three Medium Pulse Lasers and Medium Lasers allow the Mech to sear off armor while brawling. Care should be taken to not overheat. The Mech uses an XL engine to save space, so watch your shoulders.

Assault:

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ON1-K "Slayer"

This Mech is designed for maximum firepower. Two LRM 10s provide fire support for your allies. A UAC/5 and two ER Large Lasers provide sufficient medium range combat abilities while Medium Lasers can offer additional support at close range.

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TDR-5S "Light Speed"

Although this Mech is not fast it can still provide support to allied units. A NARC and TAG allow it to track enemy units while an LRM 10 allows it to boat to support allies. A ER Large Laser gives it options to fight at a distance. Two Medium Lasers and two Machine Guns allow it to combat at close ranges.

TDR-5S "The Assistant"

This Mech is designed to aid slow units without backup weapons (Steel Rain, Hail Storm). An LB10-X AC allows it to have a high chance of hitting pesky units. Three Medium Lasers allow players who aren't skilled marksmen to have a good chance of hitting something. A Large Pulse Laser deals decent damage and two Streak SRM 2s allow the Mech to attack Light Mechs.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 11 September 2014 - 06:28 AM.

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Assault Mech units:

Brawler:

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BLR-3M "Burner"

This Mech is not designed for alpha strikes. Chain fire and small groups are best for this Mech. Five Medium Pulse Lasers allow it to burn off armor from enemy Mechs. Three Large Lasers boost this capability. Twenty double heat sinks allow it to cool off. It is recommended you take Cool Shot consumables with this Mech. You should also protect your shoulders, as this Mech uses an XL engine to allow more tonnage for heatsinks.

Sniper:

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BNC-3S "Creeper"

Making an assault sniper wasn't easy. This build uses a Gauss rifle and four ER Large Lasers to snipe out enemy units. A TAG and BAP allow it to extend the range it can detect enemies at. Heat management should not be overlooked, and this Mech does use an XL engine for speed and mobility.

Boat:

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STK-5M "Hail Storm"

Using 70 tubes of LRMs, and in a variety of configurations, this Mech can dish out ~33 salvos of 70 LRMs. It offers a variety of tubes to allow the pilot control based on the situation at hand.

Backliner:

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HGN-732 "Mountain Man"

This Mech sacrifices speed for strength and armor. A UAC/5 can snipe while a Large Pulse Laser and an ER Large Laser can sear the armor off the enemy unit. 20 LRM Tubes provide cover fire. The Mech has lots of ammunition to ensure it can continue to fight. Don't neglect the heat gauge. Optionally armor can be swapped for weapons.

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STK-3F "Vanisher"

This Mech trades heat efficiency for devastating firepower and durability. Twin Large Pulse Lasers and four Medium Pulse Lasers vaporize enemy armor. Two SRM 6s and two SRM 4s offer backup for when the lasers are too hot. Take Cool Shot. Firepower can be swapped for more heat sinks.

BNC-3S "Dead Hand"

This Mech is designed for powerful Alpha Strike capabilities. Six Medium Pulse Lasers vaporize enemy armor while two Large Pulse Lasers aid this Mech's brawling capabilities. An SRM six and LB-10X AC provide nice splash damage to guarantee a hit. Turning a corner and seeing this Mech is not a good thing.

BNC-3E "Wailer"

This Mech is designed to throw a hard punch just like the "Dead Hand". An Autocannon 20 is intimidating by itself, but two Large Pulse Lasers and Two Medium Pulse Lasers enhance it's destructive capabilities. The Mech has good armor and good cooling efficiency as well, and does not use an XL engine.

Assault:

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AS7-D "Stompy Atlas"

This Mech has been proven to intimidate even Clanners. A Gauss rifle and two Large Lasers provide long to medium range firepower. An LRM 15 offers a salvo to cover you while you move in to brawl. Two Medium Lasers and an SRM 6 finish the job. There is plenty of ammunition so you don't have to worry about depletion. An engine upgrade offers a minor speed boost. The Large Lasers can be swapped for ER Large Lasers.

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AS7-D-DC "Grand Guardian"

An assault support unit is not something you normally see. This Mech is designed to hang out along the back lines. 30 tubes of LRMs allow the Atlas to provide LRM support. A TAG allows the Mech to spot enemy units. An ER Large Laser and an AC/5 allow the Mech to snipe out enemy units. ECM and AMS provide missiles cover. BAP can aid allies in the heat of battle.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 20 October 2014 - 03:46 PM.

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Clan Mechs:

Brawlers:

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SMN-D "Knuckles"

Utilizing two Clan AC/5s and four Clan Medium Lasers, this Mech is designed to dance with enemy units at close range.

TBR-S "Nitro"

Two Clan Streak SRM 4s coupled with two Clan Large Pulse Lasers and two Clan Machine guns allow this Mech to deliver a short range punch.

WHK-B "Warhawk Brawler"

Five Clan Large Pulse Lasers allow this Mech to vaporize enemy armor in quick pulses of blue light.

Sniper:

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SMN-PRIME "Scope"

A single Clan Gauss Rifle offers this Mech a large portion of it's firepower. A Clan ER Large Laser allows it backup and a Clan Medium Pulse Laser gives it an extra close range option. An AMS offers it cover from missile boats.

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SMN-D "Heavy Rain"

This Summoner build uses 35 Clan LRM Tubes to deliver a deadly package to enemy units. Enough ammunition is stored to ensure you won't run out.

WHK-B "Thunderstorm"

This Warhawk build uses 65 clan LRM tubes and 2160 LRMS occupying all free slots to deliver 33.5 salvos of heavy rain. C-TAG ensures that it will be able to spot enemies while two Clan ER Medium Lasers allow it a small backup punch.

MDD-A "Blue Dragon"

This Mad Dog build utilizes 50 Clan LRM Tubes and 2160 ammunition to deliver 43.2 salvos of blue Clan LRM destruction. Four Clan ER Medium Lasers allow it energy weapon backup.

MDD-A "Blue Dragon Rev. I"

This Mad Dog loses two tons of ammunition for a Clan Active Probe and more armor on the side torsos. A Clan ER Medium Laser is also swapped in favor of a Clan TAG for target tracking.

Backliner:

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SCR-C "Chicken"

In spite of the nickname this Mech can still be a good backliner. A Clan LRM 10 allows it to provide missile support while an AMS shields it from enemy missiles. A Clan Large pulse Laser allows it to dish out good damage at medium ranges. A Clan ER PPC and Clan ER Large Laser allow it to provide log range support. Be careful not to overheat.

WHK-B "Warhawk Sepcial"

This Mech uses two Clan UAC/10s to devastate enemies at Medium Ranges. A Clan ER Large Laser can provide backup while a Clan NARC can tag and track enemies.

Frontliner:

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WHK-B "Slammer"

The sight of this Mech is something to behold. Four Clan Medium Pulse Lasers sear off enemy armor. Two Clan Streak SRM 4s and a Clan Streak SRM 6 allow it to fire of a volley of missiles to open wounds and a Clan UAC/10 allows the Mech to finish the enemy. Optionally, ammunition can be swapped for larger weapons.

Assault:

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DWF-PRIME "Great White"

Care should be taken with how you fire your weapons. Using three Clan ER Medium Lasers, two Clan Pulse Lasers, a Clan UAC/5, a Clan UAC/20, a Clan Gauss Rifle, and 15 Clan LRM Tubes, this Mech can deliver devastating firepower. Do not overuse the lasers. Cool Shot is optimal.

WHK-B "Warhawk Avenger"

This Mech uses a Clan UAC/20 coupled with a Clan Gauss Rifle to pack a devastating punch at any range. A Clan ER Large Laser serves as backup. Care should be taken to conserve ammo.

Support:

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KFX-S "Coy Fox"

This Mech is designed for pure spotting. Using a Clan TAG and NARC, this Mech can TAG and track almost any unit. ECM offers sensor cover, and three Clan AMSs allow it to evade most missiles. It only uses a Clan Medium Pulse Laser for defense weaponry however, so do not stray from your team.

DWF-A "Big Brother"

A targeting computer Mk. VII coupled with its 35 tubes of Clan LRMs makes it a bad sign to be within LOS of this Mech. Two Clan Large Pulse Lasers, a Clan Medium Pulse Laser, a Clan UAC/10 and Clan TAG allow this Mech to offer support to allies in the middle of a battle.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 09 October 2014 - 10:03 AM.

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IraqiWalker, on 11 September 2014 - 06:33 AM, said:

Feel free to delete this post if it gets in the way of editing (contact a moderator, and you have my permission to delete it), but you are forgetting the role of Skirmisher. Backliner is kind of like it, but there are differences since skirmishers cna operate away from the main group, and rely on long range weapons to harass the enemy from multiple angles.

Also, this is more in the semantics part, but usually boat is not only to LRMs, we have energy boats, ballistic boats, SRM boats ... etc. Fire Support Units, or Artillery would be the exclusive LRM only roles. (FSUs can include LRMishers in this case, or medium LRM boats, while artillery is mostly assault LRM boats, and some havy LRM boats (specifically CPLTs and Orion V, and VA variants)

Please delete that post after I answer your questions/concerns.

Note that in the Roles area I said that in this case it refers to LRMs.

Most Backliners can operate away from the group and are designed for medium/long range. It is up to the player on how to customize the builds to fit their needs.

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DavidHurricane, on 11 September 2014 - 06:57 AM, said:

Please delete that post after I answer your questions/concerns.

Note that in the Roles area I said that in this case it refers to LRMs.

Most Backliners can operate away from the group and are designed for medium/long range. It is up to the player on how to customize the builds to fit their needs.

Already done.

For future reference. I know it can be annoying, but using the Horizontal Rule

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can spare you the pain of posts interrupting your formatting. You can keep everything in one post, and be safe.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 11 September 2014 - 07:01 AM.

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IraqiWalker, on 11 September 2014 - 07:00 AM, said:

Already done.

For future reference. I know it can be annoying, but using the Horizontal Rule

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Plus spoilers

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can spare you the pain of posts interrupting your formatting. You can keep everything in one post, and be safe.

Actually, all my URLs became plain text after one point in my first version of this thread. I think there is a limit to URLs per thread.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 11 September 2014 - 08:31 AM.

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Appogee, on 11 September 2014 - 08:30 AM, said:

Oookay. Leave you to it then, I guess.

You extracted the text you needed to prove a point, missing everything else I said. That, frankly, only further proves that you think to highly of yourself and less of others.

I said I didn't want feedback because it is up to the player to decide how to customize the build how they want it and because these are to inspire ideas. When you include everything I said it really changes things doesn't it?

DavidHurricane, on 11 September 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

These builds are to give new players ideas on how to make their own units. Not every unit in this thread will work for everyone.

Just because something does (or doesn't) work for you doesn't mean it does (or doesn't) work for someone else.

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Shar Wolf, on 11 September 2014 - 08:34 AM, said:

One thought for the Assault sniper though - a lot of people seem to like Stalkers for that, due to the high E mounts in the arms.
Stick PPC or (ER)LL in them, and they hill hump good, I am told (haven't really tried it yet)

Point made and taken (since you were rational about it). However, I repeat myself:

DavidHurricane, on 11 September 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

Just because something does (or doesn't) work for you doesn't mean it does (or doesn't) work for someone else.

...and...

DavidHurricane, on 11 September 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

These builds are to give new players ideas on how to make their own units. Not every unit in this thread will work for everyone.

I swear I'm gonna have to copy those quotes since I keep having to use them...

[Alaskan Nobody]

DavidHurricane, on 11 September 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

Point made and taken (since you were rational about it). However, I repeat myself:

Appologies again.

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Appogee, on 11 September 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

His MechCommander 2 thread (link in his signature) is however a Very Good Thread in which we are permitted to freely contribute.

• It is designed for contributions. This one isn't.
  
• I never claimed it was the best thread ever. I linked it because it is where most of my content gets posted (whenever I get to post it).

Appogee, on 11 September 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

Dude, you said it three times. I find it highly bemusing that you're posting builds to help new players and inspire them but not letting anyone else offer potential advice about them. It seems frankly very odd.

You can offer advice. I said you couldn't correct and re-post modifications to the builds. Perhaps I should clarify that.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 11 September 2014 - 08:41 AM.

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Appogee, on 11 September 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

I'm sorry, I actually don't mean to give you a hard time, and I appreciate all the work you put into your build and threads. It just seems weird to me to post builds and ask experienced players not to comment on how they could potentially be improved.

I should have clarified. It isn't your fault.

I just didn't want the thread cluttered with minor mods to the same old builds. Now it is cluttered with a miniature flame war though...

Appogee, on 11 September 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

It just seems weird to me to post builds and ask experienced players not to comment on how they could potentially be improved.

You can always offer new ideas instead of modifications of my old build. That would be awesome if y'all did that. But I don't want correction on the old builds because people have different styles of building Mechs (i.e ammo in feet or torso?) and this isn't a style thread. It is a concept thread. Giving examples of how to use a chassis or weapon in conjunction with other weapons or chassis.

Shar Wolf said:

Technically wasn't improving his build, but offering a second one in the same category, as last time I looked, Banshee and Stalker were two very different machines.

If Shar Wolf wanted to post his Stalker build as a sniper that'd be great. But if he just changed around my Banshee and reposted it that'd be (IMO) clutter.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 11 September 2014 - 08:48 AM.

[Appogee]

I appreciate the obvious thought and effort you put into the thread, as I'm sure new players also will.

I particularly like your MC2 thread, which was the only reason why I mentioned it.

I removed my earlier posts from this thread (in order to de-clutter your thread).

Edited by Appogee, 11 September 2014 - 09:16 AM.

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I personally find the assault Raven rather humorous, although I do think it could work. Anyone have any builds they found strangely appealing (i.e the TDR-5SS[ "Photon Storm II")?

Edited by DavidHurricane, 11 September 2014 - 08:55 AM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Haven't actually looked at most of them, as the current trouble Smurfy is having is also clashing with the PCs I have access to.

Did find the CN9 build intriguingly.... familiar though.

Spoiler

Mine ran a (slightly) different loadout though

Edited by Shar Wolf, 11 September 2014 - 09:12 AM.

[990Dreams]

Appogee, on 11 September 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

I removed my earlier posts from this thread (in order to de-clutter your thread).

I appreciate that. Any builds you'd like to share with the new players?

[IraqiWalker]

This is not exactly a new build so much as a piece of advice for when you {You here is the general "you" aimed at everyone, but especially new designers} are building mechs. (I personally spend more time on Smurfy, than I do playing the game, or on any other activity out there. Mech design is what I love, so I enjoy threads like this one, and seeing people come up with crazy builds.)

Push the envelope. Try something crazy. If it looks silly, give it a shot before dismissing it. I scoffed at the CN9-AL BeamWang build when I first saw it. Everyone always recommended slapping an STD 200 or so in the Centy and go zombie. I gave it a shot, and it was the most fun I had with a centurion. It also brought some serious damage numbers too.

So experiment. Don't just go for optimal builds, try something new and different whenever you can. Ever seen a locust running flamers? Sounds hilarious and useless. My DWF-Prime died to a locust with a Flamer, and a couple of small lasers. Yeah, it's funny, and cute, until it chews off your face.

TL;DR: experiment and go crazy, don't dismiss designs without giving them a shot.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 11 September 2014 - 04:40 PM.

[990Dreams]

More bloody Mechs to make builds for... thanks PGI!