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#21 Christof Romulus

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:40 PM

View Post151st Light Horse Regiment, on 21 October 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

If there's a way of screenshotting or providing links to previous matches then I would happily oblige.

Alas, this game has limited (aka zero) functionality in this respect so I cant post anything.


Is ... is he serious? Is this guy serious?

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C'mon meng, you can't expect them to re-invent the wheel every time...

#22 Ghogiel

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:40 PM

View Post151st Light Horse Regiment, on 21 October 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

so you'll just have to accept my word for it.

That's where you are wrong. This is the interweebz, pics or it didn't happen.

#23 Christof Romulus

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:41 PM

View Post151st Light Horse Regiment, on 21 October 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know how to screenshot >_>

I'm on about now. The game is gone, over, closed. There's no way to view the stats for it so you'll just have to accept my word for it.


Oooooohhohohohoohhh no we don't!

#24 Nightmare1

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:42 PM

View PostXarian, on 21 October 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

Here's an example using my Tagging Spider 5V. It was a close match, but we lost.

The end-match results are low enough to discourage people from playing.

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That's actually not bad. I've seen end-of-match results that were a lot worse prior to the patch. I look forward to logging in later this week and trying out this new reward system!

By the way, congrats on getting exactly 100 damage. I don't think that I've ever seen someone do that before! :lol:

View PostGhogiel, on 21 October 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

That's where you are wrong. This is the interweebz, pics or it didn't happen.


Precisely!

#25 Xarian

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:43 PM

View PostChristof Romulus, on 21 October 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:


Is ... is he serious? Is this guy serious?

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C'mon meng, you can't expect them to re-invent the wheel every time...

View PostKitty Bacon, on 21 October 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:


That is more than I get while tagging in my Raven before the patch. And I usually have 400 damage or so. O.o

It's more for me, too, but still dramatically less than any other mech that I use. C-Bills are improved for light scouts. And only for light scouts.

I got 38,000 C-Bills earlier on a losing match. 0 kills, 200 damage, a couple of flanking/lance bonuses. I should at least get enough money back to replace my consumables.

#26 Reitrix

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:43 PM

View PostXarian, on 21 October 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

Here's an example using my Tagging Spider 5V. It was a close match, but we lost.

The end-match results are low enough to discourage people from playing.

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Uhhh .. I'm a bit lost on how you think your c-bills for that was low.
The fact that you did 100 damage in a Spider ... 87k seems extremely reasonable considering you lost the game.

In the old reward system, I would often get much lower rewards than that on a loss in similar conditions.

Hell, i just scored 139k for a loss in my DWF, and i only did 1 kill and 500 damage. Oddly enough, i got a lot of Flanking bonuses ...

#27 EgoSlayer

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:44 PM

View PostJman5, on 21 October 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

Russ is right, your score isn't even mathematically possible unless you were lying.

500 damage x 21 = 10,500
4 assists x 2500 = 10,000
Loss = 10,000

Total = 30,500

Then you don't mention the tons of other bonuses they added.

You didn't get any of these?
  • hit and run
  • lance formation
  • protected medium
  • protect proximity
  • kill most damage
  • Savior kill
  • scouting
  • flanking
  • component destruction
If you didn't get any of these then that means you hit a bunch of different targets. You didn't do much damage to the mechs you got your 4 assists on. How you got 500 damage without any of these makes me think you got a good chunk of damage from a strike and maybe some long range spray and pray with lasers or missiles. Not even 1 component destruction? c'mon.


You forgot to put in the Team kills at -10,000 each ;)

#28 BARBAR0SSA

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:45 PM

Odd I played my first match in a firestarter (NON EMBER)

600 Dmg 1 Kill 8 Assist and I got 200,000k CB + 100k for Premium

I used tag the entire match and scouted, spamming R

Now going to try timber Prime with Premium time: 87k with a loss doing 600 dmg
What a crap match, how about you allow me the ability to BLOCK people with stupid setups like say 2 TAGs on an atlas.
ELO sucks sucks sucks, it doesn't account for anything like that. or all LRMs. A team building system is needed I tell ya.

Edited by shad0w4life, 21 October 2014 - 04:58 PM.


#29 Scratx

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:46 PM

I've had matches where I died really early while doing just about _zero_ damage and basically nothing whatsoever in the match. However... that's maybe one in 500 matches for me. If that many. And I didn't make much less than that. Even my most horrible matches, without premium or hero bonus, are above that.

The OP must pony up with proof, or we rightfully call it a troll post.

#30 Rhaythe

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:51 PM

View Post151st Light Horse Regiment, on 21 October 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know how to screenshot >_>

I'm on about now. The game is gone, over, closed. There's no way to view the stats for it so you'll just have to accept my word for it.



Five bucks says it was a private match.

Edited by Rhaythe, 21 October 2014 - 04:52 PM.


#31 Cranial Enigma

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:53 PM

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The rewards do seem a little low for doing 263 damage, 3 assists. The only thing that really bugs me is I only got 68 exp for the match.... Pretty sure I should have gotten more then 8 exp for those assists.

#32 MandyB

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:55 PM

I just lost a match no kills did 214 damage, 35K c-bills so yea the OP is lying or trolling

#33 KraftySOT

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 04:56 PM

Yeah you really have to work the new system, but people are also posting 450k matches.


I think this is great. Its definitely a hit to people not playing "the right way" but a clear advantage to those who play the way the rewards intend to reward.

So this is a huge thing.

To all the people getting low returns, fix what youre doing because its broke. Theres alot more cbills up for grabs now.

#34 Tuefel Hunden

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

The new reward system is horrible.

#35 Xarian

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

View PostReitrix, on 21 October 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

Uhhh .. I'm a bit lost on how you think your c-bills for that was low.
The fact that you did 100 damage in a Spider ... 87k seems extremely reasonable considering you lost the game.

In the old reward system, I would often get much lower rewards than that on a loss in similar conditions.

Hell, i just scored 139k for a loss in my DWF, and i only did 1 kill and 500 damage. Oddly enough, i got a lot of Flanking bonuses ...

I just posted the screenshot above so the OP knew what they looked like. However, that 87k was not reasonable for that game at all. I was the last one alive. I had a single medium laser, and the match was 12-8. I didn't get assist bonuses on mechs that I tagged (but didn't damage). Basically running around being super scout, with premium time active, and can barely cover consumables? Unacceptable.

That's 50% less than I got before. Want proof? These were taken Sunday (2 days ago).

Repeating: these screenshots were taken before the "fix" in today's patch

Neither one of these mechs had TAG or ECM, and there were no UAV bonuses.

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Edited by Xarian, 21 October 2014 - 05:05 PM.


#36 Scratx

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

View PostCranial Enigma, on 21 October 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

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The rewards do seem a little low for doing 263 damage, 3 assists. The only thing that really bugs me is I only got 68 exp for the match.... Pretty sure I should have gotten more then 8 exp for those assists.


Okay, 26k for 263 damage and 3 assists seems low. However, I suspect what happened is that you scratched 3 guys that died and dumped most of the damage on others who lived. And you didn't collect on much of anything in terms of the new rewards.

Now the OP's post doesn't seem so retardedly trollish.

#37 N0MAD

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

I hope you are prepared to lose alot of the newer player base with this new reward system..

#38 Rhaegor

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

Okay, after playing 20 matches or so, I can say rewards are way down overall. You can have a great game and get uber points, but those mediocre or terrible games you have pay MUCH less. I have gotten as low as 20k, and average like 60k on losses. Wins re not THAT much higher to make up for it.

#39 Brody319

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:05 PM

In my new Atlas, I got 1 kill, 7 assists, and since I was in the assault lance got plenty of those "lance formation" bonuses and flanking. Made 100,000 c-bills. Like in the last styem I would have made like 170K to 200k.

#40 Cranial Enigma

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 05:10 PM

View PostScratx, on 21 October 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:


Okay, 26k for 263 damage and 3 assists seems low. However, I suspect what happened is that you scratched 3 guys that died and dumped most of the damage on others who lived. And you didn't collect on much of anything in terms of the new rewards.

Now the OP's post doesn't seem so retardedly trollish.


Most of the damage I did was dumped into one of those new shiny Atlas-S that wouldn't die (or give me one of his torsos >.> ). Overall I have had a blast with the new system and have had a lot of good games with lots of bonuses, this one particular game was an outlier and since the thread was on this topic I decided to post it. (Also the atlas did die in the end he was my 3rd assist.)

Edited by Cranial Enigma, 21 October 2014 - 05:13 PM.






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