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[IraqiWalker]

Knightcrawler, on 31 December 2014 - 10:45 PM, said:

Sorry Saxie, that presumption has nothing to back it. The question on that topic was asked in the last Town Hall.

Russ confirmed in a tweet that the reset is a possibility. With the main two conditions for it to be really considered being:

A- The clans push too far too fast (which honestly has more to do with IS players only defending and NOT attacking GRRRRR

B- The players will be polled, and the result could determine it.

[Knightcrawler]

Yeah, I knew about the first one. The second one I probably wiped from my memory on purpose: "Do-overs!" It's a possibility, but many people out there act as if it's a certainty. Frankly, CW would be better off building a history.

[ApolloKaras]

Knightcrawler, on 31 December 2014 - 11:15 PM, said:

Yeah, I knew about the first one. The second one I probably wiped from my memory on purpose: "Do-overs!" It's a possibility, but many people out there act as if it's a certainty. Frankly, CW would be better off building a history.

You'll have a tough time convincing the hard core lore folk of that.

[IraqiWalker]

Saxie, on 01 January 2015 - 12:33 AM, said:

You'll have a tough time convincing the hard core lore folk of that.

Those guys should be having cardiac arrest right now, if they will be upset about that. The entirety of CW is stated to be an alternate reality. If there's a do over We might get a three way alliance with Davion, Marik, and Steiner. Which never existed in the lore. Clan Wolf signed a short term Cease-fire with Steiner. If they haven't choked on the froth from rage over that, they would with any new political developments that might happen.

Also, notice how CSJ has a solid chance of never invading Luthien? Can you imagine what would happen to them if the Battle of Luthien NEVER happened?

Edited by IraqiWalker, 01 January 2015 - 12:42 AM.

[LastKhan]

indeed, and Clan Nova Cat not leaving the clans all together Its quite nice to just be a different universe.

[Ax2Grind]

Knightcrawler, on 31 December 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Merc units can switch sides at will, so their long-term goals are fundamentally different than loyalist units. And I'm sure you're aware that you attacked us before our Ras target attack lane was maxed out, so let's not pretend about that. And even if we did both max our Ras targets out, what about hypothetical Kuritan and Steiner targets? And even if we max those out, it's not like they're going to sit on their hands and let their territory fall in the final hours.

It's been an annoyance to us in Clan Wolf that we've had to deal with 3 separate, unprovoked, organized attempts at our space over the past several weeks from merc units that their clans can deny responsibility for. This much should be obvious. Smoke Jaguar had to deal with something similar at the very start, but that has not resumed and will hopefully stay over.

I'm not the most well-versed on BattleTech lore, so there are probably exceptions to what I am about to say. But what I referred to is lame because while clans did feud with each other, they didn't hire outside units to attack someone else for them. Clans wouldn't hire mercs... they'd probably hunt them down. It doesn't make sense for an IS unit to temporarily become a clan unit and yet not obey that clan, or for a merc unit to operate in Clan space, or for an IS resistance unit to be supported by the Clans themselves. However you like to translate these actions into something more "canon," it's nonsensical. Personally I'd rather defend against an IS push on our front, and not because I think it'd be easier (because it wouldn't be).

If any of this came across as angry or belittling, that was not the intention. It's just the way I write. Like I said, they're good games. And I can only hope that I and my trothkin will improve our skills at an accelerated rate as a result.

If you want a more formal or productive discussion, I'm sure you could always speak to any of the clans' leadership. I'm just a Warrior, and there are some topics I have had to avoid.

I've long since given up trying to save face... at least I like to think so. If I win, I win. If I lose, I lose. That's all there is to it. ;-)

I get that your frustrated, but I think you still miss my point...whether you wanted the attack or not there is no actual mechanic in place that is being side stepped to create the attack. It's not trolling, or exploiting anything to take part in the game as it currently stands. I can understand that you may not like that options exist like the one in question (an attack lane between wolf and bear) and I agree with you in a sense...I wanted that attack lane to be on our Kurita border. However I am not pulling an RP/lore anything, simply extending the hand of camaraderie and NOT taking myself too seriously. Bear is still mainly focused on our attacks with FRR...and when we have the time, we look for a border skirmish with Wolf (since there have been little to no need to defend any of the Clan planets from IS). Consider for a moment how focused on the planet MS has been...when there are no defenders have we continued to attack turrets? No. We let it sit at 6% all day yesterday. However GB did make sure to take our FRR target. It is the priority after all. I am simply suggesting Wolf might want to engage a similar policy since they are unwilling to attack Steiner (wish we had an attack lane into Steiner...) of focusing on their FRR planet (and taking it...seriously ; ) and then enjoying Skirmishes on their GB planet when they have the time. We might even want to get organized about it and maybe hold the CGB/CW games where we pit units against each other on the planet!

Keep it fun I say!

With all due respect,

~Ax

[Khomeini]

Ax2Grind, on 01 January 2015 - 01:26 AM, said:

I get that your frustrated, but I think you still miss my point...whether you wanted the attack or not there is no actual mechanic in place that is being side stepped to create the attack. It's not trolling, or exploiting anything to take part in the game as it currently stands. I can understand that you may not like that options exist like the one in question (an attack lane between wolf and bear) and I agree with you in a sense...I wanted that attack lane to be on our Kurita border. However I am not pulling an RP/lore anything, simply extending the hand of camaraderie and NOT taking myself too seriously. Bear is still mainly focused on our attacks with FRR...and when we have the time, we look for a border skirmish with Wolf (since there have been little to no need to defend any of the Clan planets from IS). Consider for a moment how focused on the planet MS has been...when there are no defenders have we continued to attack turrets? No. We let it sit at 6% all day yesterday. However GB did make sure to take our FRR target. It is the priority after all. I am simply suggesting Wolf might want to engage a similar policy since they are unwilling to attack Steiner (wish we had an attack lane into Steiner...) of focusing on their FRR planet (and taking it...seriously ; ) and then enjoying Skirmishes on their GB planet when they have the time. We might even want to get organized about it and maybe hold the CGB/CW games where we pit units against each other on the planet!

Keep it fun I say!

With all due respect,

~Ax

This could work and be very welcome. Honestly it seems CGB is on earlier than wolf is.

[Kyle Wright]

Khomeini, on 01 January 2015 - 01:58 AM, said:

This could work and be very welcome. Honestly it seems CGB is on earlier than wolf is.

I agree friendly border skirmishes would be great. I have my doubts though that MS, CI, and all the random turncoat units would be cordial. There was really no issue when it was STS and CGBI doing our Bear thing cause we stuck to who we are as people. Within the last 4 hours majority of STS members have expressed discussed with the not only the cease fire bein broken, but the amount of spit talking that has been done by teams that just joined in the last week. And I'm not just saying the talk against the enemy team, I'm talking about the blatant spit talking to units like STS by their own teammates that think they are PUG Allstars cause they rocked their elo bracket. having people in a faction like that will only cause issues. And unlike real life cant kick people out so there you go.




AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL YOU WAR MONGERING HEATHENS LOL!

Edited by Kyle Wright, 01 January 2015 - 03:33 AM.

[KuroNyra]

Noesis, on 01 January 2015 - 03:50 AM, said:

{Redacted]

Less and less funny. They could even be insulting in fact.

Edited by John Wolf, 06 January 2015 - 07:19 AM.
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[Red Legs Greaves]

Kyle Wright, on 01 January 2015 - 02:11 AM, said:

I agree friendly border skirmishes would be great. I have my doubts though that MS, CI, and all the random turncoat units would be cordial. There was really no issue when it was STS and CGBI doing our Bear thing cause we stuck to who we are as people. Within the last 4 hours majority of STS members have expressed discussed with the not only the cease fire bein broken, but the amount of spit talking that has been done by teams that just joined in the last week. And I'm not just saying the talk against the enemy team, I'm talking about the blatant spit talking to units like STS by their own teammates that think they are PUG Allstars cause they rocked their elo bracket. having people in a faction like that will only cause issues. And unlike real life cant kick people out so there you go.




AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL YOU WAR MONGERING HEATHENS LOL!

I think it is funny that when one of you thinks it is alright to attack another clan it is fine and dandy. But a smaller clan or merc unit does it and all of sudden it's blasphemy. It doesn't amount to anything but since we didn't consult our wolf and bear masters our birthdays are canceled and they threaten to take the keys to our mechs

[LastKhan]

Noesis, on 01 January 2015 - 03:50 AM, said:

[Redacted]

You must be really butthurt about the ceasefire. Why do you even care? that just means we're going to get to terra first.

Edited by John Wolf, 06 January 2015 - 07:19 AM.
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[sandworm16]

Guys, his pictures add nothing to the current conversation and I would assume are only posted to elicit a reaction (read: trolling). Just ignore them and move on.

[KuroNyra]

sandworm16, on 01 January 2015 - 09:04 AM, said:

Guys, his pictures add nothing to the current conversation and I would assume are only posted to elicit a reaction (read: trolling). Just ignore them and move on.

Ignore Noesis?
Hum... Nah, it's just to hilarious to watch him cry.

[Pariah Devalis]

KuroNyra, on 01 January 2015 - 09:20 AM, said:

Ignore Noesis?
Hum... Nah, it's just to hilarious to watch him cry.

I rather just refer to this: http://mwomercs.com/conduct

Specifically this:

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SPAMMING OR TROLLING


This category includes:

• Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish
  
• Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums
  
• Causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, insulting other posters
  
• Making non-constructive posts
  
• Abusing the Reported Post feature by sending false alarms or nonsensical messages
  
• Numbering a thread, IBTL, TLDR, or any other fad statements

If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:

• Be given a temporary or permanent ban from the forums, depending upon severity

From what I have seen, he puts too much effort in "causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights." It is like he thinks we cannot see the obvious.

Hell, at this point, the thread has been so entirely derailed from its original intent, it now seems to revolve around him, which is probably an ego boost for the guy.

I rather just not actually respond to the guy, and hit that handy dandy report function. You all do realize it is in the power of the community to help steer people (or the community as a whole) to actually being better, right? Just gotta let the mods do their work, but for that to happen we need to draw attention to problems.

Edit:

Oh, and no. I do not believe this particular post is in violation of "DISCUSSING DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS." Do not even go there. Not discussing actions done to an individual. Simply stating our responsibility as a community to exercise the report function when relevant.

That said, I would love it if the thread actually went back on topic. That is, if there is anything more to say. Is there a cease fire? Perhaps. My concern is simply that we focus on the Inner Sphere front and not each other. Not much point to it. I would very much like to continue crafting this alternate reality of the Battletech universe where the Clans actually succeed. Or, at least, get a hell of a lot closer.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 01 January 2015 - 09:39 AM.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Report him and/or use the forum ignore feature to no longer have to worry about his posts if you consider them inane and/or disruptive.

That's one of my favorite features of this forum...the ability to just turn some people "off" for the foreseeable future as they add little constructive thought to the discourse.

[KuroNyra]

Pariah Devalis, on 01 January 2015 - 09:26 AM, said:

I rather just refer to this: http://mwomercs.com/conduct

Specifically this:






From what I have seen, he puts too much effort in "causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights." It is like he thinks we cannot see the obvious.

Hell, at this point, the thread has been so entirely derailed from its original intent, it now seems to revolve around him, which is probably an ego boost for the guy.

I rather just not actually respond to the guy, and hit that handy dandy report function. You all do realize it is in the power of the community to help steer people (or the community as a whole) to actually being better, right? Just gotta let the mods do their work, but for that to happen we need to draw attention to problems.

Edit:

Oh, and no. I do not believe this particular post is in violation of "DISCUSSING DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS." Do not even go there. Not discussing actions done to an individual. Simply stating our responsibility as a community to exercise the report function when relevant.

That said, I would love it if the thread actually went back on topic. That is, if there is anything more to say. Is there a cease fire? Perhaps. My concern is simply that we focus on the Inner Sphere front and not each other. Not much point to it. I would very much like to continue crafting this alternate reality of the Battletech universe where the Clans actually succeed. Or, at least, get a hell of a lot closer.

Ho, he will take sanction after a moment.
I keep reporting each provocative post he make. The question is not:
"Does he gonna get a sanction?"
But
"When will he get a sanction?"


With Hybrid Black and Him. We have a good duo of wannabe-troll. Sadly, they are both using Clan Ghost Bear for there profil.

[CyclonerM]

Saxie, on 01 January 2015 - 12:33 AM, said:

You'll have a tough time convincing the hard core lore folk of that.

It is impossible to follow exactly the lore battles, so i prefer to craft this alternate reality while respecting the foundations of the lore and the events and decisions prior 3049. I would hate a reset, and the possibility of having one is not nearly as sure as many seem to think..

[Pat Kell]

There ya go. Don't like what someone has to say, just report him to the proper authorities and they will come right down from their Ivory Tower to set all us heathens and miscreants in line.....At least Lukoi pointed out that you could just hit the ignore button.

[Pariah Devalis]

Unfortunately the ignore function does not stop them from posting negatively. Does nothing to solve the problem overall. Just solves the problem for the one. Reporting, however, solves it for all.


Theoretically.

[Noesis]

It is interesting to see those who are inacapable of seeing gaming content in relation to the fictional approtionment of CW and propoganda relating to its content in this way. And not suprising it comes from players who have a history of character assasination against myself and players who have in the past also made flippant or inciteful comments to myself in the Dark Born thread or elsewhere to others. I guess some players are only happy when they make these comments against others but perhaps not having maturity to see when this "game" content is directed their way.

Needless to say that again the above image is a propoganda image of noteworthy news to events happening in CW as part of the ficitonal elements of the game and are not intentionally set out to offend any individual player themselves. Something the TOS is set out to protect and fully understand the need not to cross the line in being insulting or disruptive to players with RL considerations.

I see this just as a lame attempt by other players to silence contribution to the game as it is set as propoganda against their war efforts or works against their own interests. I guess some players are only happy when posts only relflect CW efforts in a good light for them and cannot really face the realities of warfare.

To help embody the above post better however so perhaps it is better interpreted, it is to say that with the contained wolves no longer having a truce with the IS then they can expect a visit in the near future from the Steiner brethren. I was merely helping them understand up coming events with planned predictable Steiner attacks. So again something that you can thank me for later.

Why is it I'm unable to join in discussion with these factual elements about the game that relates to fictional elements, people do it all the time? Just becasue its expressed as art doesnt make it any less or more relevant.

I mean representatives from Clan Wolf had pictures of RL animals in sexual congress as a way of representing their stance on CW related events and other non-wolf members kind of saw the humourous side and where able to interpret that it was related to the gaming content? Why should a symbolic cartoon drawing relating to CW events then be any more if not less offensive than that, even though the context is in relation to the game?

Judging from the reactions and comments then presumably this fictional CW propoganda material is working well so I should be able to take a short break to relieve some amount of game related stress for some players who may be unable to distinguish where MWO realities exist in comparison with RL.

Edited by Noesis, 01 January 2015 - 05:24 PM.