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[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 19 March 2016 - 11:46 AM, said:

There still are ones that aren't pissed off already?

I really hope that we at least get an option to buy that beak for MC

Nope, sorry. You want to see the straw that truly breaks the camel's back? Screw with the Founders exclusives, and I promise you, you'll see this place burn like hasn't been seen since the 3pV/Forum Censor fiasco.

What's next, give everyone with a little MC a chance to get the Founder's skin, or the variable Geo from the other Founders?

Yes. Please finish pissing on those who made the game actually happen.

[Juodas Varnas]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 March 2016 - 11:54 AM, said:

Nope, sorry. You want to see the straw that truly breaks the camel's back? Screw with the Founders exclusives, and I promise you, you'll see this place burn like hasn't been seen since the 3pV/Forum Censor fiasco.

But you gotta admit, it'd be pretty bloody entertaining

[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 19 March 2016 - 11:57 AM, said:

But you gotta admit, it'd be pretty bloody entertaining

If one finds stuff like Kill Bill entertaining, then I suppose so. I've never subscribed to the Tarantino school of entertainment, though, so I'll pass.

Carnage, just for the sake of, doesn't interest me.

[wanderer]

Virlutris, on 19 March 2016 - 09:26 AM, said:

Anybody else notice what looks like dual AMS and four torso-mounted energy points (2 below the newly-high-mounted ballistics, 2 under the chin)?

I'm kinda thinking this is a generic-rigged model for the Jester and K2, like a tester-model.

The original K2's actually had 6E + 2B. Notably, they were then trimmed of two energy hardpoints months later.

[MeiSooHaityu]

wanderer, on 19 March 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:

The original K2's actually had 6E + 2B. Notably, they were then trimmed of two energy hardpoints months later.

I still don't think they would inflate the K2 back to early closed beta levels. If they did, does that mean other Catapults gain 2 hardpoints also? Can't just inflate one model (unless the other get stronger quirks to compensate). Not that I would complain.

I'm pretty sure that is just a test model.

[Bishop Steiner]

MeiSooHaityu, on 21 March 2016 - 02:51 AM, said:

I still don't think they would inflate the K2 back to early closed beta levels. If they did, does that mean other Catapults gain 2 hardpoints also? Can't just inflate one model (unless the other get stronger quirks to compensate). Not that I would complain.

I'm pretty sure that is just a test model.

While it is almost certainly a test model, if they are to release the Butterbee as the new CPLT Hero, they sort of need to add 2 hardpoints to the others, don't they? Since BB has 8?

Plus, let's be honest....6 has always been too dang low. Especially when you either have to give up one for TAG, or can't carry it at all, on the missile guys.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 March 2016 - 02:58 AM, said:

While it is almost certainly a test model, if they are to release the Butterbee as the new CPLT Hero, they sort of need to add 2 hardpoints to the others, don't they? Since BB has 8?

Plus, let's be honest....6 has always been too dang low. Especially when you either have to give up one for TAG, or can't carry it at all, on the missile guys.

Well, if they were going to implement hard point inflation on the Catapult, this would be the time to do it.

Speaking of TAG, how many Cat drivers would have LOVED to have a head energy hard point for TAG? I mean, how was that not a thing? Lol . Even in BT lore, you would have thought a mech like the Catapult C1/C4/A1 would have had that. Crazy.

[Bishop Steiner]

MeiSooHaityu, on 21 March 2016 - 03:08 AM, said:

Well, if they were going to implement hard point inflation on the Catapult, this would be the time to do it.

Speaking of TAG, how many Cat drivers would have LOVED to have a head energy hard point for TAG? I mean, how was that not a thing? Lol . Even in BT lore, you would have thought a mech like the Catapult C1/C4/A1 would have had that. Crazy.

Well TAG does essentially nothing for LRMs in TT. but it would have made sense on the arrow IV models.

[DovisKhan]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 March 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:

Yes, it is. But it has proper PPCs again. And the Ballistics are higher.

And thankfully, it WON'T (hopefully) have the beak, which 1) would piss some founders off, and 2) I hate with a passion, anyhow.

I certainly wasn't thinking the K2 was getting 2 more energy (even though it used to have them) or a second AMS.

The beak is the worst part, can't they just make it a new mech and leave us who are happy with the current CAT alone

[MeiSooHaityu]

DovisKhan, on 21 March 2016 - 04:01 AM, said:

The beak is the worst part, can't they just make it a new mech and leave us who are happy with the current CAT alone

Founders beak that will probably stay Founders. It is most likely just shown here to demonstrate how it will interact with the CT energy hard points.

BTW, the beak does look good on the C1(F) when it is the same color as the chassis and not just a black add-on to an olive green colored mech like the test model shown in this thread.

[Virlutris]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 March 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:

Yes, it is. But it has proper PPCs again. And the Ballistics are higher.

And thankfully, it WON'T (hopefully) have the beak, which 1) would piss some founders off, and 2) I hate with a passion, anyhow.

I certainly wasn't thinking the K2 was getting 2 more energy (even though it used to have them) or a second AMS.

So totally not a nitpick there. I mostly wanted to make sure I wasn't misreading the picture.

I'm abundantly aware that you're excited for your PPC barrels

[Bishop Steiner]

DovisKhan, on 21 March 2016 - 04:01 AM, said:

The beak is the worst part, can't they just make it a new mech and leave us who are happy with the current CAT alone

The beak is jsut showing the total geometry including founders. 99% certainty the cplt won't have it.

[CDLord HHGD]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 March 2016 - 04:58 PM, said:

WHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



happy dance happy dance happy dance!!!!!! WOOT WOOT!!!

Some BEAUTIFUL detail on that model though. Come on PGI! I can only get SO HARD!

[Bishop Steiner]

cdlord, on 21 March 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

I can only get SO HARD!

Old age catching up? They got pills for that now.

[Virlutris]

Hey Odanan, friendly inquiry, because I love the mech assignment tables you orovide in the OP:

When are you planning your next update, to include the recent Unseen inclusions?

Edited by Virlutris, 22 March 2016 - 04:26 PM.

[Odanan]

Virlutris, on 22 March 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

Hey Odanan, friendly inquiry, because I love the mech assignment tables you orovide in the OP:

When are you planning your next update, to include the recent Unseen inclusions?

You mean this?

I did the assignment tables for all the Macross Unseen when the rumors of their return started. OK, I didn't include them to the "official table", but you can see this image in the OP, right after that table.

[Virlutris]

Edited: grammar, clarity

Yep that's it. Let me rephrase, because it was poorly targeted:

Are you planning to merge the tables at all?

You don't have to, by any means. As you pointed out (and I failed to ), they're right there in a supplementary table.

I ask only because I like the way the big table has everything in one spot. I just think it'd be neat.

That said, I'm allergic to creating inefficiencies by way of adding tedious busywork to anyone's life.

When it stops being fun, it's not a good hobby anymore. But if it's fun and interesting (or seems worthwhile) at some point ...

Edited by Virlutris, 22 March 2016 - 05:17 PM.

[Odanan]

Virlutris, on 22 March 2016 - 05:00 PM, said:

Edited: grammar, clarity

Yep that's it. Let me rephrase, because it was poorly targeted:

Are you planning to merge the tables at all?

You don't have to, by any means. As you pointed out (and I failed to ), they're right there in a supplementary table.

I ask only because I like the way the big table has everything in one spot. I just think it'd be neat.

That said, I'm allergic to creating inefficiencies by way of adding tedious busywork to anyone's life.

When it stops being fun, it's not a good hobby anymore. But if it's fun and interesting (or seems worthwhile) at some point ...

Sure!
And don't worry - after almost 4 years of this thread, I already have a daily reserved "maintenance" time.

[Odanan]

OPdated!

[Odanan]

These are the updated tables:

Spoiler

And

Remember we are now at ~3053 and new mech designs are popping up all through IS (and Clans). Some mechs not in the list might be released next (like the Bushwacker).