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#14461 jss78

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 10:40 AM

Yeah, Sunday is the seventh day of the week where I live. NO idea how Canadians roll on this. Didn't God rest on the seventh day too Posted Image

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 10:46 AM

View Postjss78, on 05 September 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

Didn't God rest on the seventh day too Posted Image

No, the Biblical seventh day is Saturday. That's why the Jews and some Christians keep the Saturday.

"Keeping" one extra day shows how pious we are, right? ;)

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 10:49 AM

Please be a light, please be a light, please be a light........

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 10:50 AM

View PostRock Roller, on 05 September 2016 - 10:49 AM, said:

Please be a light, please be a light, please be a light........

Wasp or burst!

#14465 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 10:53 AM

View PostOdanan, on 05 September 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Wasp or burst!

Wasps do tend to burst when you shoot them.

I prefer Stingers, though.

View PostOdanan, on 05 September 2016 - 10:46 AM, said:

No, the Biblical seventh day is Saturday. That's why the Jews and some Christians keep the Saturday.

"Keeping" one extra day shows how pious we are, right? Posted Image

Very much this. Technically, the Biblical Sabbath begins on our Friday at sunset, and continues through until sunset on Saturday. Also, funnily enough, Christians are actually under no requirement to observe the Sabbath, as stated many times throughout Paul's epistles. (BTW; this conversation would be grounds for moderation on the HBS forums)

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 10:58 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 September 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:

Wasps do tend to burst when you shoot them.

I prefer Stingers, though.


Very much this. Technically, the Biblical Sabbath begins on our Friday at sunset, and continues through until sunset on Saturday. Also, funnily enough, Christians are actually under no requirement to observe the Sabbath, as stated many times throughout Paul's epistles. (BTW; this conversation would be grounds for moderation on the HBS forums)


Sad that an innocent conversation would be moderated.

#14467 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:01 AM

View PostRock Roller, on 05 September 2016 - 10:58 AM, said:

Sad that an innocent conversation would be moderated.


Welcome to political correctness, where any mention of religion, culture, etc can be construed as hot button provocation.

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:03 AM

While I understand, I refuse to ever agree that it's right.

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:07 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 September 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:

Wasps do tend to burst when you shoot them.

Well, indeed, but in MWO they would be pretty hard to shoot at. ;)

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:09 AM

View PostRock Roller, on 05 September 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

While I understand, I refuse to ever agree that it's right.

You and me both, BUT, there is a simple caveat. Just as on these forums, or at the work place, Freedom of Speech is NOT a right in these areas, and as such, they are entitled to enforce moderation however they see fit. If it does truly prove to be draconian, that will bear itself out when people simply stop posting in said forums.

On top of that, Mod or Member, the sad truth is not one of use can truly objectively look at our own posts or agendas. So what one person may consider "keeping the peace" or "engendering an air of respect" may indeed be more along the lines of legislated morality, one will almost never be able to convince such a person of it, because in their eyes, they are right. And it goes the same with the abuse of our "right to expression" as many will even defend hate speech, and such.

So, it is what it is. It's not meant as an indictment of the forums there. But simply as a PSA to some of our more flamboyant and colorful posters, that what they may be used to flying here, or elsewhere, may well indeed get them unwanted attention, there.

View PostOdanan, on 05 September 2016 - 11:07 AM, said:

Well, indeed, but in MWO they would be pretty hard to shoot at. Posted Image

Naw Bro, all Lights are oversized and DoA now, didn't you get the memo from Camp Cryhard?

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:15 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 September 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:

Wasps do tend to burst when you shoot them.

I prefer Stingers, though.


I'm also partial to STG-3G in tabletop (mainly for the armour). But for MWO I think I'd prefer the Wasp, for the torso hardpoints. Though I'm only really familiar with STG-3R/3G, not sure if some later variants gets torso hardpoints.

Arm-hardpoint only Stingers would suffer of the Phoenix Hawk syndrome aka. "look ma, no hands", only twice as bad.

(Interesting stuff about Saturdays/Sundays. Well, I hope Russ thinks Sunday's the seventh day. Because yeah, I wanna buy a mechpack ... maybe, depending on what it is.)

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:22 AM

View Postjss78, on 05 September 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:


I'm also partial to STG-3G in tabletop (mainly for the armour). But for MWO I think I'd prefer the Wasp, for the torso hardpoints. Though I'm only really familiar with STG-3R/3G, not sure if some later variants gets torso hardpoints.

Arm-hardpoint only Stingers would suffer of the Phoenix Hawk syndrome aka. "look ma, no hands", only twice as bad.

(Interesting stuff about Saturdays/Sundays. Well, I hope Russ thinks Sunday's the seventh day. Because yeah, I wanna buy a mechpack ... maybe, depending on what it is.)


Agreed!!!

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:29 AM

View Postjss78, on 05 September 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:


I'm also partial to STG-3G in tabletop (mainly for the armour). But for MWO I think I'd prefer the Wasp, for the torso hardpoints. Though I'm only really familiar with STG-3R/3G, not sure if some later variants gets torso hardpoints.

Arm-hardpoint only Stingers would suffer of the Phoenix Hawk syndrome aka. "look ma, no hands", only twice as bad.

(Interesting stuff about Saturdays/Sundays. Well, I hope Russ thinks Sunday's the seventh day. Because yeah, I wanna buy a mechpack ... maybe, depending on what it is.)

well, they'd basically be jump capable TDKs.... which ain't all bad.

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:35 AM

View Postjss78, on 05 September 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:


I'm also partial to STG-3G in tabletop (mainly for the armour). But for MWO I think I'd prefer the Wasp, for the torso hardpoints. Though I'm only really familiar with STG-3R/3G, not sure if some later variants gets torso hardpoints.

Arm-hardpoint only Stingers would suffer of the Phoenix Hawk syndrome aka. "look ma, no hands", only twice as bad.

(Interesting stuff about Saturdays/Sundays. Well, I hope Russ thinks Sunday's the seventh day. Because yeah, I wanna buy a mechpack ... maybe, depending on what it is.)

I got a freebie waiting from a contest that I haven't cashed in yet because "BORING" is the only way to describe half the offerings of late... so I am praying it'll be an interesting design, regardless of Weight.

For Lights, I'll be honest none of my "wants'" really I feel are Meta performers.
-Fireball
-Stinger
-Wasp
-Hussar
-Mongoose
-Jackal

covers the only remaining IS Light designs I remotely find interesting.

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:41 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 05 September 2016 - 09:58 AM, said:

Gonna be the Scorpion.
Calling it now!
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*Sigh*... It's probably going to be the Crusader.

Sorry Joudas, but my continued spending on this game relies very strongly on it actually being the Crusader, or the Assassin Posted Image

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:44 AM

View PostCathy, on 05 September 2016 - 11:41 AM, said:

Sorry Joudas, but my continued spending on this game relies very strongly on it actually being the Crusader, or the Assassin Posted Image

Charger and Vulcan probably the only other ones that would spark my interest realistically, though if we (FINALLY) get a new Light, my vote goes for
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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:49 AM

Nice Stinger Bishop, can you do a Wasp too?

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 12:04 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 September 2016 - 11:44 AM, said:

Charger and Vulcan probably the only other ones that would spark my interest realistically, though if we (FINALLY) get a new Light, my vote goes for
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ok that and the wasp would work also, but I'm not holding out any hope of a light

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 12:09 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 05 September 2016 - 11:49 AM, said:

Nice Stinger Bishop, can you do a Wasp too?

CGL already has.

Truth to tell they might have the Stinger in one of the new Sourcebooks, already, too.... but this was based off the classic TT Miniature, which I always felt looked great. Any Stinger, I hope is in this vein, tbh. Even more than in the Macross look.
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Love the proportions (cockpit obviously is partly in the "CT") but really love love love how the legs were done. Kinda knife edge meets bell bottoms.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 05 September 2016 - 12:11 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2016 - 12:44 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 September 2016 - 12:09 PM, said:

CGL already has.

Truth to tell they might have the Stinger in one of the new Sourcebooks, already, too.... but this was based off the classic TT Miniature, which I always felt looked great. Any Stinger, I hope is in this vein, tbh. Even more than in the Macross look.
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Love the proportions (cockpit obviously is partly in the "CT") but really love love love how the legs were done. Kinda knife edge meets bell bottoms.

They really did nail it, with the Wasp and stinger models, those legs though in this game wouldn't last long, so if a miracle happens and there every are these two wonderful mechs I'd be happy with drain pipe legs over bell bottoms as good as they are





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