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#3441 Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:57 AM

Erm...hmm... no! I mean, do you really believe it? After all these months? Give it up! :)

#3442 Sennin

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:28 AM

I speculate that it is likely we will see #20 announced on the 22nd after the Blackjack is released on the 21st. Bryan Ekman has stated in NGNG, Ask the Devs and Reddit that PGI is changing the way they do the new 'Mech announcements, though he did not specifiy just what that means, I took it as they were looking to shore up the delay between announcment and implementation because he also stated the next announcement would be within 30 days. After the 21st the only 'Mech standing between 'Mech 20 and release would be the Orion at least until the Devs get MASC working properly on the Flea. If you think about it 60 days between announcement and release is a good move because it offers a small buffer if something goes wrong before the 'Mech is implemented, offering the opportunity to fix the issue, but not so long as to have everyone lose interest. Just my thoughts, have a great day guys!

#3443 Butane9000

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:46 AM

I have to agree with Sennin. It'll have to be sometime soon as they are running out of announced mechs. Though personally I think it might be sooner as they've always updated the mechs page of the website in waves (one light, medium, heavy and assault). So I think it'll be either tomorrow or the 15th so when the Blackjack releases they can just updated the mech subsection of the website with the Flea, Blackjack, Orion and whatever #20 will be.

#3444 Scrawny Cowboy

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:46 PM

View PostButane9000, on 07 May 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

... and whatever #20 will be.


Which will most certainly be the King Crab! *pinch*

#3445 Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:47 AM

Dream on, Dude! :)

#3446 Deathlike

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:32 AM

I'm starting to think it's gonna be the Annihilator..

Three reasons:

1) Dual AC20 Assault

2) Plenty of dakka

3) Most of the devs probably grew up during the MW3 generation... (of which that mech was prominent)

4) It's 100 tons, and a MC hero variant would make the most profit (it will also cost the most).

Hardpoints of primary variant:
CT - 2 energy (2 med pulse)
LT - 1 ballistic (LBX10)
RT - 1 ballistic (LBX10)
LA - 1 energy (med pulse), 1 ballistic (LBX10)
RA - 1 energy (med pulse), 1 ballistic (LBX10)

It'll sell... it really will.

Edited by Deathlike, 08 May 2013 - 06:44 AM.


#3447 Sennin

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:14 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 08 May 2013 - 06:32 AM, said:

I'm starting to think it's gonna be the Annihilator...


I still believe it will be the Banshee but I would be pleasantly surprised if it was the Annihilator. You could grab some popcorn and watch the nerd rage soars to new heights among the "Ermagerd, nerf it noa!" crowd. Honestly, I would probably die laughing if they announced the Annihilator. Yep, that settles it. Put me down for one Annihilator please.

#3448 Odanan

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:37 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 08 May 2013 - 06:32 AM, said:

I'm starting to think it's gonna be the Annihilator..

Three reasons:

1) Dual AC20 Assault

2) Plenty of dakka

3) Most of the devs probably grew up during the MW3 generation... (of which that mech was prominent)

4) It's 100 tons, and a MC hero variant would make the most profit (it will also cost the most).
It'll sell... it really will.


1) Not dual, possible quad.
2) Too much dakka for the balance sake.
3) I don't think many of the devs played MW3...
4) Banshee is a 95 tonner - not much difference, right?

(and you listed 4 reasons, not 3) :)

#3449 Strum Wealh

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:51 AM

The Annihilator has Lower Arm Actuators in both arms, so it cannot fit an AC/20 in either arm (without weapon-splitting, which we also don't have).
The problem would be the quad-Gauss, quad-UAC/5, quad-AC/10 (standard ANH-1A), dual-AC/20-dual-UAC/5, and other such possibilities.

And then there is the energy boat that is the ANH-1E - quad-PPCs and six Medium Lasers (10 energy hardpoints on a 100-ton 'Mech), and forty-one standard Heat Sinks.
Octo-PPC builds, anyone?

Even without the lore/canon reasons not to add it, the ANH is the kind of 'Mech that lends itself to very powerful and easily-abusable builds - there are arguably-plausible gameplay concerns that would dictate not adding the ANH to MWO.

#3450 Belorion

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 12:00 PM

View PostButane9000, on 07 May 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

I have to agree with Sennin. It'll have to be sometime soon as they are running out of announced mechs. Though personally I think it might be sooner as they've always updated the mechs page of the website in waves (one light, medium, heavy and assault). So I think it'll be either tomorrow or the 15th so when the Blackjack releases they can just updated the mech subsection of the website with the Flea, Blackjack, Orion and whatever #20 will be.


Two things, they stated the release of the next mechs goes: Medium, Heavy, Assault, Light. All of the announces assaults are in game, which makes mech #20 being release some time in July. [I am positive I read this from a pgi source somewhere but I can't find it which makes my statement hearsay at the moment]

Also about 15 days ago it was stated that mech 20 would be announced in the next 30 days.

http://www.reddit.co...ve_director_of/

Edited by Belorion, 08 May 2013 - 12:10 PM.


#3451 Sennin

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:13 PM

View PostBelorion, on 08 May 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:


Two things, they stated the release of the next mechs goes: Medium, Heavy, Assault, Light. All of the announces assaults are in game, which makes mech #20 being release some time in July. [I am positive I read this from a pgi source somewhere but I can't find it which makes my statement hearsay at the moment]

Also about 15 days ago it was stated that mech 20 would be announced in the next 30 days.

http://www.reddit.co...ve_director_of/

The source was Brian Ekman in NGNG #68 http://soundcloud.co...alaxy/ngng-0068 if I remember correctly.

#3452 Sennin

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:23 PM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 08 May 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

The Annihilator has Lower Arm Actuators in both arms, so it cannot fit an AC/20 in either arm (without weapon-splitting, which we also don't have).
The problem would be the quad-Gauss, quad-UAC/5, quad-AC/10 (standard ANH-1A), dual-AC/20-dual-UAC/5, and other such possibilities.

And then there is the energy boat that is the ANH-1E - quad-PPCs and six Medium Lasers (10 energy hardpoints on a 100-ton 'Mech), and forty-one standard Heat Sinks.
Octo-PPC builds, anyone?

Even without the lore/canon reasons not to add it, the ANH is the kind of 'Mech that lends itself to very powerful and easily-abusable builds - there are arguably-plausible gameplay concerns that would dictate not adding the ANH to MWO.


Be thankful Light Gauss Rifles http://www.sarna.net...ght_Gauss_Rifle are not in this timeline. You could easily mount 4 of them along with support weaponry. Tons of fun at maximum range. ;)

#3453 Spheroid

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:58 PM

Enough with these King Crab/Annihilator fantasies. They are too rare, too faction specific. The logical choices are Zeus, Cyclops or Victor.

#3454 Odanan

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:03 PM

View PostSpheroid, on 08 May 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

Enough with these King Crab/Annihilator fantasies. They are too rare, too faction specific. The logical choices are Zeus, Cyclops or Victor.


And Banshee, which will be the next assault mech. ;P

View PostBelorion, on 08 May 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

Also about 15 days ago it was stated that mech 20 would be announced in the next 30 days.


So, Banshee announced in the next 2 weeks? Nice!

#3455 SgtMagor

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:31 PM

View PostOdanan, on 08 May 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:


And Banshee, which will be the next assault mech. ;P



So, Banshee announced in the next 2 weeks? Nice!

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#3456 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:01 PM

Banshee next?!?!?!
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This guy approves! (see if you can catch the change)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 09 May 2013 - 10:55 AM.


#3457 Sephlock

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:09 PM

View PostSgtMagor, on 08 May 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

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#3458 Sennin

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 08 May 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

Banshee next?!?!?!
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This guy likes it (see if you can catch the change)


Lol, I see what you did there. :)

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 02:19 AM

View PostSpheroid, on 08 May 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

Enough with these King Crab/Annihilator fantasies. They are too rare, too faction specific. The logical choices are Zeus, Cyclops or Victor.


One word: HIGHLANDER

Maybe it was two...

Either way, THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR BALLISTIC SEAFOOD!

#3460 SgtMagor

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 04:06 AM

the King Crab seems to have lost to the Devastator in the poll, but with a redesign it might change peeps mind about having 1,Posted Imagebut this just rocks,Posted Image

Edited by SgtMagor, 09 May 2013 - 04:07 AM.






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