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#801 MayGay

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:30 AM

I'd still love to see a Bushwhacker, also only the Robotech stuff is unseen the rest is reseen, and a lot of the Robotech stuff is also redesigned, also a Thug, and Zeus would be nice to seen

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:36 AM

<S> Possible thought on the Heavy.

Guillotine anyone? As an alternative to the Grasshopper I mean. They're actually very similar in design. Both 70 tons, both jump capable, both sport a large laser in one of the arms and a quartet of medium lasers plus a missile system. The only difference is the location of the missile hardpoint and the type of missiles that are carried normally (Grasshopper is LRM's in the head, Guillotine is SRM's in the CT I believe if memory serves me).

Just figured I'd toss that out there as an alternative to the Grasshopper. I actually prefer the look of the Guillotine over the Grasshopper but I do like both 'mechs and would love to see either of them to be honest.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:44 AM

Indeed, the Guillotine would look better in game (it has a very distinguish design), but isn't it much less common than the Grasshopper?

PS: I find the Guillotine much more efficient, as a mech. (I just hate LRM-5s).

Edited by Odanan, 02 November 2012 - 06:17 PM.


#804 No use for a name

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:51 AM

no bushwacker love? i want that mech!

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:01 AM

View PostNo use for a name, on 02 November 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

no bushwacker love? i want that mech!

Bushwacker is a lot younger mech. We'll get it later.

#806 Odanan

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

View PostAdridos, on 02 November 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Bushwacker is a lot younger mech. We'll get it later.


If we get ever. I know the MW3 fans would love to see it in the game, but it is really limited in terms of variants.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:57 PM

I'm hoping the next heavy mech is the Orion (iconic), but what about the Lancelot (TRO: 3025 Revised)?

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lancelot
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Edited by Maverick01, 02 November 2012 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:57 PM

Back to the timeline issue...

We should be getting all...ALL... the mechs right? just not the unseen one's unless their redesigned and under a different name.

So the discussions about the order in which they come out is just plain academic.

I think I need to ask the question, which is how long does it take to get a mech in the game?
I mean their already on paper, we know what their stats are and the renders are already made...

So what are the steps in making them come to life...1.2.3.4 etc. etc...

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:21 PM

All of them? There are hundreds of 'Mechs in the game. We won't be getting all of them.

View PostFire for Effect, on 29 June 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

A locust... thats almost as bad as the urbanmech.

Problem is since the unseen were the first mechs designed these are the most versatile and typically have the most variants (Marauder has about a dozen until 3075). These are also quite iconic for Battletech. Later mech designs were most of the time designed just to fit certain special roles and gaps that the more versitile Mechs could barely cover.

so best would be to just introduce all unseen into the game ;-)

Like . . .the Locust?

Edited by Bleary, 02 November 2012 - 11:22 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:45 PM

View PostPaul BlackJack Cady, on 02 November 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

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We should be getting all...ALL... the mechs right? just not the unseen one's unless their redesigned and under a different name.

...

You realize that Battletech has just over 500 unique canonical 'mech chassis, right?

Edited by Telthalion, 02 November 2012 - 11:47 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 03:01 AM

View PostMaverick01, on 02 November 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

I'm hoping the next heavy mech is the Orion (iconic), but what about the Lancelot (TRO: 3025 Revised)?

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lancelot
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It's a cool mech, has 4 variants. But it is uncommon, with at least one variant extinct and 3 of the 4 variants are basically the same thing. Besides, energy boats are boring.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 03:22 AM

View PostPaul BlackJack Cady, on 02 November 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

Back to the timeline issue...

We should be getting all...ALL... the mechs right? just not the unseen one's unless their redesigned and under a different name.

So the discussions about the order in which they come out is just plain academic.

I think I need to ask the question, which is how long does it take to get a mech in the game?
I mean their already on paper, we know what their stats are and the renders are already made...

So what are the steps in making them come to life...1.2.3.4 etc. etc...


Not all! It takes time and effort to add them, so every one counts.

Mechs that won't be in the game at all:

1- Mechs with less than 3 variants;
2- Mechs too uncommon (like the extinct SL designs) or faction restricted (like the Wolf Dragoons-only);
3- Quad (probably not, as suggested by answers of the devs), LAMs;
4- Mechs too similar in role of some mech already in;
5- Maybe all the Unseen/Reseen;
6- Mechs that don't fit in the timeline (I suppose the game will stop to be updated in about 10 years max - so mechs from 3059 on will be left out).

Besides, the devs suggested that they have 32 IS mechs planned. Considering they will add at least 20 clan mechs (that's the clan omnimechs from 3050) and maybe more (as they hinted there will be a Hunchback IIC), we will have no less then 52 mechs in the game. Not to mention the clan omni mechs from 3055 and 3058.

Doing the math, for the current pace, we will have mechs for the next 41 months (one per month).

About the time it takes for each mech, the Cicada was announced in 09/may/2012 and added in the 31/oct/2012 update. So, it takes about 5 to 6 months to have a mech ready.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:59 AM

View PostBleary, on 02 November 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

All of them?  There are hundreds of 'Mechs in the game.  We won't be getting all of them.

Like . . .the Locust?
definitely he fit perfectly into the role of...VICTIM

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 07:11 AM

I'm thinking the Black Knight would be a better 75 ton mech to have in MWO, then the Orion. The Orion is just a downgraded Atlas and does not offer anything new in terms of gameplay. However, the Black Knight could be announced with the C3 implementation as a command mech. I would love to see this mech concept art from Alex! The Black Knight also appeared in MechWarrior 4.

The Black Knight is rare, but so was the Highlander.
The Black Knight also meets the minimum variant requirement.

Edited by Maverick01, 03 November 2012 - 07:15 AM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 07:47 AM

View PostMaverick01, on 03 November 2012 - 07:11 AM, said:

I'm thinking the Black Knight would be a better 75 ton mech to have in MWO, then the Orion. The Orion is just a downgraded Atlas and does not offer anything new in terms of gameplay. However, the Black Knight could be announced with the C3 implementation as a command mech. I would love to see this mech concept art from Alex! The Black Knight also appeared in MechWarrior 4.

The Black Knight is rare, but so was the Highlander.
The Black Knight also meets the minimum variant requirement.


All 4 possible Black Knight variants have not only the same number of energy hard points, the same location of these hardpoints and basically the same weapons in this hardpoints. They are the same thing!
If you want a 75 tons energy boat, why not pick the Awesome?

PS: MW4 is just an advanced Mech Assault. Don't bring it up. :P

View PostThontor, on 03 November 2012 - 07:20 AM, said:

Right now, they can do about one mech per month, they hope to get that to two mechs per month at some point
why does it take that long?

see below:

The incredibly detailed, beautifully illustrated, insanely intricate birth of a video game Mech


This!!!

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 07:49 AM

Champion is the mech I'm waiting for.Posted Imagehttp://www.sarna.net/wiki/Champion

Edited by ManDaisy, 03 November 2012 - 08:02 AM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 08:08 AM

King Crab
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#818 Odanan

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 08:15 AM

View PostManDaisy, on 03 November 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

Champion is the mech I'm waiting for.Posted Imagehttp://www.sarna.net/wiki/Champion


Same as Dragon.

View PostMuso ka, on 03 November 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

King Crab
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Hopefully.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

Sweet! When do the omnis come out! Anyone.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 08:25 AM

Champ kicks dragons but anyway you don't know what your talking about!





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