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#8841 Tkhaw

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 05:54 PM

Its was on Gencon last week...


*Just realised that this was the 9000th post!, Keep it going!*

Edited by Tkhaw, 26 August 2014 - 06:03 PM.


#8842 Odanan

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 05:55 PM

View PostCycKath, on 26 August 2014 - 05:29 PM, said:


Well, it would give the 85 ton bracket a jumping design...

There is the Crockett/Katana...

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 05:59 PM

View PostOdanan, on 26 August 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

There is the Crockett/Katana...



I prefer the shogun though, the crockett looks like a assaultish jager to me :)

#8844 CycKath

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 06:00 PM

View PostOdanan, on 26 August 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

There is the Crockett/Katana...


Admittedly both the Shogun and CrockTana have issues with enough variants available in time-frame :)

#8845 Tkhaw

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 06:02 PM

View PostCycKath, on 26 August 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:


Admittedly both the Shogun and CrockTana have issues with enough variants available in time-frame :lol:



Very true... One can only hope :)

#8846 Carrie Harder

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 06:12 PM

In other news, this thread broke 9000 posts!



#8847 Tkhaw

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 06:17 PM

Congratz Op!

#8848 Odanan

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:31 AM

Did you see the new "Clan Loyalist" faction logo? It reminds you something?

View PostOdanan, on 04 June 2014 - 03:38 AM, said:

I'm not a graphic artist and I don't want to offend the PGI artist's work, but this is how the Clan logos should be:

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And a bonus: (for players of other Clans)

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Keep on this track, PGI. :P

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:35 AM

Now we just need the Bishop Steiner's Urbie in the game...

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 02:54 AM

Forums are back! Great!

Now PGI, would you focus in what really matters: the next IS chassis? :P

(Mauler! Mauler! Mauler!)

#8851 Wieland

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:02 AM

View PostOdanan, on 30 August 2014 - 02:54 AM, said:

Forums are back! Great!

Now PGI, would you focus in what really matters: the next IS chassis? :P

(Mauler! Mauler! Mauler!)

ZEUS !

#8852 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:23 AM

It can be only Mauler !
Or Hammerhands....oh I would love to own Hammerhands http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hammerhands !

#8853 Steinar Bergstol

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 04:49 AM

Hatamoto? No? Okay, Mauler then. The Lyrans don't really want their Zeus. :)

#8854 Strum Wealh

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 05:26 AM

For a 'Mech as iconic as it is, the Zeus is really quite overdue...

View PostStrum Wealh, on 17 September 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:


Well, let's look at what variants the Zeus could have available (based on timeline and tech appropriateness):
  • ZEU-5T: x1 ERPPC (LA), x1 ERLL (LT), x2 MLas (LT, CT), Artemis-LRM-15 (RA); FF and DHS
  • ZEU-5S: x1 UAC/5 (LA), x1 ERLL (LT), x2 MLas (LT, CT), Artemis-LRM-15 (RA); DHS
  • ZEU-6S: x1 AC/5 (LA), x1 LLas (LT), x2 MLas (LT, CT), LRM-15 (RA)
  • ZEU-6T: x1 PPC (LA), x1 LL (LT), x2 MLas (LT, CT), LRM-15 (RA)
  • ZEU-9S: x1 ERPPC (LA), x1 ERLL (LT), x2 MPLas (LT, CT), CASE (RT), LRM-15 (RA); FF and DHS
  • ZEU-9S-DC: x1 ERPPC (LA), x1 ERLL (LT), x2 MPLas (LT, CT), Command Console (HD), CASE (RT), LRM-15 (RA); FF and DHS
All variant mass 80 tons and have a top speed of 64.8 kph.

None of the variants are jump-capable, nor do they normally mount AMS, BAP, or ECM.
Though, the latter is unlikely to affect the ability to equip AMS or BAP, and the existence of a two -DC variants (the 9S-DC linked above, and the ZEU-6S-DC variant that sacrifices one of the Medium Lasers) could indicate the possibility of an ECM-capable variant.

According to the record sheets in RS:3039U (pgs. 249-252 of the 500-page PDF), none of the ZEU-5T, ZEU-5S, ZEU-6S, or ZEU-6T variants possess Hand Actuators, though all possess Lower Arm Actuators in both arms.

If the Zeus were to be implemented in MWO, I would imagine that it would be the ZEU-6S and/or ZEU-6S-DC (the "basic"/"default" variant), the ZEU-9S and/or ZEU-9S-DC ("the 3050 variant(s)"), and the ZEU-6T that would be implemented.

The -5S could be easily built from the minimum required hardpoints of the -6S (with the latter being the most common variant), and the -5T could be easily built from the minimum required hardpoints of both the -6T (the other Succession Wars variant) and the -9S (the "recovered LosTech" variant).
Moreover, the -9S could be easily built from the -9S-DC & vice versa (by removing/adding the Command Console and adding/removing a DHS).

Your thoughts?


#8855 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 06:42 AM

View PostJudgeDeathCZ, on 30 August 2014 - 03:23 AM, said:

It can be only Mauler !
Or Hammerhands....oh I would love to own Hammerhands http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hammerhands !

never gonna see it.


(Sorry, did I just step on your fun?)

#8856 Marmon Rzohr

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 07:23 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 30 August 2014 - 06:42 AM, said:

never gonna see it.


(Sorry, did I just step on your fun?)


I bet we will eventually. It's a design that's quite popular, IMHO. Any potential OP-ness would be probably overshadowed by the Dire Whale - which is in the game. And can do a casual 90+ alpha damage with decent heat management and big sustained DPS.

Edited by Marmon Rzohr, 30 August 2014 - 07:24 AM.


#8857 SgtMagor

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 08:09 AM

this is the only Zeus for me http://www.sarna.net...Zeus_ZEU-6Y.jpg

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 08:18 AM

View PostMarmon Rzohr, on 30 August 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:


I bet we will eventually. It's a design that's quite popular, IMHO. Any potential OP-ness would be probably overshadowed by the Dire Whale - which is in the game. And can do a casual 90+ alpha damage with decent heat management and big sustained DPS.

I refer to the Hammerhands, actually. Obsolete, essentially extinct mech not resurrected til the Jihad.

Mind you, I rather like the mech, so would not cry if it was in game, just pointing out it is probably even less likely than the Urbie to ever make it.

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 08:21 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 30 August 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

this is the only Zeus for me http://www.sarna.net...Zeus_ZEU-6Y.jpg

if that is the look of the Zeus that eventually makes it, I will have to challenge you to a trial of grievance when it obviously should be based off the Zeus-X
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:)

#8860 SgtMagor

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 08:30 AM

no argument here :) but Zeus X=3119! http://www.sarna.net...01px-Zeus_X.jpg





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