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#8961 CycKath

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 03:27 PM

View PostNathan Foxbane, on 08 September 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

The Emperor is extinct until 3057 and does not have three variants until 3069 (where it gains five). Safe money is on the Cyclops or Zeus. The Mauler is a long shot without some serious reconsideration of the 3 variant rule (would be great if they did).


Only reason Mauler to trump things like the Cyclops or Zeus is much the same reason as the Mad Cat or Bushwacker love, Mauler appearing in older games (MechWarrior 2: Mercs cover for one) and the cartoon means people recognize it.

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 06:09 PM

View PostCycKath, on 08 September 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Only reason Mauler to trump things like the Cyclops or Zeus is much the same reason as the Mad Cat or Bushwacker love, Mauler appearing in older games (MechWarrior 2: Mercs cover for one) and the cartoon means people recognize it.

I'm only considering the Mauler because the devs confirmed once the Mauler was being worked by the art department.

Citations of King Crab are also recurrent, but it has an issue with the AC/20 not fitting in the arms.

Zeus will probably take the next assault spot. By releasing the Vindicator, the devs stated they are focusing on the very common, iconic designs, not worrying much with what the mech will actually add to the game.

Edited by Odanan, 08 September 2014 - 06:14 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:13 PM

1) Next week a new Clan Pack of 4 Mechs(1 per Weight Class) will be announced and available for purchase soon. They will be released in the same staggered schedule as the "Wave 1" Clan Mechs.

2) BONUS! Anyone who bought the top Clan Wave 1 Pack and buys the New Clan Pack, will get an additional Mech that they can use immediately.

3) GMAN posted following on Outreach/r(Official MWO Reddit) after Russ's Town Hall:

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Clan Omnimechs available in 3050
Crossed out means they're not gonna be in the pack for whatever reason (MASC, variants, etc.), italicized are the ones I think would be best for the pack, bolded are the most likely ones.
Light Options:
  • Mist Lynx
  • Fire Moth
  • Arctic Cheetah
Medium Options
  • Battle Cobra
  • Ice Ferret
  • Huntsman
  • Viper
  • Stooping Hawk
  • Pouncer
  • Shadow Cat
  • Coyotl
Heavy Options
  • Ebon Jaguar
  • Hellbringer
  • Woodsman
  • Lupus
  • Mad Dog
  • Crossbow
Assault Options
  • Executioner
  • Naga
  • Kingfisher
  • Gargoyle

My Comments:
-The fluff for the Artic Cheetah mentions that it was seen during the Battle of Luthien, so the Devs may save it for that Special Event.
- I added a crossout for the Fire Moth because its Primary has a MASC.
- Like the Artic Cheetah , the Huntsman 's fluff states that it was first seen during the Battle of Luthien
- The Pouncer is basically a big Adder , so I am not as convinced that it will be in Wave 2.
- Crossbow is not likely to be chosen, especially with people waiting on the Loki, Vulture, and Cauldron-Born.
- Executioner has a MASC in its primary config, so it is also out.

Based on this, I will bet on the Mist Lynx, Viper,Mad Dog or Hellbringer(with the other one being the "Bonus Mech"), and Gargoyle.

#8964 Tkhaw

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:27 PM

Time to let your imagination run wild!

I expect the new clan pack to encompass the other 8 in the original TRO 3050.

Great news

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:45 PM

Russ stated that the Pack will be 4 Mechs(well 5 counting the bonus Mech). I suspect we will then get some time until they announce "Wave 3" mid-late next year.

I also think we should start a discussion on iconic mechs that lack three variants that should be in the game.The Mauler only has two time-specific variants but has been confirmed, so I think we should make arguments why certain Mechs should be included.

I am thinking of Panther and Enforcer , but there are many other examples.

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 11:04 PM

View Postphalanx, on 08 September 2014 - 10:45 PM, said:

Russ stated that the Pack will be 4 Mechs(well 5 counting the bonus Mech). I suspect we will then get some time until they announce "Wave 3" mid-late next year.

I also think we should start a discussion on iconic mechs that lack three variants that should be in the game.The Mauler only has two time-specific variants but has been confirmed, so I think we should make arguments why certain Mechs should be included.

I am thinking of Panther and Enforcer , but there are many other examples.



wave 3 is going to most likely be the IIC mechs since he said those will come later

and then i assume probably by that time they might just have a clanbuster mechs for IS more then likely

Edited by Dan the Ice Man, 08 September 2014 - 11:05 PM.


#8967 CycKath

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:19 AM

https://twitter.com/...246005091770369

Russ had usual patch preview - We're getting Sparky as the Griffin hero! Very nice.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 04:18 AM

Ohh I love this thread!

#8969 Ovion

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 04:23 AM

Looking forward to this.

#8970 Odanan

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 05:32 AM

Hearing the Town Hall #2 (go to 10 minutes for the mechs part):

- Still no perspective for the Macross reseen/unseen.
- New Clan pack to the announced in one week;
- Delivered December, 15 (but they will try to somehow deliver earlier, maybe November 1st);
- 4 Clan mechs (one of each class);
- 5th mech gifted for big buyers of either Clan packs: to be playable September 23.

#8971 SgtMagor

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 05:47 AM

thought this would be a good design for the Gargoyle http://i.imgur.com/umepg.jpg

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 01:45 PM

So, where is the excitement?

The Clan Reinforcement Pack should be:

- Mist Lynx
- Viper or Ice Ferret
- Mad Dog or Hellbringer
- Gargoyle

I think they will choose the Viper over the Ice Ferret (because it is not humanoid) and will give the Mad Dog as the free mech.

Edited by Odanan, 09 September 2014 - 01:45 PM.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 02:10 PM

Lupus free mech? Posted Image

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 02:26 PM

View PostSgtMagor, on 09 September 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

thought this would be a good design for the Gargoyle http://i.imgur.com/umepg.jpg

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 02:31 PM

About the Lupus, I don't know... the invading clans probably don't have a single Lupus. It is a very good looking mech, tough.

From Sarna:

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The 'Mech was a great success and even after it was surpassed by new designs it served on for decades in Clan Coyote's second line formations.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 02:50 PM

View PostOdanan, on 09 September 2014 - 02:31 PM, said:

About the Lupus, I don't know... the invading clans probably don't have a single Lupus. It is a very good looking mech, tough.

From Sarna:

those shoulder hitboxes would be uber NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM!!!

#8977 CycKath

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:27 PM

I'm assuming Clan Pack 2 will be:
Light - Mist Lynx (Koshi)
Medium - Viper (Dragonfly)
Heavy - Hellbringer (Loki)
Assault - Gargoyle (Man O' War)

Mad Dog (Vulture) being the exclusive fifth design, though I suppose the Loki with its A-Pods (problems) and ECM might lead it to be the freebee to help drive sales...

But, I cannot stress enough my intense and endless disappointment that we aren't getting an IS 'Mech pack and that mood of the Town Hall was so weighted towards Clan 'Mechs being much of their future focus :(

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:36 PM

Yea I hoped for IS defend mech pack or smthing like that :( .

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:58 PM

I don't see either the Hellbringer or Mad Dog as the exclusive mech.. They are just too iconic. I was hoping BOTH would be in the next Clan lineup, but I guess they had to save something for wave 3.

Maybe the secret mech is a Hunchback IIC!

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:59 PM

View Postcdlord, on 09 September 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

I don't see either the Hellbringer or Mad Dog as the exclusive mech.. They are just too iconic. I was hoping BOTH would be in the next Clan lineup, but I guess they had to save something for wave 3.

Maybe the secret mech is a Hunchback IIC!

Urbanmech IIC





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