


#8981
Posted 09 September 2014 - 04:14 PM

#8982
Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:46 PM
cdlord, on 09 September 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:
Maybe the secret mech is a Hunchback IIC!
It isn't an exclusive in a sense. It just means it will be the last mech to be out for c-bills I bet while only people who meet the requirement get a early pre order version (by early I mean before the other stuff for the pack as mentioned)
#8983
Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:59 PM
Nightshade24, on 09 September 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:
Probably be a "heroed" version, like the Invasion mechs in general. But yeah, nothing exclusive like that cna really stay in a F2P game
#8984
Posted 10 September 2014 - 12:34 AM
Bishop Steiner, on 09 September 2014 - 09:59 PM, said:
how would a 'hero' clan mech occur?
The best idea I can think is all omni pods for MC prices besides CT which will be a very cheap 'hero' mech while each omnipod adds to a bonus for the c-bills and such.
Unless it is a clan BATTLEmech or mk IIC variant.
But I doubt IIC will come soon.
Edit: If it's a kodiak for some magical reason I will kill someone to get it.
Edited by Nightshade24, 10 September 2014 - 12:36 AM.
#8985
Posted 10 September 2014 - 01:33 AM
Then the Omni Pods will work one of 3 ways:
1(most likely imo)
Omni Pods only available with the purchase of the Mech.
2 (still pretty likely)
Omni Pods available at equivalent MC prices.
3 (incredibly unlikely)
Omni Pods available for c-bills.
#8986
Posted 10 September 2014 - 01:50 AM
Maybe a Clan Hero gets the ususal 30% C-Bill boost, special camo, and then has certain quirks only found on the hero mech.
Maybe the mech get a bonus to torso twist agility or speed. It would need to counter to it as well, maybe a nerf to range of motion or internal structure, etc...
Basically just something that makes it unique vs the other chassis available.
#8987
Posted 10 September 2014 - 02:22 AM
#8988
Posted 10 September 2014 - 04:20 AM
It cannot be a new chassis because we couldn't level it out.
It cannot be a variant not otherwise available to others (I mean it technically can, but unlikely).
#8989
Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:44 PM
Anyways, hope you guys are doing well and off to Star Citizen. I actually enjoyed discussing 'Mechs with your guys. Some of you are lore wizards.
edit: BTW I'm calling the next 'Mech announcement as the Cyclops.
Edited by Maverick01, 10 September 2014 - 07:55 PM.
#8990
Posted 10 September 2014 - 08:25 PM
Nathan Foxbane, on 04 September 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:
Of course the Exterminator, the personal ride of Kerensky's brother, never got a non-stealth IIC variant and he gave them their precious Zellbrigen.
I think it is mostly because Kerensky has become a, to be frank, cult figure. And speaking of his Orion, why did he leave that behind the first place? Better yet, what was Theodore Kurita thinking piloting it instead of hoarding it in a museum or in the palace for bragging rights?
The Orion was scrapped as being too much effort to fix after it got the royal beating on the drive to reclaim Terra from the Usurper. Being without ego-tripping (unlike his children), he naturally chucked the thing and drove something else. And Kerensky really did drive a stock Orion. No fancy stuff for him, he rolled in what the line troops did- though being League machinery, he obviously had access to the usual specialty munitions for things like the LRM launcher. At that point, it was a museum piece that would have taken obscene amounts of time and effort to restore to combat-effective.
Y'know, like if a Successor House was building something for it's heir or the like.
#8991
Posted 10 September 2014 - 09:03 PM
wanderer, on 10 September 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:
The Orion was scrapped as being too much effort to fix after it got the royal beating on the drive to reclaim Terra from the Usurper. Being without ego-tripping (unlike his children), he naturally chucked the thing and drove something else. And Kerensky really did drive a stock Orion. No fancy stuff for him, he rolled in what the line troops did- though being League machinery, he obviously had access to the usual specialty munitions for things like the LRM launcher. At that point, it was a museum piece that would have taken obscene amounts of time and effort to restore to combat-effective.
Y'know, like if a Successor House was building something for it's heir or the like.
Um, he had a modified 1K sporting a Gauss Rifle and a Snub-Nose PPC. The Protector in MWO is basically the same mech save trading a little armor to use a standard PPC instead
#8992
Posted 10 September 2014 - 09:12 PM
wanderer, on 10 September 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:
The Orion was scrapped as being too much effort to fix after it got the royal beating on the drive to reclaim Terra from the Usurper. Being without ego-tripping (unlike his children), he naturally chucked the thing and drove something else. And Kerensky really did drive a stock Orion. No fancy stuff for him, he rolled in what the line troops did- though being League machinery, he obviously had access to the usual specialty munitions for things like the LRM launcher. At that point, it was a museum piece that would have taken obscene amounts of time and effort to restore to combat-effective.
Y'know, like if a Successor House was building something for it's heir or the like.
ON1-K Kerensky
The personal BattleMech of Commanding General Aleksandr Kerensky during the war against the Usurper. Designers removed the LRM-15 and Autocannon/10 to make room for other equipment, adding an experimental Snub-Nose PPC in the left torso and an Artemis IV Fire Control System for the SRMs. The right torso has a Gauss Rifle in the former location of the autocannon. The medium lasers from the original model are retained. Finally, ferro-fibrous armor and CASE are used for added protection.
taken from Sarna
#8993
Posted 10 September 2014 - 10:00 PM
CycKath, on 10 September 2014 - 09:03 PM, said:
Um, he had a modified 1K sporting a Gauss Rifle and a Snub-Nose PPC. The Protector in MWO is basically the same mech save trading a little armor to use a standard PPC instead
Yep. It got field-upgraded during the war- but it started life as a bog-standard -K. Much of that gear got pasted in along the way to Terra, much like say Christifori's Penetrator got it's Clantech laser mounts- but the "factory specs" in it's cockpit system were classic IS-tech machinery. By the point the chassis got jettisoned in the Periphery as junk, it'd been stripped down to the frame and was certainly missing all of it's equipment and armor.
#8994
Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:11 AM
CN9-A was a workhorse, so the chassis probably had some history.
#8995
Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:21 AM
Shar Wolf, on 11 September 2014 - 08:11 AM, said:
CN9-A was a workhorse, so the chassis probably had some history.
See chapter 22 of Warrior: En Garde; Justin Xiang (operating undercover for the FedSuns) first acquires the Centurion that is to become Yen-Lo-Wang with a "loan" from Kym Sorenson (also an agent of the FedSuns) while on Solaris, and the 'Mech is introduced already in its modified configuration (AC/20 in place of AC/10, no missiles, etc).
From what the Sarna page says, the original Centurion factory along the FWL/CapCon border was destroyed in 2845 (during the Second Succession War), and the Centurion was out of active production until a new factory was built on New Avalon (the FedSuns capital world) for Corean Enterprises in 3012, with Jalastar Aerospace receiving a license to build a second Centurion factory on Panpour in 3047.
With Yen-Lo-Wang's first fight on Solaris being on March 20, 3027, there is a good chance - albeit not a total certainty - that Yen-Lo-Wang was originally built at the New Avalon facility (and perhaps might have even been fresh-off-the-assembly-line) and delivered to Justin (who, in addition to being a loyal FedSuns operative merely posing as otherwise, was also a close personal friend of the First Prince himself) on Solaris as part of the operation.
#8996
Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:28 AM
Strum Wealh, on 11 September 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:
I remember that part - but I also remember that they introduce the mech as being rebuilt... or modified, as Justin looks up at it.
I always figured that he had done the AC swap around then, to make it a more viable dueling mech for Solaris, as they do not mention the change in ACs until toward the end of his first fight in it.
They also mention that the Centurion was not a well thought of mech (partially due to the AC being known to jam frequently) so the other fighter was more than willing to let him shoot him with it... until it hit him.

Got any source for the idea that it was modified with the AC20 before he got it?
(Not doubting you outright, but the book could go either way as it needed a LOT of repair when he got it)
#8997
Posted 11 September 2014 - 10:09 AM
Shar Wolf, on 11 September 2014 - 08:28 AM, said:
I remember that part - but I also remember that they introduce the mech as being rebuilt... or modified, as Justin looks up at it.
I always figured that he had done the AC swap around then, to make it a more viable dueling mech for Solaris, as they do not mention the change in ACs until toward the end of his first fight in it.
They also mention that the Centurion was not a well thought of mech (partially due to the AC being known to jam frequently) so the other fighter was more than willing to let him shoot him with it... until it hit him.

Got any source for the idea that it was modified with the AC20 before he got it?
(Not doubting you outright, but the book could go either way as it needed a LOT of repair when he got it)
That chapter is the first mention of the Centurion that is to be known as Yen-Lo-Wang in the book, and it is introduced as "[Justin's] first fight outside the Vindicator owned by his partner, Fuh Teng".
The same chapter also mentions that Justin was expecting his opponent to expect a standard CN9-A loadout ("He'll recall that the Luxor autocannon in the right arm often jams. He won't try to sneak up on me because one of my two medium lasers covers my rear arc. He knows we both pack LRMs, so he'll probably expect a long-range duel."), and then mentions "...the Pontiac Autocannon/20 for which he'd sacrificed his LRMs and installed in place of the Luxor...".
In fact, the chapter opens with "...Tung Yuan appeared from inside the tall 'Mech's right arm, removed his welding goggles, and snapped the armored panel into place...", indicating that either modification or maintenance of YLW had just been completed before its first-ever fight with Justin on Solaris.
Given the importance of the operation to the FedSuns, and Justin & Kym's vagueness regarding the channels & cost of acquisition ("I hope you got it cheap.", "Cheap enough.", "It's only a loan, you realize."), and the modifications that let Justin control the YLW's left arm with his own prosthetic left arm ("Through the cable hanging from his left wrist, he guided the 'Mech's huge left hand.", which would non-standard hardware & software interfaces), and Justin's connections to Hanse Davion, it stands to reason that YLW could be a new-construction unit (as opposed to entrusting an important operation & one of the Suns' important operatives to an older machine).
However, the text seems to indicate that YLW started life as a standard CN9-A, but it is already modified into its custom configuration by the time the chapter begins (e.g. when the reader is first introduced to the 'Mech).
#8998
Posted 11 September 2014 - 10:14 AM
Strum Wealh, on 11 September 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:
From what the Sarna page says, the original Centurion factory along the FWL/CapCon border was destroyed in 2845 (during the Second Succession War), and the Centurion was out of active production until a new factory was built on New Avalon (the FedSuns capital world) for Corean Enterprises in 3012, with Jalastar Aerospace receiving a license to build a second Centurion factory on Panpour in 3047.
With Yen-Lo-Wang's first fight on Solaris being on March 20, 3027, there is a good chance - albeit not a total certainty - that Yen-Lo-Wang was originally built at the New Avalon facility (and perhaps might have even been fresh-off-the-assembly-line) and delivered to Justin (who, in addition to being a loyal FedSuns operative merely posing as otherwise, was also a close personal friend of the First Prince himself) on Solaris as part of the operation.
All said though, would say, that that is a very easily traced trail for such an important subterfuge. Since the model of Mech was not really important for his mission, I would submit that the mech was probably just a market purchased CN9-A. I doubt Kym had the money outright for it, but with her wealth and noble connections, getting the credit to obtain it would have been relatively easy on Solaris.
#9000
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