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[Hoax415]

No I listened to it live and for sure he did not say both choices were slam dunk.

He said something like:
-no poll for light and medium
-I know what the choices will be and you will like them
-X is for sure a slam dunk

then he started to say both were and changed his mind and said Y is going to be really cool and people will like it.

They were not both on the same "this is just 100% for sure what people want" status but I can't remember which weight class was which.

Edited by Hoax415, 19 October 2014 - 09:52 AM.

[Odanan]

Hoax415, on 19 October 2014 - 09:51 AM, said:

No I listened to it live and for sure he did not say both choices were slam dunk.

He said something like:
-no poll for light and medium
-I know what the choices will be and you will like them
-X is for sure a slam dunk

then he started to say both were and changed his mind and said Y is going to be really cool and people will like it.

They were not both on the same "this is just 100% for sure what people want" status but I can't remember which weight class was which.

Interesting...

[Odanan]

Jump to 1:09 for info about the medium and Light mechs in the IS Pack.

[Odanan]

Both are "grand slam" choices. "The light in particular I think is home run and the medium is close to." (1:10)

Edited by Odanan, 19 October 2014 - 11:25 AM.

[Odanan]

Honestly, between the UrbanMech, Javelin and Mongoose, I can't think there is a home run other than the Urbie.

[C E Dwyer]

Cimarb, on 17 October 2014 - 09:25 PM, said:

If you jump ahead a few years, sure, but the Timber Wolf is just a Marauder with Clan tech, replacing the AC with missile racks in some configurations. Other configurations, the missile racks are deleted, and it could pass for a Marauder easily.

why the timberwolfs Is designation is Madcat, as it was seen as a Marauder, Catapult hybrid

[C E Dwyer]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 October 2014 - 05:24 PM, said:

And hey, every Light can run around with big guns in MWO. and move a lot faster while doing so.

yup and thats why open customisation as open as MWO sucks as there is no place for certain mechs in the game, until the Light ppc of the spider in a few years time the panther should be the only light capable of mounting one

[SgtMagor]

I think this the point some peeps have been bringing up about sized hardpoints, certain mechs that are not supposed to able to carry certain weapons wont be able to do so. but then you have a chassis like the Hollander with a gauss rifle the weapon is about 1/3 the weight of the whole mech throws the whole argument out the window!

[A banana in the tailpipe]

I'm just patiently waiting for that IS package to hit before December so I can pick up a king crab without having to dirty myself with clan mechs.

[Barantor]

I wonder if folks would be upset if the light was the Hermes http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hermes and the medium was the Hermes II http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hermes_II ?

Both are FWL mechs though with some export models to the Draconis Combine.

[C E Dwyer]

lockwoodx, on 19 October 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:

I'm just patiently waiting for that IS package to hit before December so I can pick up a king crab without having to dirty myself with clan mechs.

i'm curious as to what it might comprise

[A Man In A Can]

Odanan, on 19 October 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

Honestly, between the UrbanMech, Javelin and Mongoose, I can't think there is a home run other than the Urbie.

True that.

And between the Assassin, Clint, Hermes II, Sentinel, Vulcan, Whitworth and Hoplite, the only "close to home run" I can think of is the Assassin.

WELL NOW....I certainly didn't see the Panther or the Enforcer coming......but did that cat really need to be let out of the bag now?

Edited by Mechwarrior Mousse, 20 October 2014 - 10:03 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mechwarrior Mousse, on 19 October 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

True that.

And between the Assassin, Clint, Hermes II, Sentinel, Vulcan, Whitworth and Hoplite, the only "close to home run" I can think of is the Assassin.

While

agrees

would like some words with you.

[Ovion]

Updated my Build-an-Urby-guide if anyone cares:

Quote

From the tabletop, we can see that a Stock Urbanmech would be the following in MWO:

Spoiler

Urbanmech (30):

Inner Sphere:
UM-R60 (2675)
UM-R60L (2925)
UM-R63 (3050)
UM-R68 (3062)
UM-R69 (3063)
UM-R70 (3066)
UM-AIV (3072)
UM-R80 (3076)

As described in fluff:
UM-R50 (Pre 3025) (No-Arms variant - shortlived, considered a failiure)
UM-R60C (Pre 3050) (Replaces 1 Heat Sink with 1 Machine Gun and 1/2T of MG Ammo)

Clan:
Urbanmech IIC (2849)
Urbanmech IIC 2 (3070)

------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-R60 - Stock:
Standard Structure
192pts of Standard Armour (96pts TT)
18/22/16/16/8/16/8/20/20/24/24
STD60 +7 Heat Sinks
1E, 1Bm 0M
1 Ac/10 (RA) + 1T Ammo (RT)
1 Small Laser (LA)
2 Jump Jets
------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-R60C - Stock:
Standard Structure
192pts of Standard Armour (96pts TT)
18/22/16/16/8/16/8/20/20/24/24
STD60 +6 Heat Sinks
1E, 2B, 0M
1 Ac/10 (RA) + 1T Ammo (RT)
1 Small Laser (LA)
1 Machinegun (LT) + 1/2T Ammo
2 Jump Jets
------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-R60L - Stock:
Standard Structure
128pts of Standard Armour (64pts TT)
12/16/8/12/6/12/6/12/12/16/16
STD60 +6 Heat Sinks
1E, 1B, 0M, 2JJ
1 Ac/20 (RA) + 1T Ammo (RT)
1 Small Laser (LA)
2 Jump Jets
------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-R63 - Stock:
Standard Structure
192pts of Standard Armour (96pts TT)
18/22/16/16/8/16/8/20/20/24/24
STD60 +7 Heat Sinks
2E, 1B, 0M, 2JJ
1 LB 10-X AC (RA) + 1T Ammo (RT)
1 Small Laser (LA)
1 Small Pulse Laser (LT)
2 Jump Jets
------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-R68 - Stock:
Requires MRM launcher
------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-R69 - Stock:
Requires IS U-AC/10 and ERSL
------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-R70 - Stock:
Requires R-AC/5, IS ERML, ERSL
------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-AIV - Stock:
Requires Arrow IV Missile Launcher, IS ERML, Small Cockpit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
UM-R80 - Stock:
192pts of Standard Armour (96pts TT)
18/22/16/16/8/16/8/20/20/24/24
STD60 +8 Heat Sinks
4E, 0Bm 0M, 1ECM, 2JJ
1 PPC (Right Arm)
1 Small Pulse Laser (LT)
1 Small Laser (LA)
1 TAG (RA)
1 Guardian ECM (LT), 1 BAP (RT)
2 Jump Jets
------------------------------------------------------------------------

This gives us the following summary:
UM-R60: 1E, 1Bm 0M, 2JJ
UM-R60C: 1E, 2B, 0M, 2JJ
UM-R60L: 1E, 1B, 0M, 2JJ
UM-R63: 2E, 1B, 0M, 2JJ
UM-R68: N/A
UM-R69: N/A
UM-R70: N/A
UM-AIV: N/A
UM-R80: 4E, 0Bm 0M, 1ECM, 2JJ


From there, we can build equivalent in the game!
Using a Spider SDR-5K / SDR-Anansi Base:
_{Using a STD100 Engine +Endosteel to account for the weight difference of the STD100 instead of STD60}
UM-R60: UM-R60 / UM-R60
UM-R60C: UM-R60C / UM-R60C
UM-R63: N/A / UM-R63
UM-R63C: UM-R63C / UM-R63C

Firestarter FS9-H / Ember Base:
_{Using a STD100 Engine, extra weight accounted for within the extra 5 Tons.}
UM-R60L: UM-R60L / UM-R60L

Using a Spider SDR-5D Base:
_{Using a STD100 Engine +Endosteel to account for the weight difference of the STD100 instead of STD60}
UM-R80: UM-R80 (Couldn't fit 4 Energy, so have an extra heat sink)


'Updated' Builds, using the upgrades and mods that would be available to the Urbie in MWO.
_{Only using the Hardpoints available shown in the Stock Loadouts section, or it's not really an Urbie anymore is it!}
UM-R60-M: UM-R60-M ('Modern' - AC10 +3T ammo, ML)
UM-R63-S: UM-R63-S ('Superior' - LBX10 +4T ammo, ML)
UM-R22: UM-R22 (2AC2 +3T ammo, ML)
UM-R60L+: UM-R60L+ (AC20 +3T ammo, 2ML)
UM-R60L++: UM-R60L++ (AC20 +4T ammo, 2ML)

[A Man In A Can]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 October 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

would like some words with you.

Okay, okay! Jeez. Your 40t worth of flip-flopped E + B hardpoints plus jets on all your variants at least puts you ahead of the rest of the competition. But that Assassin has had far more face-time with the fans, and E + M hardpoints on a chassis that can run slightly faster and jump slightly more than your max capacity is going to be tough to beat.

[Metus regem]

Cathy, on 19 October 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

why the timberwolfs Is designation is Madcat, as it was seen as a Marauder, Catapult hybrid

Close, when the Timber Wolf was first encountered, IS combat computers (bitching Betty) would be flipping between calling it a MAD- and a CAT-, never really settling on one....

That's the story as far as I know it.

[CycKath]

Yes, PGI (or was it IGP) did a nice little nod to that in one of the Clan announcement vids

[Nathan Foxbane]

Metus regem, on 19 October 2014 - 05:34 PM, said:

Close, when the Timber Wolf was first encountered, IS combat computers (bitching Betty) would be flipping between calling it a MAD- and a CAT-, never really settling on one....

That's the story as far as I know it.

Cathy, on 19 October 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

why the timberwolfs Is designation is Madcat, as it was seen as a Marauder, Catapult hybrid

Both of these are true. Grinner (Phelen Kell's WLF-1 Wolfhound) could not decide which 'Mech the Timber Wolf was. The designation "Mad Cat" was given by Comstar as a simple mash up of the names and highly indicative of its combat ability.

[Hoax415]

Odanan, on 19 October 2014 - 10:55 AM, said:

Jump to 1:09 for info about the medium and Light mechs in the IS Pack.

Odanan, on 19 October 2014 - 11:22 AM, said:

Both are "grand slam" choices. "The light in particular I think is home run and the medium is close to." (1:10)

Odanan, on 19 October 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

Honestly, between the UrbanMech, Javelin and Mongoose, I can't think there is a home run other than the Urbie.

Yeah I'm not sure what could be grand slam homerun besides the Urbanmech as a timeline appropriate IS light. It'd be super extra cruel if it was the MASC-less Flea after all this time.

Thanks for looking it up, I knew he backtracked on one of the two weight classes.

Btw, I'm pretty sure that means the Crab isn't the medium.

Edited by Hoax415, 19 October 2014 - 06:16 PM.

[Odanan]

Hoax415, on 19 October 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

Yeah I'm not sure what could be grand slam homerun besides the Urbanmech as a timeline appropriate IS light. It'd be super extra cruel if it was the MASC-less Flea after all this time.

Ohh boy. If it is the Flea (with or without MASC), it will be the most disappointing event in the MWO's history.