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[Wieland]

I wonder about the variants for the King Crab.

KGC-000
The Prime Variant

KGC-0000
A bit less armor than 000.

KGC-000b
Royal only. So far Royal variants where a no go.

KGC-010
All left with Kerensky on the Exodus. Knowledge about it non existant in the Inner Sphere.

KGC-001
Clanbuster. 3052 Comstar only.

All other variants are even later than Clanbuster and use unavailable tech.

That leaves only 2 possible variants, KGC-000 and KGC-0000, that are not much different, unless PGI doesnt care about lore anymore.

Edited by Wieland, 20 September 2014 - 03:20 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wieland, on 20 September 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

I wonder about the variants for the King Crab.

KGC-000
The Prime Variant

KGC-0000
A bit less armor than 000.

KGC-000b
Royal only. So far Royal variants where a no go.

KGC-010
All left with Kerensky on the Exodus. Knowledge about it non existant in the Inner Sphere.

KGC-001
Clanbuster. 3052 Comstar only.

All other variants are even later than Clanbuster and use unavailable tech.

That leaves only 2 possible variants, KGC-000 and KGC-0000, that are not much different, unless they dont care about lore.

All Royals went with Kerensky too.

If anything, because the hardpoints are different, and because it doesn't technically count as a Royal, I would say the KGC-010 makes the most sense. They are going to have to fudge the rules somewhere, and this is the least homogenous choice, thus, IMO, the best.

Also, if they really were 100% stuck on lore, we would not have TWolf-S (3050 introduction) or see HGN-732 Highlanders, which have been extinct in the IS since the Second Succession War, and do not resume construction until 3057 or 3058?

See also:
BLR-3S (3050)
STK-5M/5S (3050)
AS7-S (3050)
LCT-3M (3050)

etc...... only a year off, but still.......

Also, anyone know why the BJ-3 was introduced in 3042..... but the BJ-2 in 3052?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 20 September 2014 - 03:31 PM.

[Wieland]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 September 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

All Royals went with Kerensky too.

If anything, because the hardpoints are different, and because it doesn't technically count as a Royal, I would say the KGC-010 makes the most sense. They are going to have to fudge the rules somewhere, and this is the least homogenous choice, thus, IMO, the best.

Also, if they really were 100% stuck on lore, we would not have TWolf-S (3050 introduction) or see HGN-732 Highlanders, which have been extinct in the IS since the Second Succession War, and do not resume construction until 3057 or 3058?

See also:
BLR-3S (3050)
STK-5M/5S (3050)
AS7-S (3050)
LCT-3M (3050)

etc...... only a year off, but still.......

Also, anyone know why the BJ-3 was introduced in 3042..... but the BJ-2 in 3052?

They could not produce new 732 and destroyed 732 could only be rebuild into 733 because of missing Gauss, but a not destroyed 732 would theoretically still exist. Since the Helm Memory Core you can bet that some 733 would also be refit to 732.

We had 3050 already.

The BJ-2 simply took longer from design into production.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wieland, on 20 September 2014 - 04:30 PM, said:

They could not produce new 732 and destroyed 732 could only be rebuild into 733 because of missing Gauss, but a not destroyed 732 would theoretically still exist. Since the Helm Memory Core you can bet that some 733 would also be refit to 732.

We had 3050 already.

The BJ-2 simply took longer from design into production.

musta missed the announcement? Clock wa reset, and don't start til CW. Welcome to 3049 (again)

[Ens]

http://mwomercs.com/...ault-mech-poll/

VOTE ZEUS NAO!

[Ovion]

Ens, on 21 September 2014 - 10:57 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...ault-mech-poll/

VOTE ZEUS NAO!

Had to vote Cyclops.
Need a 90 tonner that isn't a Banshee....

[Bishop Steiner]

Ovion, on 21 September 2014 - 11:09 PM, said:

Had to vote Cyclops.
Need a 90 tonner that isn't a Banshee....

easily done. Banshee is 95.

Highlander, is 90.

Ens, on 21 September 2014 - 10:57 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...ault-mech-poll/

VOTE ZEUS NAO!

eh.....


NO?

Voted Cyclops.

[Nathan Foxbane]

Funny that the clans just decided to skip the 90 ton class and go straight to 95 in their first wave. What's up with that?

[Ovion]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 September 2014 - 11:11 PM, said:

easily done. Banshee is 95.

Highlander, is 90.


eh.....


NO?

Voted Cyclops.

90T that isn't the Highlander then?
Iunno, I wanted one mech of each weight, but the Banshee and Highlander don't really tickle my fancy.

Needs replacements.

[Bishop Steiner]

Nathan Foxbane, on 22 September 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

Funny that the clans just decided to skip the 90 ton class and go straight to 95 in their first wave. What's up with that?

in fairness, they really skipped 80 tons, too. HAve you looked at the specs on a Gargoyle? Timberwolves cry from laughing so hard.

[Odanan]

Voted Zeus (but wanting the Charger).

[Nathan Foxbane]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 September 2014 - 09:12 AM, said:

in fairness, they really skipped 80 tons, too. HAve you looked at the specs on a Gargoyle? Timberwolves cry from laughing so hard.

Clans decided to make a better Charger. Ended up with similar results to the original.

[CDLord HHGD]

Odanan, on 20 September 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

Holy Crab!

Be an interesting mechanic if due to it's girth it couldn't converge it's ACs. You have two reticles flanking the CT reticle.

[Ovion]

No convergence wouldn't make any sense, being the Kit was designed to put those twin 20s into a single point to cripple or destroy a mech in one volley.

Bishop Steiner, on 22 September 2014 - 09:12 AM, said:

in fairness, they really skipped 80 tons, too. HAve you looked at the specs on a Gargoyle? Timberwolves cry from laughing so hard.

as ugly as it is, I'm actually looking forward to the Gargoyle

Edited by Ovion, 23 September 2014 - 08:37 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Ovion, on 23 September 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

No convergence wouldn't make any sense, being the Kit was designed to put those twin 20s into a single point to cripple or destroy a mech in one volley.

as ugly as it is, I'm actually looking forward to the Gargoyle

so am I, but under no delusion it will be very good. =/ I just am a MechMasochist

[CDLord HHGD]

Ovion, on 23 September 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

No convergence wouldn't make any sense, being the Kit was designed to put those twin 20s into a single point to cripple or destroy a mech in one volley.

I didn't say it was a good mechanic... Just an interesting one (perhaps for other mechs not meant to pack the awesomeness of dual heavy ballistics). Meh.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Odanan, on 20 September 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

Holy Crab!

I just drooled all over my phone...and I don't even like Assaults lol. Looks wicked awesome in the concept art.

[Odanan]

Nathan Foxbane, on 22 September 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

Funny that the clans just decided to skip the 90 ton class and go straight to 95 in their first wave. What's up with that?

They didn't skip the 90 tonner, it was just built earlier and mostly surpassed by better models (with XL Engine).

Clan Smoke Jaguar and Clan Ghost Bear did use it in the early invasion, tough.

[Odanan]

BTW, the Zeus won the poll in the last minute. Congrats, Lyrans!

First mech for the IS "Counter Strike" Pack chose.

• Assault: Zeus
  
• Heavy: ? (hopefully a poll with Lancelot, Grasshopper and Guillotine)
  
• Medium: ? (hopefully a poll with Clint, Sentinel and Vulcan)
  
• Light: ? (hopefully a poll with UrbanMech, Mongoose and Javelin)

So, Russ, can you make another poll, please?

Edited by Odanan, 25 September 2014 - 06:00 AM.

[Nathan Foxbane]

Odanan, on 24 September 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

BTW, the Zeus won the poll in the last minute. Congrats, Lyrans!

First mech for the IS "Counter Strike" Pack chose.

• Assault: Zeus
  
• Heavy: ? (hopefully a poll with Lancelot, Grasshopper and Guillotine)
  
• Medium: ? (hopefully a pool with Clint, Sentinel and Vulcan)
  
• Light: ? (hopefully a pool with UrbanMech, Mongoose and Javelin)

So, Russ, can you make another poll, please?

FTFY.

Here's to hoping for the 6Y.

It really is a pity the light category is so populated by Unseen as its staples in this time period and some of the more interesting 'Mechs run afoul of technical difficulties, limited or nigh identical variants, or effective (if not outright) extinction. The Mercury is effectively extinct and has MASC to add insult to injury. The Panther, Wolfhound, Thorn, and Hussar suffer from effectively identical variants though the Hussar's Clanbuster variant will save it from this eventually. The Firefly has limited IS variants in addition to its even more limited deployment and less said about the Falcon and Hornet the better with the Flea having gone MIA.

I am a bit surprised the Hermes II did not make your medium list.

It does hurt that so many fun chassis are left in the dust due to having less than 3 variants in the time line. Hopefully PGI will revamp the efficiency and skill tree eventually and the 3 variant restriction will not be needed.