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#9561 CycKath

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 12:12 PM

Could be worse, could be april fools surprises...

#9562 Crotch RockIt

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 12:49 PM

Any recent gossip on upcoming hero mechs? We still don't have one for Locust, Shadowhawk, Wolverine, or Thunderbolt. I'm very hopeful for another good 55 ton hero soon.

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:01 PM

Screw the 55 tonner.
Give us our Locust hero. :P

It should have a big old smiley face on the damn thing.

#9564 Metus regem

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:02 PM

View PostOvion, on 29 October 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:

Screw the 55 tonner.
Give us our Locust hero. :P

It should have a big old smiley face on the damn thing.


The Locust doesn't need a Hero version, as every pilot that climbs into one, is a hero with a death wish. :)

#9565 Ovion

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:08 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 29 October 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

The Locust doesn't need a Hero version, as every pilot that climbs into one, is a hero with a death wish. :)
Yeah, but I want to be a hero with a death wish and a 30% C-Bill bonus. :)

#9566 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:19 PM

View PostOvion, on 29 October 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

Yeah, but I want to be a hero with a death wish and a 30% C-Bill bonus. :)

Indeed....

#9567 Metus regem

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:20 PM

View PostOvion, on 29 October 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

Yeah, but I want to be a hero with a death wish and a 30% C-Bill bonus. :)


Fine, you can have your Locust hero, when I can have my Kodiak or War Hammer IIC....

#9568 Ovion

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:40 PM

I have no problem with either of those mechs, but we're only shy heroes for the Locust, Shadowhawk, Wolverine and Thunderbolt and Clan Mechs as stated above.

The King Crab is getting a Hero at release, and from next feb/march onwards we'll be adding the Panther, Enforcer, Grasshopper and Zeus to the 'no heroes' list.

But for now, it's likely we'll see those 4 remaining Heroes before long.

So roll on the smiley suicide death machine. :)

#9569 Metus regem

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 02:00 PM

View PostOvion, on 29 October 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

I have no problem with either of those mechs, but we're only shy heroes for the Locust, Shadowhawk, Wolverine and Thunderbolt and Clan Mechs as stated above.

The King Crab is getting a Hero at release, and from next feb/march onwards we'll be adding the Panther, Enforcer, Grasshopper and Zeus to the 'no heroes' list.

But for now, it's likely we'll see those 4 remaining Heroes before long.

So roll on the smiley suicide death machine. :)


I think you might have an issue with the Kodiak or the War Hammer IIC.... both are battle mechs with clan tech. So both should be as modifiable as IS battle mechs, with the advantages of having the weight and space savings of being clan...

#9570 Ovion

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 02:25 PM

Oh I know.
But I'd have one too ;)
(And I'm sure they'd balance it somehow)

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 02:31 PM

View PostOvion, on 29 October 2014 - 02:25 PM, said:

Oh I know.
But I'd have one too ;)
(And I'm sure they'd balance it somehow)


The question is how, would they balance Clan Battle Mechs? Doing what they have with IS Battle mechs, with the clan advantages, brakes them in terms of power level, and would also render the Omni-mechs inferior, yet treating them like omni-mechs would be just as wrong, as they do not have omni-pods.

So I would love to know how they would go about balancing them, and it leaves me with very curious.

#9572 Ovion

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 02:36 PM

Yeah.

I have, no idea.

Personally, I'd like to see an entire revamp of the system in some ways, introducing tech levels, certain things locked on all mechs, and/or a BV with BV limits.

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 03:01 PM

View PostCrotch RockIt, on 29 October 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Any recent gossip on upcoming hero mechs? We still don't have one for Locust, Shadowhawk, Wolverine, or Thunderbolt. I'm very hopeful for another good 55 ton hero soon.

Wolverine Hero please :D That would probably be the only Hero left that I would pay full price for.

#9574 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 03:06 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 29 October 2014 - 01:20 PM, said:


Fine, you can have your Locust hero, when I can have my Kodiak or War Hammer IIC....


You mean Hammerhands

cause if the warhammer was never developed (and because of harmony gold) the hammerhands would still be beinbg used during the invasion

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 03:06 PM

View PostOvion, on 29 October 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

Yeah, but I want to be a hero with a death wish and a 30% C-Bill bonus. :)


That's why I love my Phoenix Locust, pointless dakka spraying as I belt around the field laughing maniacally AND now with a 30% C-Bill Bonus.

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 04:17 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 29 October 2014 - 02:31 PM, said:


The question is how, would they balance Clan Battle Mechs? Doing what they have with IS Battle mechs, with the clan advantages, brakes them in terms of power level, and would also render the Omni-mechs inferior, yet treating them like omni-mechs would be just as wrong, as they do not have omni-pods.

So I would love to know how they would go about balancing them, and it leaves me with very curious.

Just have them work like Omnimechs with locked pods - you cannot switch them - and problem solved. That would mean they would be inferior to both IS Battlemechs and Clan Omnimechs, though, so you would have to give them good quirks or at least allow them to modify engine size (just not type, similar to how the armor is done)

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:46 PM

View PostOdanan, on 23 October 2014 - 02:12 PM, said:

All Teh Mech Packs.

Agreed, though most likely PGI will release some as standalones. Some more to add on would be every single mech from MC1/2/Gold/Omnitech or Wolfman's expansions, MWLL mechs, MW1/2/3/4 mechs, list continues on. Blood Asp would be tasty in my opinion and could make a tech expansion to both sides later on (Heavy Lasers, ATMs, Long Toms, Arrows, etc.) I would like some of those Liao mechs mentioned (plus Sha Yu the ultra laser boat.) :D

#9578 Odanan

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 11:03 AM

For those who missed, this is pretty impressive: List of new quirks.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:18 PM

Loremasters, please?

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New Hero 'Mech's – Our next Hero mechs release will be a pair of mechs representing a famous husband and wife in two iconic old school mechs.

Release Date: Nov 18th Patch.

Oh, I think I know!
Grayson Carlyle's Shadow Hawk + Lori Kalmar's Locust, from the first Battletech book, Decision at Thunder Rift.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:18 PM

hah...called that , too!





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