

#10361
Posted 07 March 2015 - 06:27 AM
#10364
Posted 08 March 2015 - 09:22 AM
Bishop Steiner, on 06 March 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:
Remember Vlad Ward's Executioner form Phelan's Trial of Position? Had over 42 tons of weaponry......on a mech that carries about 27.
Metus regem, on 06 March 2015 - 04:12 PM, said:
That or the wrighter ment Dire Wolf, but autocorrect made it Executioner?
"The Executioner appeared in his aft arc. Phelan cursed the loss of his secondary monitor and shunted a data feed to his auxiliary monitor. Immediately, the computer filled it with an information scan of the OmniMech. He saw that each arm mounted a Gauss rifle and each side of the torso was arrayed with one large laser and two medium lasers." - Blood Legacy, ch. 19
"With his altered priorities in place, the Executioner's battle computer cycled through his lasers before it got to his remaining Gauss rifle. The pulse laser in the shattered right breast stitched a half-dozen steaming holes in the Lone Wolf's right leg. The other two pulse lasers both melted a deep hole in Phelan's right flank. The Executioner's large laser lanced its red beam through the left side of the Lone Wolf's chest as Phelan brought his machine back under control and turned it to face Vlad." - Blood Legacy, ch. 19
x2 Clan Gauss Rifles (12t each)
x2 Clan ER Large Lasers (4t each)
x4 Clan Medium Pulse Lasers (2t each)
Vlad's 'Mech is packing 40 tons of weaponry, before ammunition for the Gauss Rifles is taken into account. By contrast, the Gladiator only has 26.50 tons of pod space.

With this being the same Vlad that eventually fell for (and was willing to actually go to war over) Katherine Steiner-Davion, maybe he did something crazy like de-Omni-zed his Gladiator in order to pack in even more weaponry?

Or, more likely, Stackpole was like, "Well, this Executioner is only, like, five tons lighter than this Dire Wolf, so it totally probably has more-or-less the same carrying capacity, right?"

#10365
Posted 08 March 2015 - 09:26 AM
Strum Wealh, on 08 March 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:
"With his altered priorities in place, the Executioner's battle computer cycled through his lasers before it got to his remaining Gauss rifle. The pulse laser in the shattered right breast stitched a half-dozen steaming holes in the Lone Wolf's right leg. The other two pulse lasers both melted a deep hole in Phelan's right flank. The Executioner's large laser lanced its red beam through the left side of the Lone Wolf's chest as Phelan brought his machine back under control and turned it to face Vlad." - Blood Legacy, ch. 19
x2 Clan Gauss Rifles (12t each)
x2 Clan ER Large Lasers (4t each)
x4 Clan Medium Pulse Lasers (2t each)
Vlad's 'Mech is packing 40 tons of weaponry, before ammunition for the Gauss Rifles is taken into account. By contrast, the Gladiator only has 26.50 tons of pod space.

With this being the same Vlad that eventually fell for (and was willing to actually go to war over) Katherine Steiner-Davion, maybe he did something crazy like de-Omni-zed his Gladiator in order to pack in even more weaponry?

Or, more likely, Stackpole was like, "Well, this Executioner is only, like, five tons lighter than this Dire Wolf, so it totally probably has more-or-less the same carrying capacity, right?"


#10366
Posted 08 March 2015 - 09:33 AM
Strum Wealh, on 08 March 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:
"With his altered priorities in place, the Executioner's battle computer cycled through his lasers before it got to his remaining Gauss rifle. The pulse laser in the shattered right breast stitched a half-dozen steaming holes in the Lone Wolf's right leg. The other two pulse lasers both melted a deep hole in Phelan's right flank. The Executioner's large laser lanced its red beam through the left side of the Lone Wolf's chest as Phelan brought his machine back under control and turned it to face Vlad." - Blood Legacy, ch. 19
x2 Clan Gauss Rifles (12t each)
x2 Clan ER Large Lasers (4t each)
x4 Clan Medium Pulse Lasers (2t each)
Vlad's 'Mech is packing 40 tons of weaponry, before ammunition for the Gauss Rifles is taken into account. By contrast, the Gladiator only has 26.50 tons of pod space.

With this being the same Vlad that eventually fell for (and was willing to actually go to war over) Katherine Steiner-Davion, maybe he did something crazy like de-Omni-zed his Gladiator in order to pack in even more weaponry?

Or, more likely, Stackpole was like, "Well, this Executioner is only, like, five tons lighter than this Dire Wolf, so it totally probably has more-or-less the same carrying capacity, right?"

yup, kinda my point.
#10367
Posted 08 March 2015 - 11:00 AM
Strum Wealh, on 08 March 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:
"With his altered priorities in place, the Executioner's battle computer cycled through his lasers before it got to his remaining Gauss rifle. The pulse laser in the shattered right breast stitched a half-dozen steaming holes in the Lone Wolf's right leg. The other two pulse lasers both melted a deep hole in Phelan's right flank. The Executioner's large laser lanced its red beam through the left side of the Lone Wolf's chest as Phelan brought his machine back under control and turned it to face Vlad." - Blood Legacy, ch. 19
x2 Clan Gauss Rifles (12t each)
x2 Clan ER Large Lasers (4t each)
x4 Clan Medium Pulse Lasers (2t each)
Vlad's 'Mech is packing 40 tons of weaponry, before ammunition for the Gauss Rifles is taken into account. By contrast, the Gladiator only has 26.50 tons of pod space.

With this being the same Vlad that eventually fell for (and was willing to actually go to war over) Katherine Steiner-Davion, maybe he did something crazy like de-Omni-zed his Gladiator in order to pack in even more weaponry?

Or, more likely, Stackpole was like, "Well, this Executioner is only, like, five tons lighter than this Dire Wolf, so it totally probably has more-or-less the same carrying capacity, right?"

Or even, the "Executioner" is actually the name of Vlad's custom variant, not the name of the chassis.
Vlad usually piloted a Warhawk, but that's 32.5 free tons. So, it must be a Dire Wolf (equipped maybe with targeting computer).
#10368
Posted 08 March 2015 - 11:48 AM
Odanan, on 08 March 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:
Vlad usually piloted a Warhawk, but that's 32.5 free tons. So, it must be a Dire Wolf (equipped maybe with targeting computer).
that would be stretching it, and mechs for trials usually have little to do with your normal assignments (and Vlad actually was shown most regularly in Timberwolves, even though Ulrich says that is not his usual mech. But it's what he fought in during the battles on the Rock, the Refusal War and against Kai Allard Liao on Strana Mechty.
#10369
Posted 11 March 2015 - 11:05 AM

I'm looking forward for that little bugger. (and I wonder how they will do the missile hardpoints in the arms)
#10370
Posted 11 March 2015 - 12:18 PM
#10371
Posted 11 March 2015 - 12:58 PM
Odanan, on 11 March 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

I'm looking forward for that little bugger. (and I wonder how they will do the missile hardpoints in the arms)
I'd imagine that it's a given that they'd move the launchers down to the forearms, in order to accommodate the arm-reticle & associated aiming mechanics...?

#10373
Posted 11 March 2015 - 01:38 PM
Metus regem, on 11 March 2015 - 01:10 PM, said:
Or failing that, they will be in the LT/RT....
They won't. See the hardpoints.
#10374
Posted 11 March 2015 - 01:56 PM
Cimarb, on 11 March 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:
I get the feeling folks are going to like the speed, but after boosting the armor from 152 to 206 pts it looks like it's going to have a ferret-like amount of free tonnage (8.5 tons, 9t after shaving an arm for 18 pts/0.5 tons) with 9 engine-mounted DHS and an external DHS. Less weight available after ECM and/or a TC1.
That seems like it's gonna make for some hot builds when/if folks try to max the hardpoints. That's compounded by 3 tons of locked JJ's that would be trimmed on a Firestarter or Spider to free up weight, and the heat interfering with weapon cooling it they're used in combat. The builds might even look Ferret-like if people scale them back to tame the heat. 0.o
I hope folks find something they can enjoy too, I think we'll need to adjust expectations though. The speed's a big deal, and the ECM is worth plenty too. I'm wondering about how the other stuff's going to work out once people start actully building and running them.
Personally, I'm looking forward to a 6 or 7 cERSL build for lulz

Edit: Clarity, added thought
Edited by Virlutris, 11 March 2015 - 02:14 PM.
#10375
Posted 11 March 2015 - 03:45 PM
Virlutris, on 11 March 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:
That seems like it's gonna make for some hot builds when/if folks try to max the hardpoints. That's compounded by 3 tons of locked JJ's that would be trimmed on a Firestarter or Spider to free up weight, and the heat interfering with weapon cooling it they're used in combat. The builds might even look Ferret-like if people scale them back to tame the heat. 0.o
I hope folks find something they can enjoy too, I think we'll need to adjust expectations though. The speed's a big deal, and the ECM is worth plenty too. I'm wondering about how the other stuff's going to work out once people start actully building and running them.
Personally, I'm looking forward to a 6 or 7 cERSL build for lulz

Edit: Clarity, added thought
I want to try a 2x SRM6, 4x ER Small Laser.
#10376
Posted 13 March 2015 - 10:58 AM

Loved it!
#10378
Posted 13 March 2015 - 11:33 AM
I'll sell blood (and other bodily fluids),. beg the wife, ask for forgiveness as I misinterpret her "no" as a "yes", FORGO DRINKING ON ST. PATTY'S.........
I.... Must..... Buy......
#10379
Posted 13 March 2015 - 12:21 PM

but it is the best looking mech i have seen so far...
the OMEGA!!!
http://www.sarna.net...ega_(BattleMech)

Edited by L3mming2, 13 March 2015 - 12:25 PM.
#10380
Posted 13 March 2015 - 12:35 PM
L3mming2, on 13 March 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

but it is the best looking mech i have seen so far...
the OMEGA!!!
http://www.sarna.net...ega_(BattleMech)
Do super-heavies follow their own, separate construction rules?
Edited by Anyone00, 13 March 2015 - 12:36 PM.
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