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#14181 Brain Cancer

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 11:23 AM

Disturbingly the Marauder IIC marks the point where there's more completely made-up versions than canonical ones (the base and -8 are "real", the others are entirely PGI made). This one really strikes me as a minimum effort mechpack.

#14182 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 11:26 AM

View PostBrain Cancer, on 05 August 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

Disturbingly the Marauder IIC marks the point where there's more completely made-up versions than canonical ones (the base and -8 are "real", the others are entirely PGI made). This one really strikes me as a minimum effort mechpack.

Hopefully it's not the beginning of a trend.
But knowing PGI, it probably is.

#14183 Brain Cancer

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 11:55 AM

If you can't advance the tech, they'll eventually do this with every new release.

This points to technical incapacity in PGI more than anything else.

#14184 Odanan

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 11:58 AM

View PostBrain Cancer, on 05 August 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

Disturbingly the Marauder IIC marks the point where there's more completely made-up versions than canonical ones (the base and -8 are "real", the others are entirely PGI made). This one really strikes me as a minimum effort mechpack.

Or maximum effort mechpack. :(

View PostBrain Cancer, on 05 August 2016 - 11:55 AM, said:

If you can't advance the tech, they'll eventually do this with every new release.

I'm afraid that's true. So, the time jump will be only an excuse for new chassis, not new equipment. :(

On the other side, MKII fans can rejoice: their mech might come soon (with several made-up variants, but still).

#14185 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 12:23 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 05 August 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Hopefully it's not the beginning of a trend.
But knowing PGI, it probably is.

Well, guess that means my Jackal and Thug are more plausible now, right?

#14186 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 12:27 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 August 2016 - 12:23 PM, said:

Well, guess that means my Jackal and Thug are more plausible now, right?

Wasn't the Thug already possible?
THG-11E, THG-10E and THG-11Eb? (yeah the variation between the variants is extremely minor, but i mean take a look at the Crab, the biggest difference between its variants are the cosmetic claws, lol)

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 05 August 2016 - 12:28 PM.


#14187 FLG 01

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 12:39 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 05 August 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Hopefully it's not the beginning of a trend.
But knowing PGI, it probably is.


I also hope it does not start a trend.
But if it does... there are some very good IS-designs with few (i.e. 3) or even too few (less than 3) canonic variants. Actually, quite a lot: Gunslinger, Jackal, Falconer, Defiance, Cestus, Maelstrom, Dragon Fire, and more.
That list includes one of my favourite lights, the Spector, which would also work well in MWO. It has a high engine cap, ECM, JJ, a lot of energy hardpoints, and might be a serious counter to the Hankyu. However it has too few variants.

#14188 Uncle Totty

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 01:39 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 05 August 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

Wasn't the Thug already possible?
THG-11E, THG-10E and THG-11Eb? (yeah the variation between the variants is extremely minor, but i mean take a look at the Crab, the biggest difference between its variants are the cosmetic claws, lol)


...or better yet, the King Crab.

#14189 Brain Cancer

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 01:40 PM

Everything's on the table now, at the cost of you never actually getting the new equipment that prevented them from being sold in the first place.

You wanna buy another mechpack?

#14190 FLG 01

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 01:48 PM

View PostBrain Cancer, on 05 August 2016 - 01:40 PM, said:

Everything's on the table now, at the cost of you never actually getting the new equipment that prevented them from being sold in the first place.


Well we should make clear this is not what we want.
Of course, this means voting with your wallet. I dislike saying such things, but what are the alternatives?

#14191 Brain Cancer

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 01:49 PM

Buying another mechpack, of course.

#14192 Imperius

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 02:27 PM

Guess I will check back next year when we get through all the reused IIC's oh joy!

#14193 Brain Cancer

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 03:04 PM

Don't worry a Madcat MK II should be along shortly. Like the Marauder IIC it'll take minimum work to refit a Timber Wolf as an assault. Nice cheap way to introduce another assault for big money and big MC sales.

#14194 CK16

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 03:09 PM

Russ did reply to my question on twitter about a certain mech.

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#14195 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 03:16 PM

View PostCK16, on 05 August 2016 - 03:09 PM, said:

Russ did reply to my question on twitter about a certain mech.

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so, looking to slot in exactly like I called it, from the get go.

Funny that.

#14196 Imperius

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 04:47 PM

So what you're saying is me and my money should stay elsewhere sounds fine to me.

#14197 CK16

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 04:59 PM

View PostImperius, on 05 August 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

So what you're saying is me and my money should stay elsewhere sounds fine to me.


Sure, up to you. As many did think 2017 seemed more realistic then 2016. Hell, at least we got a good chance now it seems. I cant even get a dev on WoT to confirm the M60A1 will even be announced in 2017 >.<

#14198 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 04:59 PM

View PostImperius, on 05 August 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

So what you're saying is me and my money should stay elsewhere sounds fine to me.


Coincidentally, pretty sure it's fine with the rest of us, to.

#14199 Imperius

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 05:22 PM

View PostCK16, on 05 August 2016 - 04:59 PM, said:


Sure, up to you. As many did think 2017 seemed more realistic then 2016. Hell, at least we got a good chance now it seems. I cant even get a dev on WoT to confirm the M60A1 will even be announced in 2017 >.<

Many as in the 6 people who constantly post in this thread and still don't buy the majority of the mechs they say should come before others? Soon TM was said back in Feb, I'm tired of the lies but that's just me. I hope the OCD keeps the wallets open, it closed mine and at least 10 people in my unit's wallet. I'm not saying MWO is doomed. It's not, but making less money is making less money. Any business willing to throw away it's customers due to OCD and refuse to due things out of spite is a business that will not grow. If the MK II was announced for sale before 2017 I would come back and buy all the back mech packs I have skipped on and go back to being a once a month supporter. If it it's announced in 2017 I will just buy the MK II and that would be my only and final purchase until SP (if that ever makes it) comes out.

Edited by Imperius, 05 August 2016 - 05:23 PM.


#14200 Archangel.84

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 05:25 PM

Well, somebody is certainly acting out of spite.





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