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#16921 Metus regem

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:50 AM

View PostOdanan, on 19 July 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

What you guys are thinking about the new tech? There are lots of options, but nothing beats the Light Fusion Engine.

Anyway, the next mechpack should come in 2-4 weeks. I hope it's another jumbo pack of 4 mechs. What's next?

Want:

- Wasp (IS light battlemech, 20 tons)
- Crusader (IS heaby battlemech, 65 tons)
- Fire Moth (Clan light omnimech, 20 tons)
- Rifleman IIC (Clan heavy battlemech)

Expect:

- Hellspawn (IS medium battlemech, 45 tons)
- Fafnir (IS assault battlemech, 100 tons)
- Piranha (Clan light battlemech, 20 tons)
- Stone Rhino (Clan assault battlemech, 100 tons)

Make your bets. I will give a hero mech for the first who gets right the next 4 mechs (if it's actually a 4 mech pack). Yep, giveaway!!



Want:
-Wasp or Stinger (20t IS Light Battle Mech)
- Charger (80t IS Assault Battle Mech, lots of build verity)
- Piranha (20t IS Light Battle mech)
- Warhammer IIC (80t Clan Battlemech)


Expect:
-Thanatos (75t IS Heavy Battlemech)
- Fafnir (100t IS Assault Battle Mech)
- Piranha (20t Clan Battlemech)
- Turkina (95t Clan Assault Omni)

#16922 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:53 AM

Want:
Scorpion (Duh)
Argus
Vulcan
Stinger/Wasp/Valkyrie

Expect:
Random Clan garbage

#16923 Red Shrike

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:55 AM

Want:
Flea

Expect:

Edited by Red Shrike, 19 July 2017 - 06:55 AM.


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 08:14 AM

View PostOdanan, on 19 July 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

What you guys are thinking about the new tech? There are lots of options, but nothing beats the Light Fusion Engine.


I think the new is a surprisingly great improvement and gives some interesting options. The clans didn't get much, but Heavy Lasers, Micro Lasers, and ATMs each have given interesting new possibilities and require adaptation to use effectively, which is very fun. The IS now has some brutal weapons but its the "catch up" weapons that have surprised me the most. I cam across a centurion with 3x S-SRM 6 while in a Jenner yesterday and it was more terrifying!


In regard to the next mechs coming up, the Clans are in NEED of mechs at the 20, 25, 40, 60, 70, and 80 ton levels. Unfortunately, the 60 and 70 ton mechs available are sparse with the Glass Spider being one of the few options, resembling the IS Rifleman but seems the most reasonable option I see.

We pretty much know that the Piranha is coming the next pack and because a mech from each weight class has been given in the new civil war packs, it's a bit of a toss up as to what the 2nd mech will be. Personally, I'd like to see another 40 ton mech released, like the Phantom or Pouncer. The Phantom would likely be too similar to the Piranha and thus the Pouncer would provide a better contrast to Piranha, but the Cougar's fresh installment also likely excludes the Pouncer.

So predictions so far is

Piranha
Glass Spider.


I'll have a look at the IS side soon and update my post about my predictions then.

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 08:22 AM

I Want:
- Penetrator
- WarDog
- Ursus
- Piranha

I Expect:
- Turkina
- Imp
- Hellspawn
- Thanatos

#16926 Odanan

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 08:47 AM

View PostSuperFunkTron, on 19 July 2017 - 08:14 AM, said:

In regard to the next mechs coming up, the Clans are in NEED of mechs at the 20, 25, 40, 60, 70, and 80 ton levels. Unfortunately, the 60 and 70 ton mechs available are sparse with the Glass Spider being one of the few options, resembling the IS Rifleman but seems the most reasonable option I see.

We pretty much know that the Piranha is coming the next pack and because a mech from each weight class has been given in the new civil war packs, it's a bit of a toss up as to what the 2nd mech will be. Personally, I'd like to see another 40 ton mech released, like the Phantom or Pouncer. The Phantom would likely be too similar to the Piranha and thus the Pouncer would provide a better contrast to Piranha, but the Cougar's fresh installment also likely excludes the Pouncer.

Clans are getting a 40 tonner (Arctic Wolf) and a 70 tonner (Nova Cat) soon with the Civil War Escalation.

For the other weights:

20 tons = Fire Moth or Piranha
25 tons = Fire Falcon or Locust IIC
60 tons = Thresher or Hellfire (great potential, but with limited number of canonical variants, just 2)
80 tons = Warhammer IIC or Phoenix Hawk IIC

Rifleman IIC is a much better mech than the Glass Spider.

Edited by Odanan, 19 July 2017 - 01:13 PM.
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#16927 Metus regem

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 08:50 AM

View PostOdanan, on 19 July 2017 - 08:47 AM, said:

Clans are getting a 40 tonner (Arctic Wolf) and a 70 tonner (Nova Cat) soon with the Civil War Escalation.

For the other weights:

20 tons = Fire Moth (or Piranha)
25 tons = Fire Falcon or Locust IIC
60 tons = Thresher (great potential, but with limited number of canonical variants, just 2)
80 tons = Warhammer IIC

Rifleman IIC is a much better mech than the Glass Spider.



As much as I love the Warhammer IIC, I'm not above admitting that the Pheonix Hawk IIC might be a better choice, as the Pixi IIC offers a lot of build verity in the variants.

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 09:04 AM

Want:
Horned Owl (Peregrine)
Hellspawn
Thanatos
Blood Asp

Expect:
Piranha
Chimera
Argus
Turkina

Edited by LordCrasher, 19 July 2017 - 09:15 AM.


#16929 CK16

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 09:07 AM

Clans could also use another 95 tonner, insert Turkina and good alternative to the EXE (though both suffer from being to close to the extremes on thier respected spectrum)

#16930 Gasoline

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 09:20 AM

Turkina is very slow and considering the other slow assaults PGI has done will most likely move like a brick. I would prefer the Blood Asp and it's actually highly likely considering it was basically the testbed for Heavy Lasers.

#16931 Zergling

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 09:31 AM

Blood Asp is a 90 tonner though, and there's already been two Clan 90 tonners released this year.

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 10:10 AM

Russ has said Piranha's coming.

Need some more options though, so:

Light: Piranha
Medium: Vulcan
Heavy: Crusader (rethinking this)
Assault: Warhammer IIC

Edit, DERP: too much ClanTech, revising

Edited by Virlutris, 19 July 2017 - 12:11 PM.


#16933 Metus regem

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 10:11 AM

View PostVirlutris, on 19 July 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Russ has said Piranha's coming.

Need some more options though, so:

Light: Piranha
Medium: Black Lanner
Heavy: Crusader
Assault: Warhammer IIC



Why only one IS mech in that group?

#16934 Odanan

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 10:50 AM

View PostZergling, on 19 July 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

Blood Asp is a 90 tonner though, and there's already been two Clan 90 tonners released this year.

But Blood Asp would be the first 90 tons Clan omnimech!!
(besides, there is really no competition: Blood Asp has everything going on)

Edited by Odanan, 19 July 2017 - 10:50 AM.


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:10 AM

Want:
Dragon Fire
Fafnir
Piranha
Blood Asp

Expect:
Wasp
Thanatos
BLanner
Blood Asp

#16936 Odanan

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:34 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 19 July 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

Expect:
Wasp
Thanatos
BLanner
Blood Asp

I would buy those...

#16937 Imperius

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:38 AM

Expect

Blood Asp
Hellhound MW4 ver
Fafnir
Flea

#16938 Ovion

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:41 AM

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#16939 Virlutris

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:04 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 19 July 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:



Why only one IS mech in that group?


Note the edit.

I spotted the derp job the second it posted. :/

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:21 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 19 July 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

Note the edit.

I spotted the derp job the second it posted. :/



Still I caught it before the edit... Posted Image

That being said, the Crusader is actually not a bad choice, it has lots of varaints with lots of verity to chose from, everything from the walking ammo bomb that is the CDR-3R to the stealth ganker that is the CDR-7L..

For MWO that'd give them the following to chose from for variants:

CDR-3R
CDR-3D
CDR-3K
CDR-3L
CDR-4BR
CDR-4D
CDR-4K
CDR-5K
CDR-5M
CDR-5S
CDR-7L

That's 11 varaints!Posted Image





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