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#17941 Tarogato

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 07:52 PM

Greetings, mechnerds. I've updated my theory craft thread here, if anybody is interested.

https://mwomercs.com...-in-mwo-builds/

Inside I presently have builds for the following:

- Wasp
- Fire Moth
- Fire Falcon
- Men Shen
- Vapour Eagle
- Champion
- Crusader

and I'll soon be adding,

- Chimera
- Raptor
- Incubus


Head on over if you'd like to see theorycrafts for your own pet mechs! No quads though, I'll be doing a separate thread for them soon™.

#17942 Odanan

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 03:04 AM

View PostTarogato, on 10 November 2017 - 07:52 PM, said:

Greetings, mechnerds. I've updated my theory craft thread here, if anybody is interested.

https://mwomercs.com...-in-mwo-builds/

Inside I presently have builds for the following:

- Wasp
- Fire Moth
- Fire Falcon
- Men Shen
- Vapour Eagle
- Champion
- Crusader

and I'll soon be adding,

- Chimera
- Raptor
- Incubus

Head on over if you'd like to see theorycrafts for your own pet mechs! No quads though, I'll be doing a separate thread for them soon™.

Very skilled theorycraft, except for one mech: the Champion. It won't be in the game, and not because of the similarity with the Dragon, or the lack of space (hardpoints always in the torsos), but because of its name.

Mechs that can't be out of the OP: Fafnir, Argus, Blood Asp, Rifleman IIC, Hellion and Hellhound.

#17943 Brain Cancer

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:39 AM

View PostOdanan, on 11 November 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

Very skilled theorycraft, except for one mech: the Champion. It won't be in the game, and not because of the similarity with the Dragon, or the lack of space (hardpoints always in the torsos), but because of its name.

Mechs that can't be out of the OP: Fafnir, Argus, Blood Asp, Rifleman IIC, Hellion and Hellhound.


Oh, come on. Who wouldn't want a Champion that's a champion?

#17944 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:41 AM

View PostBrain Cancer, on 11 November 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

Oh, come on. Who wouldn't want a Champion that's a champion?

I'd totally use a Champion Champion mech. Even if the XP bonus is completely pointless when you have 5000 GSP sitting in your bank.

#17945 TheArisen

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:00 AM

The Champion as a mech would be mediocre in the extreme but the name would be amusing.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:54 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 11 November 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

The Champion as a mech would be mediocre in the extreme but the name would be amusing.
And I would name mine “Champy”.

#17947 xVLFBERHxT

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:29 PM

View PostOdanan, on 11 November 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

Very skilled theorycraft, except for one mech: the Champion. It won't be in the game, ... because of its name.


?

you must explain that to me.

#17948 Odanan

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 03:12 AM

View PostxVLFBERHxT, on 14 November 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

?

you must explain that to me.

PGI created two kinds of special mechs, the HERO and the CHAMPION mechs. When they chose the word champion, I believe they simply ruled out the mech of the same name.

#17949 Odanan

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 03:17 AM

Not that I don't like the mech: I love these "fighter-style" mechs. I just think there will be a lot of confusion with the name (and, between us, with all weapons in the side torsos, this wouldn't be the best mech out there).

#17950 Metus regem

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:34 AM

As much as I'd love to see the Champion, a lot of the variants are a lot alike, so it could cause some issues.... well not really just a boat load of "P" varaints....


That being said, I wonder how many people are going to play the Black Lanner after the first couple of weeks.... I really hope that everyone that wanted it, really does like it when it goes live.... I just have a feeling it's going to get dumped into the same area of the hanger that the unloved mechs go....

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:01 AM

View PostOdanan, on 15 November 2017 - 03:12 AM, said:

PGI created two kinds of special mechs, the HERO and the CHAMPION mechs. When they chose the word champion, I believe they simply ruled out the mech of the same name.


ok

#17952 Odanan

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:40 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 15 November 2017 - 10:34 AM, said:

That being said, I wonder how many people are going to play the Black Lanner after the first couple of weeks.... I really hope that everyone that wanted it, really does like it when it goes live.... I just have a feeling it's going to get dumped into the same area of the hanger that the unloved mechs go....

People said the same about the Linebacker, me included. I'm happy I was wrong.

#17953 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:12 PM

I wish it made more sense to include the Hatchetman :(. Such a cool mech.

I'd imagine PGI's version would look something like this...

Posted Image

It would be sweet (especially if that hatchet could be usable).

#17954 Metus regem

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:20 PM

View PostOdanan, on 15 November 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

People said the same about the Linebacker, me included. I'm happy I was wrong.



When it came to the Linebacker, I just said it was a poor and questionable replacement for the Timber Wolf, but again I told everyone that wanted it, that I hope it lived up to their expectations.

For me, I got lucky with both the Warhammer and Bushwacker being the beast I thought they were going to be, as such I have not been disappointed with them.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:36 PM

View PostOdanan, on 10 November 2017 - 02:03 AM, said:

What if PGI planned since the beginning to absorb into MWO all mechs from all Mechwarrior games? Huge, isn't? (and we are almost there)
PS: there are some less known and relevant remaining mechs in MW2:M, but I think we can live without them.

I like this idea if this is what they had planned behind the curtain. However, with mechs like the Black Lanner not being featured in any Mechwarrior games (correct me if I'm wrong here) I don't think that is the case. I'm not going to complain about the popularity of such said mechs since my pet mech is up in line for the clan heavy department. I'd wish that mechs like the Toyama had a fair chance. Who knows, maybe after my pet mech drops in game I'll go out there and make a Toyama awareness thread.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:49 PM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 15 November 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

Who knows, maybe after my pet mech drops in game I'll go out there and make a Toyama awareness thread.

Please don't. One is enough.

#17957 TheArisen

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:54 PM

View PostKanil, on 15 November 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

Please don't. One is enough.


Actually for the Toyama we could make an exception.

#17958 Valdarion Silarius

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:04 PM

View PostKanil, on 15 November 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

Please don't. One is enough.

Sarcasm aside, was there something wrong with the original?

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:39 PM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 15 November 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

I like this idea if this is what they had planned behind the curtain. However, with mechs like the Black Lanner not being featured in any Mechwarrior games (correct me if I'm wrong here) I don't think that is the case. I'm not going to complain about the popularity of such said mechs since my pet mech is up in line for the clan heavy department. I'd wish that mechs like the Toyama had a fair chance. Who knows, maybe after my pet mech drops in game I'll go out there and make a Toyama awareness thread.

The Black Lanner is a quite popular mech in MW:LL (like the next Clan assault mech, the Blood Asp) and is also one of the mechs added by Mektek to MW4:M.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:45 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 15 November 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

I wish it made more sense to include the Hatchetman Posted Image. Such a cool mech.

I'd imagine PGI's version would look something like this...

Posted Image

It would be sweet (especially if that hatchet could be usable).

Nice Hatchetman! If we get anything close to that I will be very happy.
And yes, it needs to have a usable hatchet (otherwise, what's the point?).





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