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[Odanan]

Shadowomega1, on 03 April 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:

Don't they normally drop new mechs on Friday?

Nope, they normally do announcements on the Tuesdays and Wednesdays (I checked the last 12 months).

Odanan, on 27 June 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

Concept arts release dates:
- 31/oct/11: Atlas, Hunchback and Jenner.
- 23/nov/11: Dragon
- 28/dec/11: Catapult
- 25/jan/12: Centurion
- 22/feb/12: Commando
- 28/mar/12: Awesome
- 25/apr/12: Raven
- 09/may/12: Cicada
- 23/may/12: Cataphract
- 06/jun/12: Stalker
- 20/jun/12: Trebuchet
- 04/jul/12: JagerMech
- 18/jul/12: Spider
- 26/sep/12: Flea
- 17/oct/12: Highlander
- 07/nov/12: Blackjack
- 19/dec/12: Orion
- 24/may/13: Victor
- 05/jun/13: Quickdraw
- 01/aug/13: Kintaro

Special - Project Phoenix mechs:
- 25/jun/13: Locust
- 26/jun/13: Shadowhawk
- 27/jun/13: Thunderbolt
- 28/jun/13: Battlemaster
- 28/aug/13: Griffin
- 28/aug/13: Wolverine

Special - Clan mechs (13/dec/2013)
- Uller / Kit Fox
- Black Hawk/Nova
- Thor / Summoner
- Daishi / Dire Wolf
- Puma / Adder
- Ryoken / Storm Crow
- Mad Cat / Timber Wolf
- Masakari / War Hawk

- 12/feb/14: Firestarter concept art in Vlog #2.
- 03/mar/14: Banshee hero revealed.
- 13/aug/14: Vindicator

Special: Clan Wave 2. (15/sep/2014)
- Koshi / Mist Lynx
- Fenris / Ice Ferret
- Loki / Hellbringer
- Man 'o War / Gargoyle
- Vulture / Mad Dog

Special: Inner Sphere Resistance Pack. (20/oct/2014)
- Panther
- Enforcer
- Grasshopper
- Zeus
- King Crab

22/dec/2014: UrbanMech concept art revealed! (well, sort of).

19/feb/2015: Clan Wave 3 incoming!
- Arctic Cheetah
- Shadow Cat
- Ebon Jaguar
- Executioner

30/may/2015: Inner Sphere Resistance II Pack.
- Wolfhound
- Crab
- Black Knight
- Mauler.

26/jun/2015: Clan IIC Battlemechs.
- Jenner IIC
- Hunchback IIC
- Orion IIC
- Highlander IIC

10/sep/2015: Marauder revealed! (Townhall with Russ Bullock)
01/oct/2015: Warhammer standalone pack announced.
06/nov/2015: Rifleman standalone pack announced.
08/dec/2015: Archer concept art leaked.
30/jan/2016: Kodiak pack announced in Townhall. Two days later, the concept art is released.
26/feb/2016: Phoenix Hawk announced in Townhall.
01/apr/2016: Viper announced in Townhall.
19/apr/2016: Cyclops standalone pack revealed.
29/apr/2016: Night Gyr announced in Townhall.
13/jun/2016: Huntsman standalone pack revealed.
07/jul/2016: Linebacker standalone pack revealed.
05/aug/2016: Marauder IIC standalone pack revealed.
06/sep/2016: Bushwacker concept art revealed.
18/oct/2016: Supernova standalone pack revealed.
04/nov/2016: Assassin standalone pack revealed.
03/dec/2016: Roughneck (first PGI completely made-up chassis) revealed during the Mech_Con.
18/jan/2017: Javelin standalone pack revealed.

Special: Civil War mechs (14/mar/2017)
- Uziel
- Cougar
- Annihilator
- Mad Cat MKII

Special: Civil War Escalation (03/jun/2017)
- Osiris
- Arctic Wolf
- Nova Cat
- Nightstar

03/aug/2017: Thanatos standalone pack revealed.
01/sep/2017: Hellspawn standalone pack revealed.
02/oct/2017: Piranha standalone pack revealed.
01/nov/2017: Black Lanner standalone pack revealed.
09/dec/2017: Sun Spider standalone pack revealed.
05/jan/2018: Fafnir standalone pack revealed.
01/feb/2018: Blood Asp standalone pack revealed.
01/mar/2018: Flea standalone pack revealed.
04/apr/2018: Hellfire standalone pack revealed.
01/may/2018: Vulcan standalone pack revealed.
01/jun/2018: Incubus standalone pack revealed.
11/jul/2018: Champion standalone pack revealed.
01/aug/2018: Vapor Eagle standalone pack revealed.
31/aug/2018: Charger and Hatamoto Chi pack revealed.
03/nov/2018: Warhammer IIC standalone pack revealed.
01/dec/2018: Corsair standalone pack revealed.
08/jan/2019: Marauder II standalone pack revealed.
05/feb/2019: Rifleman IIC standalone pack revealed.
06/mar/2019: Dervish standalone pack revealed.

[Shadowomega1]

Odanan, on 03 April 2019 - 11:53 AM, said:

Nope, they normally do announcements on the Tuesdays and Wednesdays (I checked the last 12 months).

03/aug/2017 Thanatos standalone pack revealed. Thursday
01/sep/2017 Hellspawn standalone pack revealed. Friday
02/oct/2017 Piranha standalone pack revealed. Monday
01/nov/2017 Black Lanner standalone pack revealed Wednesday
09/dec/2017 Sun Spider standalone pack revealed. Saturday
05/jan/2018 Fafnir standalone pack revealed. Friday
01/feb/2018 Blood Asp standalone pack revealed. Thursday
01/mar/2018 Flea standalone pack revealed. Thursday
04/apr/2018 Hellfire standalone pack revealed. Wednesday
01/may/2018 Vulcan standalone pack revealed. Tuesday
01/jun/2018 Incubus standalone pack revealed. Friday
11/jul/2018 Champion standalone pack revealed. Wednesday
01/aug/2018 Vapor Eagle standalone pack revealed. Wednesday
31/aug/2018 Charger and Hatamoto Chi pack revealed. Friday
03/nov/2018 Warhammer IIC standalone pack revealed. Saturday
01/dec/2018 Corsair standalone pack revealed. Saturday
08/jan/2019 Marauder II standalone pack revealed. Tuesday
05/feb/2019 Rifleman IIC standalone pack revealed. Tuesday
06/mar/2019 Dervish standalone pack revealed. Wednesday

Monday 1
Tuesday 3
Wednesday 4
Thursday 3
Friday 4
Saturday 3

Yea you checked the last 18 real well.

Edited by Shadowomega1, 03 April 2019 - 01:36 PM.

[Marauder3D]

Snarky snarky, GI Joe?

Anyway, hopefully we don't have to wait until next week.

[Odanan]

Shadowomega1, on 03 April 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

Yea you checked the last 18 real well.

Odanan, on 03 April 2019 - 11:53 AM, said:

(I checked the last 12 months).

[Shadowomega1]

Odanan, on 03 April 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

Shadowomega1, on 03 April 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

01/feb/2018 Blood Asp standalone pack revealed. Thursday
01/mar/2018 Flea standalone pack revealed. Thursday
04/apr/2018 Hellfire standalone pack revealed. Wednesday
01/may/2018 Vulcan standalone pack revealed. Tuesday
01/jun/2018 Incubus standalone pack revealed. Friday
11/jul/2018 Champion standalone pack revealed. Wednesday
01/aug/2018 Vapor Eagle standalone pack revealed. Wednesday
31/aug/2018 Charger and Hatamoto Chi pack revealed. Friday
03/nov/2018 Warhammer IIC standalone pack revealed. Saturday
01/dec/2018 Corsair standalone pack revealed. Saturday
08/jan/2019 Marauder II standalone pack revealed. Tuesday
05/feb/2019 Rifleman IIC standalone pack revealed. Tuesday
06/mar/2019 Dervish standalone pack revealed. Wednesday

Tuesday 3
Wednesday 3
Thursday 2
Friday 2
Saturday 2

Yea you checked the last 12 real well.

6 to 6 and I also remember 2 of those that were out the week before, however due to art not being done for one and the person they have doing site work not being there they dropped early the following week.

I do believe it was the Champion and the Vapor Eagle that got delayed a week.

Edited by Shadowomega1, 03 April 2019 - 04:30 PM.

[TheArisen]

So I'm guessing the predictions are all Clan light?

[Will9761]

I imagine so. Either the Horned Owl or the Hellion.

[TheArisen]

Will9761, on 03 April 2019 - 08:51 PM, said:

I imagine so. Either the Horned Owl or the Hellion.

Hmm I'm more inclined to guess Fire Falcon for a light. Fairly popular & expands the Clan 25 ton slot but the Locust IIc would be epic sauce. Sure it's another IIc but it'd be so good in game.

[Odanan]

TheArisen, on 03 April 2019 - 08:35 PM, said:

So I'm guessing the predictions are all Clan light?

I do think so.

Firemoth (dream), Fire Falcon (realistic), or Hellion (dark horse)

[Karl Streiger]

Odanan, on 04 April 2019 - 01:51 AM, said:

I do think so.

Firemoth (dream), Fire Falcon (realistic), or Hellion (dark horse)

Or its a Clan Mech in all but Tech Base - and starts with Fire as well or another that ends with Falcon - or maybe it's a Mongoose.
When PGI plans a DLC for MW5 including Clans then the Clan Light WILL be the Firemoth, the Fire Falcon while used on the holy ground of Tukkayyid is less known.

[Sereglach]

Odanan, on 04 April 2019 - 01:51 AM, said:

I do think so.

Firemoth (dream), Fire Falcon (realistic), or Hellion (dark horse)

I honestly really hope it's NOT the Hellion. I agree the Firemoth is the dream that PGI just needs to grow a spine and do, but at least there are a number of nice clan lights that PGI could do.

Here's hoping it is, in fact, a clan light, because we really do need more lights and lower-tonnage mediums across both tech bases.

[Gas Guzzler]

Anyone else surprised we haven't seen anything yet?

[Odanan]

Gas Guzzler, on 04 April 2019 - 12:20 PM, said:

Anyone else surprised we haven't seen anything yet?

Maybe they will wait until the special Catapult/MW5 combo is over.

[Jonathan8883]

The Fire Falcon is a 25 ton light with about 10 tons of pod space (based on Sarna's Prime loadout). The torso hitboxes look like a squashed Jenner. Color me non-optimistic about its viability in combat thanks to hitboxes.
Doesn't the Kit Fox carry roughly the same payload?

Edited by Jonathan8883, 04 April 2019 - 01:41 PM.

[FupDup]

Jonathan8883, on 04 April 2019 - 01:41 PM, said:

The Fire Falcon is a 25 ton light with about 10 tons of pod space (based on Sarna's Prime loadout). The torso hitboxes look like a squashed Jenner. Color me non-optimistic about its viability in combat thanks to hitboxes.
Doesn't the Kit Fox carry roughly the same payload?

KFX has more payload in terms of pod space but it's slow and squishy. Here is the Fire Falcon spreadsheet:



If we get the Alt C, D, F, and H we could mount 12 MGs with 6 backup lasers of choice. Or alternatively 10 lasers and 8 MGs.

Of course I think PGI would probably not give us the full meta combo of C/D/F/H variants because we aren't allowed to have nice things.

EDIT: Wait...18 weapons would break the weapon limit. We're limited to just 16 weapons right?

Edited by FupDup, 04 April 2019 - 01:55 PM.

[Sereglach]

FupDup, on 04 April 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

KFX has more payload in terms of pod space but it's slow and squishy. Here is the Fire Falcon spreadsheet:



If we get the Alt C, D, F, and H we could mount 12 MGs with 6 backup lasers of choice. Or alternatively 10 lasers and 8 MGs.

Of course I think PGI would probably not give us the full meta combo of C/D/F/H variants because we aren't allowed to have nice things.

EDIT: Wait...18 weapons would break the weapon limit. We're limited to just 16 weapons right?

First off, just noticed . . . you can remove remarks about "true dubs" because with the heat system overhaul, all heat sinks function exactly the same.

Secondly, as far as the weapon limit goes, it's an interesting prospect. If they do have a hard-coded 16 weapon limit, then it'd probably just give a red "invalid mech" notice and force you to remove 2 weapons. On the other hand, it's not like the UI cannot support more than 16 weapons. You can set up a Nova with 12 lasers, 4 ballistics, and still have the AMS center torso. The AMS is still technically classified as a weapon and shows up in the weapons UI . . . therefore I don't think the limit stops at 16.

[FupDup]

Sereglach, on 04 April 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

First off, just noticed . . . you can remove remarks about "true dubs" because with the heat system overhaul, all heat sinks function exactly the same.

Secondly, as far as the weapon limit goes, it's an interesting prospect. If they do have a hard-coded 16 weapon limit, then it'd probably just give a red "invalid mech" notice and force you to remove 2 weapons. On the other hand, it's not like the UI cannot support more than 16 weapons. You can set up a Nova with 12 lasers, 4 ballistics, and still have the AMS center torso. The AMS is still technically classified as a weapon and shows up in the weapons UI . . . therefore I don't think the limit stops at 16.

This spreadsheet was made years ago when PoorDubs were still a thing, I haven't updated it because it has all the variants this mech will ever get.

For the weapon limit, right now the mechlab gives you a red triangle warning if you try to mount more than 16 guns. Very few mechs can even reach that level though, such as the Dire Whale.

[Sereglach]

FupDup, on 04 April 2019 - 04:14 PM, said:

This spreadsheet was made years ago when PoorDubs were still a thing, I haven't updated it because it has all the variants this mech will ever get.

For the weapon limit, right now the mechlab gives you a red triangle warning if you try to mount more than 16 guns. Very few mechs can even reach that level though, such as the Dire Whale.

Well then, it shows how long it's been since I touched my Nova. Just tried it in the in-game mech lab and you're correct, 16+ weapons (including AMS) gives an invalid loadout icon. Doesn't bother me, I normally run triple AMS anyway, so I don't hit that limit.

Therefore, they could release whatever they want for the Fire Falcon, and people would just have to use the omnipods judiciously. I'm fine with that.

[FLG 01]

Sereglach, on 04 April 2019 - 10:08 AM, said:

Here's hoping it is, in fact, a clan light, because we really do need more lights and lower-tonnage mediums across both tech bases.

I agree but, realistically, the community does not.
Lights are the least played weight class, they seem to sell worse, and they certainly mean less profit for PGI since the community forced them to reduce the price for light Mech packs. What's worse, any half-way decent light Mech will be called op by a large number of players. Unfortunately I can understand PGI being reluctant to release a light.

And at this point, PGI is playing it safe, hence the IIC-units. Those are boring but they benefit from their (truly famous) progenitors' fame.

I hope I am wrong, because the Pack Hunter, especially the -2 variant, is one of the few Clan Mechs I might actually buy.

[Sereglach]

FLG 01, on 06 April 2019 - 09:56 AM, said:

I agree but, realistically, the community does not.
Lights are the least played weight class, they seem to sell worse, and they certainly mean less profit for PGI since the community forced them to reduce the price for light Mech packs. What's worse, any half-way decent light Mech will be called op by a large number of players. Unfortunately I can understand PGI being reluctant to release a light.

Truly sad, but I can't disagree with that sentiment . . . thus my rant a few pages back and reiterating the points numerous times since. It's endlessly frustrating.

What's worse is that people will start to complain how the beginning (likely the first 1/3 of the game or so) of MW5 feels repetitive with only a few light chassis and lower end mediums showing up over and over again. The reluctance and foolish backlash of a facet of the MWO community to have more lights and lower-end mediums is just going to hurt the MW IP in the long run. Those people need to get over themselves and realize that 1. we only have one life in MWO so all mechs need to be made competitive and 2. more variety across all weight classes is just healthier for the IP as a whole.