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Posted 28 January 2015 - 07:02 AM

View PostilKhan_OrHan, on 28 January 2015 - 06:06 AM, said:

They can't even fix the framerate which CONTINUES to drop on older maps like River City.


They love smoke and fire decorative effects too much on that map, that is most likely the problem.

Some smoke is tactical, something to hide behind.
But so much is just decorative, it would help people if there was an option to turn that sideline framerate stealing bling off.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:17 AM

View Postjoelmuzz, on 28 January 2015 - 07:02 AM, said:


They love smoke and fire decorative effects too much on that map, that is most likely the problem.

Some smoke is tactical, something to hide behind.
But so much is just decorative, it would help people if there was an option to turn that sideline framerate stealing bling off.

I've noticed it on some the other original 4 maps as well, frame drops to around 10 fps, making it impossible to aim accurately. The original 4 are affected the worst.

This drop to 10 fps is recent too, within a few patches.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 03:05 PM

View Postownka, on 28 January 2015 - 06:02 AM, said:

Best solution-make nonfirestarters viable. No offense you crazy spider fanatics but at the moment scouts are generally a downright detriment to their team. I say this as someone who enjoys running lights more than any other weight class, and I've got a founders jenner to prove it. I can bring my jenner or raven and get 300 damage on a "great game", I can bring my firestarter and maybe hit 500, or I can bring almost any heavy mech and get 700+. Like it or not, cannonball is the #1 team strategy right now, and theres nothing to scout when the enemy team is all together. This may change but it means for now, damage and kills are what counts.


I clock an average of 500 in my commando 2D. Personal experience is great and all, but it's just that. Personal. My Firestarters deal crazy damage, but I still out-do them in my Locust. Which can quite easily, without breaking a sweat, get 700+ if it survives for 5 minutes. If I last the full length of the match, I'm probably having a 1K+ damage game in my locust.


The quirks did wonders for the non tier-1 lights.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 05:47 PM

View PostilKhan_OrHan, on 28 January 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:

I've noticed it on some the other original 4 maps as well, frame drops to around 10 fps, making it impossible to aim accurately. The original 4 are affected the worst.

This drop to 10 fps is recent too, within a few patches.


Ive noticed that too.

I thought it was LRM spam related to events.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 06:26 PM

PGI made a Big Battlemech small....and a small Battlemech Big...Welcome to our Universe. :mellow:

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 07:12 PM

View PostDanny Fubar, on 28 January 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

PGI made a Big Battlemech small....and a small Battlemech Big...Welcome to our Universe. :mellow:


I think you mean to replace "big" with "tall", and "small" with "short".

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:39 PM

In the case of my Ember, things seem to be kinda hit-or-miss. It's like everyone's using magnetic ammo and someone's playing with the polarity switch on my Mech. One match I zip through the enemy team taking yellow/orange armor, and the next I get blown to bits the moment I poke my head up.

Same for enemy Firestarters. The majority go down fairly easily, but there are some which seem to lead a charmed life.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:50 PM

4 more pages and you can rest assured a NERFINGS.. LOL! 25 pages and it gets ATTENCIONA!! :lol:

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 09:20 PM

View PostSaltBeef, on 28 January 2015 - 08:50 PM, said:

4 more pages and you can rest assured a NERFINGS.. LOL! 25 pages and it gets ATTENCIONA!! :lol:


Were that true, Meta would be Locusts and Summoners.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 09:28 PM

View PostilKhan_OrHan, on 28 January 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:

I've noticed it on some the other original 4 maps as well, frame drops to around 10 fps, making it impossible to aim accurately. The original 4 are affected the worst.

This drop to 10 fps is recent too, within a few patches.


Toasters are not adequate for gaming.

I recommend upgrading your GPU from a potato, and get a CPU that isn't burnt rye toast.

Edited by Alek Ituin, 28 January 2015 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 05:15 AM

View PostAlek Ituin, on 28 January 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:


Toasters are not adequate for gaming.

I recommend upgrading your GPU from a potato, and get a CPU that isn't burnt rye toast.

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 06:18 AM

View PostAlek Ituin, on 28 January 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:


Toasters are not adequate for gaming.

I recommend upgrading your GPU from a potato, and get a CPU that isn't burnt rye toast.

CPU - i7 980X - 6 Intel cores plus 6 theoretical HT cores
GPU - 2 GTX 680's in SLI

People complain of low performance with more powerful PC's than mine on the forums. You should know that with over 1000 posts.

Performance has always been poor since I played in closed beta. PGI needs to take a break from giving us mechs after releasing Arctic Cheetah and make optimization passes like Planetside 2 did. That helped that game an appreciable amount.

Edited by ilKhan_OrHan, 29 January 2015 - 06:23 AM.


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 07:17 AM

View PostilKhan_OrHan, on 29 January 2015 - 06:18 AM, said:

CPU - i7 980X - 6 Intel cores plus 6 theoretical HT cores
GPU - 2 GTX 680's in SLI

People complain of low performance with more powerful PC's than mine on the forums. You should know that with over 1000 posts.

Performance has always been poor since I played in closed beta. PGI needs to take a break from giving us mechs after releasing Arctic Cheetah and make optimization passes like Planetside 2 did. That helped that game an appreciable amount.


First off: Yes, I do know. I just wanted to make that comment because it was funny. On to the actual reply:

Wow, a Hexa-core CPU. You really don't see those too often, normally it's either 4 or 8 cores. Nifty! What's your operating frequency on that thing? Are you OC'ing?

Now your problem is probably the SLI bridge. Is it AFR or SFR? Because either system can cause FPS drops below that of a single GPU doing the same work. Or for some reason are you using SLI AA? Because if you are, stop that.

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 08:41 AM

I agree they should be nerfed somewhat, regarding percentage of certain quirks etc. I do know the endless frustration of FStarters stalking you with a crapload of firepower for its size. The jenners and spiders are bad too, but seems to me that they are more balanced. I was and may buy a Firestarter. But its tempting to get good in an Locust out of spite that so many are firestarters :P Ravens are in plenty also but you need to know them alot to get good in one. They arent that easy to manouever.

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:33 PM

View PostAlek Ituin, on 29 January 2015 - 07:17 AM, said:


First off: Yes, I do know. I just wanted to make that comment because it was funny. On to the actual reply:

Wow, a Hexa-core CPU. You really don't see those too often, normally it's either 4 or 8 cores. Nifty! What's your operating frequency on that thing? Are you OC'ing?

Now your problem is probably the SLI bridge. Is it AFR or SFR? Because either system can cause FPS drops below that of a single GPU doing the same work. Or for some reason are you using SLI AA? Because if you are, stop that.

Big FPS drops with SLI worked out properly still. People are reporting the exact same thing on these forums without SLI, in this thread even. Needs optimization pass ASAP after Arctic Cheetah bequeathing.

Can't wait to post in the "It's Time To Hit The Arctic Cheetah With The Nerf Bat" thread. Your tears will be delicious. :P

Edited by ilKhan_OrHan, 29 January 2015 - 02:45 PM.


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:38 PM

View PostilKhan_OrHan, on 29 January 2015 - 02:33 PM, said:

Big FPS drops with SLI worked out properly still. Needs optimization pass ASAP after Arctic Cheetah bequeathing.

Can't wait to post in the "It's Time To Hit The Arctic Cheetah With The Nerf Bat" thread. Your tears will be delicious. :P


It does indeed need optimization, but your performance is far below average. Which means it's a problem with your machine, just saying.

But ummm... Why exactly would I cry over the Arctic Cheetah? I know exactly what it's capable of, and exactly how dangerous it'll be in MWO... So no need for me to say "nerf Arctic Cheetah" or cry over it. Just saying.

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:49 PM

View PostAlek Ituin, on 29 January 2015 - 02:38 PM, said:


It does indeed need optimization, but your performance is far below average. Which means it's a problem with your machine, just saying.

But ummm... Why exactly would I cry over the Arctic Cheetah? I know exactly what it's capable of, and exactly how dangerous it'll be in MWO... So no need for me to say "nerf Arctic Cheetah" or cry over it. Just saying.

My performance is the standard everyone is experiencing, which means it's a problem with your reading comprehension skills.

I didn't say you specifically would QQ about it.

Edited by ilKhan_OrHan, 29 January 2015 - 02:49 PM.


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 05:10 PM

View PostilKhan_OrHan, on 29 January 2015 - 06:18 AM, said:

CPU - i7 980X - 6 Intel cores plus 6 theoretical HT cores
GPU - 2 GTX 680's in SLI

People complain of low performance with more powerful PC's than mine on the forums. You should know that with over 1000 posts.

Performance has always been poor since I played in closed beta. PGI needs to take a break from giving us mechs after releasing Arctic Cheetah and make optimization passes like Planetside 2 did. That helped that game an appreciable amount.


How many cores available matters not at all of the program isn't written to use them.

For reference with a 4 vote i2xxx and a 7970 ,gpu I get 80 fps ......except in cw

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 06:34 PM

View PostilKhan_OrHan, on 29 January 2015 - 02:49 PM, said:

My performance is the standard everyone is experiencing, which means it's a problem with your reading comprehension skills.

I didn't say you specifically would QQ about it.


Actually, it's a problem with your system. Because in my time on these forums, the consistent performance average was around 40FPS. For a high-end system that is. Some pushed 60FPS, but they also used config tweaks and other stuff to boost performance. So no, your performance is NOT a consistent average over the history of the game, get the f**k over yourself.

Oh, and saying "Your tears will the delicious" when responding to somebody, is pretty f**king specific in its nature. The evidence here points towards you having no reading comprehension skills, you genetic flotsam. F**king done wasting my time with knuckle dragging troglodytes such as yourself.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 06:08 PM

View PostDanny Fubar, on 28 January 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

PGI made a Big Battlemech small....and a small Battlemech Big...Welcome to our Universe. :mellow:

That was a K car, not battlemechs ;)



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