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[Ecrof]

What should the max engine size/speed for the Urbie be? Just thought some of you guys might like a speed comparison so I through this together.
100t Boar's Head 71.3kph
95t Banshee 75.0
85t Battlemaster 83.9
80t Dragon Slayer 89.1
80t Pretty Baby 89.1
80t Gargoyle 89.1
65t Firebrand 93.2
65t Jester 97.3
60t Dragon 106.9
60t Quickdraw 106.9
55t Wolverine 121.5
50t TREBUCHET 139.0
45t Blackjack 116.8
40t Cicada 151.5

Urbie engine size/speed
Urbie 100/59.4 kph _ 100t Atlas 71.3
Urbie 125/74.2 _ 95t Banshee 75
Urbie 150/89.1 _ 80t Dragonslayer 89.1**
Urbie 180/106.9 _ 60t Dragon 106.9*
Urbie 200/118.8 _ 55t Wolverine 121.5
Urbie 215/127.7 _ 50t trebuchet 139.0

Edited by Ecrof, 21 January 2015 - 09:51 PM.

[FupDup]

180-210 engine or bust.

[Ecrof]

FupDup, on 21 January 2015 - 09:50 PM, said:

180-210 engine or bust.

Do you think any of them will come back to earth or can I chase there Urbie dreams down with my Boars Head?

Edited by Ecrof, 21 January 2015 - 10:09 PM.

[Brody319]

We already have a few topics discussing this issue.

[Xetelian]

255 or bust.

[Ecrof]

Brody319, on 21 January 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

We already have a few topics discussing this issue.

I know but to many people are stuck in the several pages reading in space with no reference to earth.

Edited by Ecrof, 21 January 2015 - 10:14 PM.

[MechaBattler]

The Urbanmech should be slower then your average light. By a good margin. It's part of what sets it apart. But I do think the max armor should be higher then a light of the same weight to offset it.

[HARDKOR]

It should max out at 60 kph but have epic quirks.

I suggest 50% cooldown on ac 10 and super fast torso twist.

[FupDup]

HARDKOR, on 21 January 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

It should max out at 60 kph but have epic quirks.

I suggest 50% cooldown on ac 10 and super fast torso twist.

If a 30 ton mech is going at Dire Wolf speeds, it's gonna need a bare minimum of +100-200% to every single stat it has to be anywhere near even Tier 5.

Edited by FupDup, 21 January 2015 - 10:32 PM.

[HARDKOR]

ITS AN URBANMECH

It's a joke mech that you guys want for kitch value. Expecting it to be good is really really super fail and against the whole point of the thing.

This is the mech you take mostly in private 12 vs 12 games for laughs and thats it.

I mean srsly, trying to make the thing into a normal mech defeats the purpose.

It's like a sexy clown. WTF is the point?

[FupDup]

HARDKOR, on 21 January 2015 - 10:41 PM, said:

ITS AN URBANMECH

It's a joke mech that you guys want for kitch value. Expecting it to be good is really really super fail and against the whole point of the thing.

This is the mech you take mostly in private 12 vs 12 games for laughs and thats it.

I mean srsly, trying to make the thing into a normal mech defeats the purpose.

It's like a sexy clown. WTF is the point?

It would be nice to see it occasionally used after 1-2 months past release, rather than go the way of the dodo like pre-quirk Trebuchets and Awesomes and Commandos...

[El Bandito]

100 max engine or no buy. Yes, I am gonna declare it now that I am willing to break my promise of not spending money if PGI releases it with 100 max engine rating. There is no challenge otherwise.

I suppose 150 rating is more acceptable to others, but I am not gonna buy it like that.

Edited by El Bandito, 21 January 2015 - 10:47 PM.

[FupDup]

El Bandito, on 21 January 2015 - 10:43 PM, said:

100 max engine or no buy.

Are you sure that you would enjoy being outran by Atlases while having less firepower than a Lolcust and less durability than a Commando?

El Bandito, on 21 January 2015 - 10:43 PM, said:

There is no challenge otherwise.

There are two ways you can make a mech challenging:

1. Face skilled opponents.

2. Intentionally use a gimp loadout.


We don't need to make the mech as a whole useless just because some people derive pleasure from punishment. If you want that, you can simply build the mech the way you want it regardless of what the max engine cap is.

Edited by FupDup, 21 January 2015 - 10:49 PM.

[HARDKOR]

I'm not buying it if it goes more than 100 kph.

[El Bandito]

FupDup, on 21 January 2015 - 10:45 PM, said:

Are you sure that you would enjoy being outran by Atlases while having less firepower than a Lolcust and less durability than a Commando?

YES. Just getting a kill in that thing will be enough to overcome all the handicaps I experience. The sheer humiliation I deliver to my enemies will sustain me. Not to mention the videos I can make when piloting it.

Otherwise, it is not an Urbanmech. At least, not the one I am willing to spend real money on.

Edited by El Bandito, 21 January 2015 - 10:56 PM.

[Ecrof]

HARDKOR, on 21 January 2015 - 10:41 PM, said:

ITS AN URBANMECH

It's a joke mech that you guys want for kitch value. Expecting it to be good is really really super fail and against the whole point of the thing.

This is the mech you take mostly in private 12 vs 12 games for laughs and thats it.

I mean srsly, trying to make the thing into a normal mech defeats the purpose.

It's like a sexy clown. WTF is the point?

Edited by Ecrof, 21 January 2015 - 10:56 PM.

[FupDup]

El Bandito, on 21 January 2015 - 10:49 PM, said:

YES. Just getting a kill in that thing will be enough to overcome all the handicaps I experience. The sheer humiliation I deliver to my enemies will sustain me. Not to mention the videos I can make when piloting it.

Otherwise, it is not an Urbanmech. At least, not the one I am willing to spend real money on.

You can equip a 100 if you want to, even if the engine cap was above that number (i.e. 180+). And you can also run with only 1-2 tons of armor for extra "bragging rights." Maybe even drop with just 1 Small Laser and 1 Machine Gun.

You always have the choice to run derp loadouts if you want to, just like you can with any existing mech. Having the ability to create a semi-viable loadout doesn't mean you're forced to take advantage of that capability.

See, you get to play the way you want to, and other people might get it to be somewhere around Tier 3 ish to be "pug viable." Everybody wins.

[El Bandito]

FupDup, on 21 January 2015 - 10:54 PM, said:

You can equip a 100 if you want to, even if the engine cap was above that number (i.e. 180+). And you can also run with only 1-2 tons of armor for extra "bragging rights." Maybe even drop with just 1 Small Laser and 1 Machine Gun.

You always have the choice to run derp loadouts if you want to, just like you can with any existing mech. Having the ability to create a semi-viable loadout doesn't mean you're forced to take advantage of that capability.

See, you get to play the way you want to, and other people might get it to be somewhere around Tier 3 ish to be "pug viable." Everybody wins.

You sir, have no taste. It is much more epic and readily recognizable to win in a mech that is really really bad no matter how much you tweak, than intentionally gimping a mech that is not too bad otherwise.

I don't want to yell in all chat "I AM INTENTIONALLY USING GIMPED MECH" all the time, when instead everyone can immediately tell that I am playing the worst mech possible.

Long story short : Piloting SDR-5V and succeeding > Piloting gimped Firestarter with just 2 medium lasers and succeeding.

Edited by El Bandito, 21 January 2015 - 11:00 PM.

[HARDKOR]

I will only enjoy driving it if it sucks no matter what you do to it.

I will do my best to make it suck less, and enjoy knowing that it still sucks.

If you want a good mech, there are 90 others...

[FupDup]

El Bandito, on 21 January 2015 - 10:56 PM, said:

You sir, have no taste. It is much more epic and readily recognizable to win in a mech that is really really bad no matter how much you tweak, than intentionally gimping a mech that is not too bad otherwise.

I don't want to yell in all chat "I AM INTENTIONALLY USING GIMPED MECH" all the time, when instead everyone can immediately tell that I am playing the worst mech possible.

The outcome is the same on your end, the difference is that you're making every pilot of the mech also share the same outcome instead of letting them "choose their destiny" so to say.

Sort of like how people who want to feel like the IS is being crushed by the Clans like lore, can simply choose to use really bad loadouts that can't possibly stand up to them. So they get to have their way, while the rest of the game at least somewhat attempts to balance them.