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[RogueLdr]

Ax2Grind, on 27 January 2015 - 04:39 AM, said:

Except...MS is not demanding an entire faction kowtow to their needs...that idea has been created by Clan Wolf members. When asked why we would want to attack, and why we have attacked in the past, we have responded...none of that has been demands.

Please correct me if i'm wrong here, your response was basically:
1: we want to fight CJF
2: we just want more fights

There are options to resolve both of those that don't involve attacking Wolf, both I and others have made them. Yet they are systematically ignored or waved off as "Weeeellll, we don't really want to do that..."

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There have been ideas for negotiation but all of that comes after the most base line aspect of the game...attack lanes.

As long as the only solution that anyone sees to this is attacking Wolf and/or taking our territory; you are going to get push back from us.
Do you really blame us?

CGB/Mercs get new attack lanes, fresh opponents, new worlds, etc...
CJF/Steiner(maybe) get new and challenging people to fight, more matches etc...
Wolf gets... cut in two, loses territory, no one new to fight (if the corridor is voluntary)

Do you see why we resist this idea?

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In the end, if no agreements are forthcoming there is just the game. Clan Wolf need do nothing but what they are already doing.

On this we agree, we are all at the mercy of PGI. Until they fix this we must play the game we're given.
We understand your grievances and at least in part agree with you.
But we cannot and will not in good conscious, lie down and give territory to any aggressor. Be they Clan, Merc or IS.
This is not the path we would prefer, we want to push towards Terra, TOGETHER. But if it is the path we are forced down, then we will give you the fights you crave.

[Summon3r]

so, before CW clan wolf did nothing but mostly infight and try to out epeen the other other. since CW clan wolf has done nothing but infight and try to out epeen the each other.

at some point can we select an ilkhan or supreme commander and all work together?

alot of the issues we are losing our minds at each other for are thanks to TERRIBLY delivered BETA version of CW.. i think id call it more like an ALPHA? seriously as much as CW can here and there its a flop. most frustrating thing since it dropped is the division of the Wolves for me poersonally.

[RustyBolts]

This is all ******* embarrasing for both Wolf and Bear at this point because of some over inflated egos on both sides and the Mercs who are doing nothing but stroking those egos in one way or another.

[Phelan Ward-Kell]

Ax2Grind, on 27 January 2015 - 04:39 AM, said:

Except...MS is not demanding an entire faction kowtow to their needs...

Firstly, actions speak louder than words. What you're doing is saying that either you get to attack Wolf flanks from CGB, and both CGB and Wolf have to put up with it just so you can have your attack lanes.

OR

That Wolf let you carve a lane through our territory so that you can fight CJF (Which I direct you towards the long thread by Knightcrawler).



Let me ask you this: What would you do if Wolf battened down the hatches and swallowed CGB? How would your units feel about fighting on one front, with only one attack and one defense planet to choose from? I'm not saying this as a threat, merely a hypothetical. Would your die-hard CGB unit be so die-hard CGB then?

You want attack lanes, but there are far better ways to get it. You talk about CWDG pissing off the community, yet your own behaviour displays callousness and arrogance towards members of the community. Don't be a hypocrite, it won't get you any respect here.
As it stands, your behaviour is displaying exactly what DV McKenna said is taking place. You're just trying to screw with the clans in order to create strife for us. In which case, this entire thread is a joke, and should cease with this post.


But let me be clear on something: Don't knock my Khan in the forums for his aggressive defense of our territory, when you are just passive-aggressively screwing with not one, but two clans. This isn't high school. If you're an adult, you should act like one.

[Kain Demos]

DV McKenna, on 27 January 2015 - 01:51 AM, said:

Oh MS still looking to create infighting amongst the clans to take the pressure away from the IS.
Still looking for that free territory through Clan Wolf so that their own holdings aren't at stake.

I mean it's not like they could get what they are after playing as CW or FRR at all.

I guess they cannot use the "we need to get to CJF for Lords" excuse anymore either. Assuming, that is, If they are still just wanting to fight you since no one else is worthy and they currently share a border with you.

Edited by Kain Thul, 27 January 2015 - 01:41 PM.

[lpmagic]

Nice try Blueduck , apparently anything on the forum will turn in to flames!!!

Good honest effort to get people talking. Right now though, MS is trying to stir the pot so they can have their way. In no way could they not maneuver around wolf to get where they wish to be, it's just more fun to get everyone all stirred up and scurry about like mice, which we are graciously doing lol. I'm pretty sure that no matter what OUR deliberations may be, MS will do things how they would like to, this is a game after all, and they are simply adding in political pressure by flippant tones and double talk It's not CGB that is the issue, you can clearly see who is posting and how this is going. people will take the lanes given, all anyone can do is defend or attack, talk is not cheap, but it is also not transparent

[Kain Demos]

lpmagic, on 27 January 2015 - 09:40 AM, said:

Nice try Blueduck , apparently anything on the forum will turn in to flames!!!

Good honest effort to get people talking. Right now though, MS is trying to stir the pot so they can have their way. In no way could they not maneuver around wolf to get where they wish to be, it's just more fun to get everyone all stirred up and scurry about like mice, which we are graciously doing lol. I'm pretty sure that no matter what OUR deliberations may be, MS will do things how they would like to, this is a game after all, and they are simply adding in political pressure by flippant tones and double talk It's not CGB that is the issue, you can clearly see who is posting and how this is going. people will take the lanes given, all anyone can do is defend or attack, talk is not cheap, but it is also not transparent

There are plenty of CGB guys joining in as well.

[Vxheous]

Summon3r, on 27 January 2015 - 08:26 AM, said:

so, before CW clan wolf did nothing but mostly infight and try to out epeen the other other. since CW clan wolf has done nothing but infight and try to out epeen the each other.

at some point can we select an ilkhan or supreme commander and all work together?

alot of the issues we are losing our minds at each other for are thanks to TERRIBLY delivered BETA version of CW.. i think id call it more like an ALPHA? seriously as much as CW can here and there its a flop. most frustrating thing since it dropped is the division of the Wolves for me poersonally.

This could actually stem from the fact that Clan Wolf as an Entity has players that express both Warden and Crusader sentiments (much like Lore Clan Wolf).

[lpmagic]

Kain Thul, on 27 January 2015 - 01:41 PM, said:

There are plenty of CGB guys joining in as well.

I was not on blueducks case, nothing could be further from the truth, I was supporting his cause, this OP and making it clear that most if not all of these "flame wars" are being fomented from an outside source, putting oxygen on the fire....so, of course it is calm down mate, I'm a wolf as well

[Alexander Steel]

I keep saying that it would be really cool if Clan Wolf had a split like they did in the novels. Clan Wolf in actual Exile would be a fun faction to join.

[Vxheous]

Alexander Steel, on 27 January 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

I keep saying that it would be really cool if Clan Wolf had a split like they did in the novels. Clan Wolf in actual Exile would be a fun faction to join.

Maybe someday if PGI advances the Timeline. WiE would be a very popular faction though, play as Inner sphere but with full Clan mech access (though by then IS factions would also have enough Clan tech isorla)

[KuroNyra]

Alexander Steel, on 27 January 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

I keep saying that it would be really cool if Clan Wolf had a split like they did in the novels. Clan Wolf in actual Exile would be a fun faction to join.

Vxheous Kerensky, on 27 January 2015 - 02:59 PM, said:

Maybe someday if PGI advances the Timeline. WiE would be a very popular faction though, play as Inner sphere but with full Clan mech access (though by then IS factions would also have enough Clan tech isorla)

At least the goal here would be clear.
Stop the Clans, protect Terra from the Crusaders. But I think at this point IS will still be IS tech locked.

[Alexander Steel]

KuroNyra, on 27 January 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

At least the goal here would be clear.
Stop the Clans, protect Terra from the Crusaders. But I think at this point IS will still be IS tech locked.

Even odds say that the attack program let's them attack Steiner.

[KuroNyra]

Alexander Steel, on 27 January 2015 - 03:06 PM, said:

Even odds say that the attack program let's them attack Steiner.

Has long has Davion is safe and is our allies. I am fine with that.
VICTOR STEINER-DAVION ON THE THROWN! (or his brother but not that Katrina... Well... Good Looking lady? :3 )

[Star Wolves Admin Account]

Hey all,

John Wolf has agreed to carry a list of our issues/solutions to the dev in regards to the merc/clan issues from this weekend.

I've created a thread for it in the clan forums.

Please post your issues/suggestions there and I will compile to send to John.

[lpmagic]

link it blueduck please

[Richard Warts]

Demiurge, on 26 January 2015 - 12:20 AM, said:

In the year 480BC the huge army of persian attack Greek beacose persian king wish to attack. Like Mercstar now. They has a hordes of warriors and greatly outnumbered the Greek and Spartan. All of you surelly know what happen next. The 300 Spartans held the whole army and give time to all other Greek. In the end Greek states won that war.

You can choose now like Spartans before. What you preffer. Free will of you own action or doing what mercstar say to do.

Choose.

The Spartans didn't fight alone in the Battle of Thermopylae, Thebans and Thespians were also present. The combined Greek force numbered somewhere between 5000-7000 troops.


Sorry if someone already corrected that error.

Edited by Tabu 73, 27 January 2015 - 06:06 PM.

[Star Wolves Admin Account]

lpmagic, on 27 January 2015 - 05:42 PM, said:

link it blueduck please

http://mwomercs.com/...sed-to-the-dev/

Tx for giving feedback.

[hybrid black]

operatorZ, on 27 January 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

what am I missing? Mercs got the short end...? Hardly...they have all the advantages and none of the disadvantages that we as loyalists do...

They can go where they want with impunity...
They rack up the same awards we do...only they can do it faster do to being flexible on which force they fight for...
There currently is no system for balancing their advantages...

you get 50% more LP

[Ax2Grind]

Tabu 73, on 27 January 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

The Spartans didn't fight alone in the Battle of Thermopylae, Thebans and Thespians were also present. The combined Greek force numbered somewhere between 5000-7000 troops.


Sorry if someone already corrected that error.

I did but then the post didn't post and I got logged out so I didn't.

I was correcting every point he brought up including the Helots (slaves) that the Spartans brought and who they kept with them at the end of the battle (2-3 thousand troops right there)...the fact that the Persians were trying to stop the revolts that the Greek States were causing in Ionia...the fact that the Pesian army was indeed victorious and that Xerces and the bulk of the army left for home...etc etc. But hey....what is the point of being factual when discussing history.

Edited by Ax2Grind, 27 January 2015 - 06:39 PM.