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[MonochromeGoat]

Next time i drive my car i'm going to take 2 parking places, since the rules and legislation doesn't exactly say it's illegal. U wot?You are saying i'm selfish?You are selfish because this is the way i do it.Who are you to tell me how to park.When you got your license you agreed that you are going to park your car in a designated space, why must you tell me that what i'm doing is wrong?Where does it say that is wrong?If you can't deal with this, why do you drive a car?You know what i do when this happens to me?I jump out of my car in the middle of the street and go home.This is illegal, though what i'm doing now is not.

[TWIAFU]

Lily from animove, on 02 February 2015 - 06:09 AM, said:

running away in skimish is not active participation.

If he is actively engaging/piloting it sure is. There is more to combat then playing peek-a-boo.

If he runs off and powers down it is not.

YOUR definition does not matter, ONLY PGI's does.

[Joseph Mallan]

Torgun, on 02 February 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

Running away and hiding in a game that is focused on actually destroying the opposition is bad gameplay and should be restricted. Just because I think something is wrong does not make me elitist, that's just your view on my opinion.

What makes your line of thinking elitist is you wanting to take away someone else's idea of how to play the game. Because YOU are right. You want grey separated into black and white.

Question, Who are you to tell me how I am supposed to play this game I spend my money on??

[TWIAFU]

Kjudoon, on 02 February 2015 - 07:48 AM, said:

You want to ban people who are playing the way they want to and bothers you. that's elitist.

No, ban people that cannot nor will not play by the same rules that we ALL agree to.

I want to TK you right now, because that is how I want to play. Sorry that may bother you but it is how I want to play. Don't be an elitist and tell me I cannot play the way I want to.

[Joseph Mallan]

Aethon, on 02 February 2015 - 07:57 AM, said:

If the last guy is still engaging the enemy, I keep my mouth shut and let him do his thing. I also keep my mouth shut if it is Conquest or CW, for obvious reasons.

However, if he runs off to the corner of the map and shuts down during Assault or Skirmish, I *will* tell them where he is, because he has ceased doing anything at all, save for wasting everyone else's time. No, not just mine; there are over 20 people sitting there, waiting on this to die, or for the counter to run down, before they get their mechs back. When you are trying to master your mechs, this gets especially frustrating.

The only reason I could have justified this in the past is now gone: we have no repair/rearm costs. It literally costs nothing to lose your mech in this game, or to expend extra ammunition. It hurts nothing but one's pride,

In other words, they need to grow a spine and go engage the enemy. If they were afraid to lose their mech, they should not have joined a battle in the first place.

My problem with your way is You died. You have no say on how the survivor MUST play.

TWIAFU, on 02 February 2015 - 08:03 AM, said:

No, ban people that cannot nor will not play by the same rules that we ALL agree to.

I want to TK you right now, because that is how I want to play. Sorry that may bother you but it is how I want to play. Don't be an elitist and tell me I cannot play the way I want to.

Yes we all agreed to play in a match that can last up to 15 minutes. You then are in violation of the rules. Its a ban-able offense in your thinking.

You can try to TK me if you want. I will defend myself and move on in the match.

And TK is pretty well spelled out.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 02 February 2015 - 08:07 AM.

[TWIAFU]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 February 2015 - 08:02 AM, said:

What makes your line of thinking elitist is you wanting to take away someone else's idea of how to play the game. Because YOU are right. You want grey separated into black and white.

Question, Who are you to tell me how I am supposed to play this game I spend my money on??

PGI is telling you haw to play the game, just like eveyone else here.

We all agree to play that way.

If you do not want to follow the same rules as every one else and think "your" fun is more important then everyone else, your going to have a big shock.

Your not a special snowflake. Your in the same cesspool as everyone and smell just as bad.

[Lily from animove]

Kjudoon, on 02 February 2015 - 07:12 AM, said:

Says you. Nobody official says that. Ergo, not valid. Continuing to repeat it will not make it true either.

Shutdown is whatever I want to use it for, whenever, and however, as long as I do 1 point of damage or take damage, I've participated. If I move with what appears to be intent other than to hide at any point in match, it is not a violation of CoC.




LOL... I love that old mechwives tale. Go ahead and shut down. I get a bunch of free damage off of you as the missiles hit where you last were... where you shut down.

you are a stubborn guy trying to find anythign for aour opinion, thats all.

you fool, no one ever said that shutting down prevents the current fired misiles to hit, but a misisle boat losing this lock can not fire at you anymore without a line of sight, and if you are far enough away. the you cna power up and walk out of the line of fire before another unlocked lrm salvo even hits you. Wow ypur points of argumentation are as plain bad as your entire logic. No wonder you want to bend those words to your favor, using common sense and seeing an opportunaty to running seems not to be uncluded in your way of thinking.

have done NO WRONG, supid wording. because even one damage does not mean you really participated in the match, because by your logi, was doing one damage and then running the entire time enough in terms of "participate". This is as vague as saying 5 minutes runnign is nothing wrong. Because the COC does also not state what is right. The mechanics say kill eahc other in skirmish, and you start refusing to do so the moment you start running with no intention to battle anymore.

Kjudoon, on 02 February 2015 - 07:48 AM, said:

You want to ban people who are playing the way they want to and bothers you. that's elitist.

you want to allow people to play the game as it was not intended to be played, and this is just stupid, because if you don't want to play the game as intended, don't play that game at all.

Edited by Lily from animove, 02 February 2015 - 08:10 AM.

[Torgun]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 February 2015 - 08:02 AM, said:

What makes your line of thinking elitist is you wanting to take away someone else's idea of how to play the game. Because YOU are right. You want grey separated into black and white.

Question, Who are you to tell me how I am supposed to play this game I spend my money on??

Just drop the whole elitist crap, you're just trying to act as if I'm not allowed to have my opinion by using the whole elitist tag to ferret me out as someone who should not have my opinion from the get-go. I'm a player like everyone else that see a real problem with the rules for this game that needs to be amended. If you disagree fine, but my opinion is worth just as much as yours, no matter how much you try to play the elitist card.

[TWIAFU]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 February 2015 - 08:05 AM, said:

My problem with your way is You died. You have no say on how the survivor MUST play.


Yes we all agreed to play in a match that can last up to 15 minutes. You then are in violation of the rules. Its a ban-able offense in your thinking.

You can try to TK me if you want. I will defend myself and move on in the match.

And TK is pretty well spelled out.

Not my fault the guy I was replying to stepped in front of me when I fired an Alpha Strike.

It is not "my" thinking, PGI's.

Plus, I could not find an appropriate /sarcasm emote.

Edited by TWIAFU, 02 February 2015 - 08:11 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

TWIAFU, on 02 February 2015 - 08:06 AM, said:

PGI is telling you haw to play the game, just like eveyone else here.

We all agree to play that way.

If you do not want to follow the same rules as every one else and think "your" fun is more important then everyone else, your going to have a big shock.

Your not a special snowflake. Your in the same cesspool as everyone and smell just as bad.

Yes they said I must Participate in teh game. And once I have participated in the game and out lived you, IF I out live you. I can continue to play how I see fit. My fun is just as important to me as yours is to you.

Understand I do not run and hide. I am however defending teh right of those who choose this as a means to stay alive and take a kill away from the opponent. I am following teh rules as written.

And FYI.... everyone is a special snowflake. no two people are Exactly alike. Not even twins.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 02 February 2015 - 08:13 AM.

[BourbonFaucet]

I sort of can't believe there are still threads on this topic.

[Triskelion]

Techorse, on 02 February 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I sort of can't believe there are still threads on this topic.

I feel you m8.

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Vassago Rain, on 01 February 2015 - 01:13 AM, said:

No one tolerates having their time wasted.

I beg to differ, sitting in front of a computer playing one video game for hours on end qualifies. Besides, last man standing pilots can come back to win the game after having worthless pug mentalities like that whine about having their time wasted.

So with respect, pugs need to do the GOOD pilots a favor and die LESS and stop wasting OUR time making US CARRY HARDER.

Example:


These people in game weren't ****** and let me work. I was last man and servers were going down soon. We didn't win, but I fought well and died well, and took a few with me... in my Mist Lynx. So I support OP... shut, the, hell, up, when you're dead and the other guy isn't. You don't deserve to complain.

Edited by 00ohDstruct, 02 February 2015 - 08:25 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

TWIAFU, on 02 February 2015 - 08:10 AM, said:

Not my fault the guy I was replying to stepped in front of me when I fired an Alpha Strike.

It is not "my" thinking, PGI's.

Plus, I could not find an appropriate /sarcasm emote.

If I step in front of your Alpha Its My fault, unless you alpha me on purpose. Now proving you did on purpose...

PGIs thinking is obvious not what you think it is, or they would have amended the Participation rule. Maybe it is hazy cause participation is not as cut and dry as you think it is.

Who participated more YOU, dead at 6 minutes with 1 kill and 2 assists, Or Ninja man running out the Clock with 4 kills and 5 Assists?

00ohDstruct, on 02 February 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

I beg to differ, sitting in front of a computer playing one video game for hours on end qualifies. Besides, last man standing pilots can come back to win the game after having worthless pug mentalities like that whine about having their time wasted.

So with respect, pugs need to do the GOOD pilots a favor and die LESS and stop wasting OUR time making US CARRY HARDER.

I like how you turned that around!

[Lily from animove]

Joseph Mallan, on 02 February 2015 - 08:18 AM, said:

If I step in front of your Alpha Its My fault, unless you alpha me on purpose. Now proving you did on purpose...

PGIs thinking is obvious not what you think it is, or they would have amended the Participation rule. Maybe it is hazy cause participation is not as cut and dry as you think it is.

Who participated more YOU, dead at 6 minutes with 1 kill and 2 assists, Or Ninja man running out the Clock with 4 kills and 5 Assists?


I like how you turned that around!

depends on the damage ninjaman did vs the 6 minute dead guy, killstealling sweeping and runnign for k/d stroking is not really participating, it's nearly close to exploiting the mechnaics than actually participating.

[Navy Sixes]

If you're spectating on a lone teammate who is trying to do anything (even hide and power-down) with more than 6 minutes left in the match, you're missing the point.

The question isn't "should I give away that last player's position?"

The questions you should be asking are "How did I get dusted so quickly? What did I do wrong? How can I become a better player so I don't get slaughtered in 8 minutes?"

If you and 10 other teammates got beat down before the match was even half over, you are a waste of time. I'd rather drop with a never-say-die sole-survivor than any of you anytime.

Edited by Tycho von Gagern, 02 February 2015 - 08:26 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Lily from animove, on 02 February 2015 - 08:23 AM, said:

depends on the damage ninjaman did vs the 6 minute dead guy, killstealling sweeping and runnign for k/d stroking is not really participating, it's nearly close to exploiting the mechnaics than actually participating.

If he moved around and participated that is all that is required. I would argue there no such thing as kill stealing but that is purely a perspective thing.

[MonochromeGoat]

00ohDstruct, on 02 February 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

I beg to differ, sitting in front of a computer playing one video game for hours on end qualifies. Besides, last man standing pilots can come back to win the game after having worthless pug mentalities like that whine about having their time wasted.

So with respect, pugs need to do the GOOD pilots a favor and die LESS and stop wasting OUR time making US CARRY HARDER.

Example:


These people in game weren't ****** and let me work. I was last man and servers were going down soon. We didn't win, but I fought well and died well, and took a few with me... in my Mist Lynx. So I support OP... shut, the, hell, up, when you're dead and the other guy isn't. You don't deserve to complain.

Congrats, you just skipped 10 pages of text.

Recreation is not wasting time.Do you find 'having fun' a waste of time.Is being a sociopath also a hobby for you?

Also, we are talking ONLY about refusing to fight.Is it too hard to read, as hard as it is to stop being a *****?

[Slepnir]

Techorse, on 02 February 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I sort of can't believe there are still threads on this topic.

There are currently 2 running on this topic...The rules set out by PGI are pretty clear and they have had mods clarify them in the past but everybody wants to argue their point of view..

I already gave up on the subject, if you team treason I will report you, just as much as I would report a TKer. if you want to run out the clock after participating in the fight by doing damage, that's fine it's allowed by PGI and something we all agreed to by playing the game.

I will either watch how the match plays out, go get a drink, use the bathroom etc.. or leave and drop in a different mech. the latter is much faster and far less stressful than some people seem to get here.

[Joseph Mallan]

Tycho von Gagern, on 02 February 2015 - 08:25 AM, said:

If you're spectating on a lone teammate who is trying to do anything (even hide and power-down) with more than 6 minutes left in the match, you're missing the point.

The question isn't "should I give away that last player's position?"

The questions you should be asking are "How did I get dusted so quickly? What did I do wrong? How can I become a better player so I don't get slaughtered in 8 minutes?"

If you and 10 other teammates got beat down before the match was even half over, you are a waste of time. I'd rather drop with a never-say-die sole-survivor than any of you anytime.

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MonochromeGoat, on 02 February 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:

Congrats, you just skipped 10 pages of text.

Recreation is not wasting time.Do you find 'having fun' a waste of time.Is being a sociopath also a hobby for you?

Also, we are talking ONLY about refusing to fight.Is it too hard to read, as hard as it is to stop being a *****?

If I was rich Working would be a waste of time. Recreation is a time filling endeavor and therefore in a finite definition wasting time that could be used to do something constructive or helpful.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 02 February 2015 - 08:30 AM.