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[Greenjulius]

Battlemasters got nerfed slightly. At first the changes looked positive, but now I'm seeing that they all have fairly useless PPC quirks. The 1S can boat energy a little more effectively, but who boated energy on one of the premier IS LRM boats?

Such silliness. I hope they scrap the BLR quirks and keep them where they are.

On the other hand, Cicadas got solid buffs. I'm glad I just picked up 4 of them!

Edited by Greenjulius, 12 February 2015 - 04:07 PM.

[Adiuvo]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

it's called consistency.

And if they are being consistent (big if) the WVR-7K will get LPL quirks, instead, with JJs. And will overall be better than having all the eggs in one basket.

Consistency isn't better when it removes options.

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

Whats up with the Hgn 733? Why didnt it get srm 6 quirks? Who cares about the shittty ac10 tbh?!

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 12 February 2015 - 04:06 PM.

[Davers]

Does this new 'stock mech' quirk change mean that Griffons will lose the SRM buffs and gain LRM buffs?

[norus]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

it's called consistency.

And if they are being consistent (big if) the WVR-7K will get LPL quirks, instead, with JJs. And will overall be better than having all the eggs in one basket.

Unfortunately the 7k can only have 2 LPL ever. You can't fit one in the head, it just doesn't work because IS LPL take 2 crit slots. The only thing you can do to fill more weapons is stick missiles on it. There will never again be a wubverine, it has been deleted.

[kapusta11]

Ultimatum X, on 12 February 2015 - 03:59 PM, said:

Nonsense. That velocity is LOWER than ERPPCs previously were before the mega-nerf.

An extra 100m/s will not let the 9S out trade CERLLAS at 800m.


9S got neutered, and IS drop decks along with it.

Yep, hitscan damage is better than a chance of not doing any damage at all, even if you spread it a little bit.

Edited by kapusta11, 12 February 2015 - 04:13 PM.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 02:41 PM, said:

honestly (and I could be wrong)
I simply anticipate the 7K getting some LPL quirks, since it came with one. IN which case, I'll dust mine off like this
WVR-7K
Probably.

It would be a little more balanced this way anyway.
I'm sad the 6K is going, but hopefully the 7K can pick up the mantle in the form of a more balanced Wubverine

[Torgun]

Greenjulius, on 12 February 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

Battlemasters got nerfed slightly. At first the changes looked positive, but now I'm seeing that they all have fairly useless PPC quirks. The 1S can boat energy a little more effectively, but who boated energy on one of the premier IS LRM boats?

Such silliness. I hope they scrap the BLR quirks and keep them where they are.

I especially like how they're encouraging variety between different variants of Battlemasters by giving a whopping 4 of them medium laser quirks, 1 medium pulse quirks and no large laser quirks (removed from 1D and yep got medium laser quirks!) and no large pulse quirks. Really what the heck were they thinking..... I mean if there was actually a single thought behind this.

Edited by Torgun, 12 February 2015 - 04:14 PM.

[Nightmare1]

Quickdraws lost the SRM benefit but picked up an LRM 10 quirk?

Who puts LRMs on a QKD???

I really, really hope that gets changed back soon!

[LT. HARDCASE]

Greenjulius, on 12 February 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

Battlemasters got nerfed slightly. At first the changes looked positive, but now I'm seeing that they all have fairly useless PPC quirks. The 1S can boat energy a little more effectively, but who boated energy on one of the premier IS LRM boats?

Such silliness. I hope they scrap the BLR quirks and keep them where they are.

It really makes no sense. I just went back and looked at Russ' tier list, and every BLR was in T4 (except the 3M in T3). So why would they nerf them?

I pilot nothing but T4/5 mechs, and they're being nerfed with no reasoning. Well, except the QKD-5K, I'm really happy about that one. But everything else is bullocks.

[Nightmare1]

Kevjack, on 12 February 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:

It really makes no sense. I just went back and looked at Russ' tier list, and every BLR was in T4 (except the 3M in T3). So why would they nerf them?

I pilot nothing but T4/5 mechs, and they're being nerfed with no reasoning. Well, except the QKD-5K, I'm really happy about that one. But everything else is bullocks.

Exactly! Why nerf the BLRs???

And as for QKDs, well, why did they lose their SRM quirks? That's where they excel! LRM QKDs are just silly.

[Greenjulius]

Sean Lang, on 12 February 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:

CDA-3M
Specialty
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +10
Laser Duration -10%%
Medium Laser Range +7.5%
Energy Weapon Range +7.5%
Medium Laser Cooldown +7.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +20%
Torso yaw speed +10%

In other news, this may become "a thing."

CDA-3M
Endo, DHS, FF
XL280 + 1 DHS
232/274 armor
ECM
4xML
AC5 + 3 tons of ammo

[Fate 6]

kapusta11, on 12 February 2015 - 04:10 PM, said:

Yep, hitscan damage is better than a chance of not doing any damage at all, even if you spread it a little bit.

It completely depends. Getting 10 damage to something is better than getting 1-2 damage. People who are good at peeking and firing off 20 damage and going back will out-trade people with lasers/gauss.

I've been running an Ice Ferret with a CERPPC and I do much more damage than I take because people can't shoot back in time.

[Darlith]

Dulahan, on 12 February 2015 - 02:08 PM, said:

Poor WVR-6K - Sigh, from a go to back to the dustbin of my Garage. It got hit by the Nerfbat WAAAAAY Harder than the 9S did. Hell, I doubt the 9S will even see much of a hit, especially for those who do the 2 ERPPC build with something else in the arm.

But ouch, poor 6K.

This makes me sad, everytime I find a medium I like for LPLs, it gets changed to regular Large Lasers. I will have to look for a new LPL mech I suppose now.

[Davers]

Why would PGI think that LRM quirks will make a chassis competitive? Might as well give AMS quirks to balance the mechs too. I thought the point was to make mechs more viable, not load down bad mechs with bad quirks? Name a single IS quirked mech that has become Tier 1 from any of these changes.

[Fate 6]

Greenjulius, on 12 February 2015 - 04:23 PM, said:

In other news, this may become "a thing."

CDA-3M
Endo, DHS, FF
XL280 + 1 DHS
232/274 armor
ECM
4xML
AC5 + 3 tons of ammo

Probably, considering the 3M couldn't mount firepower to compete with a Firestarter and ended up as a long range harasser/escort anyway.

Davers, on 12 February 2015 - 04:26 PM, said:

Why would PGI think that LRM quirks will make a chassis competitive? Might as well give AMS quirks to balance the mechs too. I thought the point was to make mechs more viable, not load down bad mechs with bad quirks? Name a single IS quirked mech that has become Tier 1 from any of these changes.

Trebuchet

[Ultimax]

Davers, on 12 February 2015 - 04:26 PM, said:

Why would PGI think that LRM quirks will make a chassis competitive? Might as well give AMS quirks to balance the mechs too. I thought the point was to make mechs more viable, not load down bad mechs with bad quirks? Name a single IS quirked mech that has become Tier 1 from any of these changes.

They are caving in to the same handful of forum warriors who won't rest until every mech is gargbage tier like their pet, special snowflake build.

[BARBAR0SSA]

So the AWESOME is now the TRUE ERPPC boat...unless they nerfed it.

However the rumor was +10T added to IS drop deck...which means TDR9s can now be replaced by AWS, that should be fine, that lumbering hulk blowing up things if you turn a corner.

Edited by shad0w4life, 12 February 2015 - 04:29 PM.

[Ovion]

Looking forward to thisun.

Edited by Ovion, 12 February 2015 - 04:30 PM.

[Greenjulius]

Nightmare1, on 12 February 2015 - 04:19 PM, said:

Exactly! Why nerf the BLRs???

And as for QKDs, well, why did they lose their SRM quirks? That's where they excel! LRM QKDs are just silly.

Ohhhh, because the Battlemasters were soooo OOOO PPPPP!

I own all but the Hellslinger and 1D, so this is especially frustrating for me. The Battlemaster is being turned into the most ho-hum t.u.r.d in the lineup. It's almost as bad as Awesomes! (sorry, had to dig at Awesome owners at least once)

I'd really like to see something positive for IS assaults, because these quirks aren't doing it. There are increasingly few reasons to run an IS assault outside of the Stalker, Banshee and King Crab.

EDIT: They are editing out T.U.R.D? What is this, kindergarten?

Edited by Greenjulius, 12 February 2015 - 04:33 PM.