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[Shredhead]

Go on, please. This is very entertaining.

Btw, who lets those wannabe goons NVKA rustle their jimmies? They are seriously bad at "trolling", even if you give them time to practice they won't reach the class the goons had back then. I guess hardcore mouthbreathers RPers are easily upset.

[Stoned Prophet]

Thorn Hallis, on 23 February 2015 - 03:57 AM, said:

And yet they proclaim CGB as their "home territory" and are excused by the CGB leadership for their behavior. Read2Learn.

And how does that make them part of all factions? Two examples for 9 factions is not all. You must be being intentionally dense so im just gonna ignore you now. Kthxbai

[Lord DeicideRavenRose]

Stoned Prophet, on 22 February 2015 - 11:58 PM, said:

Clearly you have issues comprehending english. I said Kurita (im going to caps this so you know its the important part) MAKES EXCUSES FOR ITS MEMBERS BAD BEHAVIOR. Do all factions have people who act like Kurita members do? Actually, if you pay attention, no, they dont. But lets say they did. Thats not my point. My point is (Ill caps this again so you know its the point) HOUSE KURITA MAKES EXCUSES FOR ITS MEMBERS BAD BEHAVIOR. EXCUSES. EXCUSES. Thats the point they make EXCUSES for their players bad behavior.

If you need it more clearly syated than that, I suggest you get a translator of your native language to explain it to you.


Your own members admit to breaking the ceasefire you reference and you wonder why the Davs rejected your "peace proposal". Some people are so nutty...

ha ha ha ha. Save your platitudes, Rasalhague stink-dog! I got a hog you can wrassle... right here!

[Novawrecker]

An Anime Princess, on 23 February 2015 - 03:44 AM, said:

looks like the gene pool for ghost bear needs a better lifeguard lmao

They call the chemist that's messing up all those vat-brats a "lifeguard"?

Edited by Novawrecker, 23 February 2015 - 10:51 AM.

[Stoned Prophet]

Squelches, on 23 February 2015 - 09:55 AM, said:

ha ha ha ha. Save your platitudes, Rasalhague stink-dog! I got a hog you can wrassle... right here!

I think you should get your vision checked...
Also, I dont think you understand what Platitudes means... Grab a dictionary before you try to start using big words K bro?

Edited by Stoned Prophet, 23 February 2015 - 12:33 PM.

[Davers]

Stoned Prophet, on 23 February 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

I think you should get your vision checked...
Also, I dont think you understand what Platitudes means... Grab a dictionary before you try to start using big words K bro?

Maybe he is using it correctly? "A remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful."

Edited by Davers, 23 February 2015 - 01:08 PM.

[Stoned Prophet]

Davers, on 23 February 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

Maybe he is using it correctly? "A remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful."

Now the problem there is "A remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful." is vague and subjective. So what is a platitude to him is not one to me. So who is right?

[Davers]

Stoned Prophet, on 23 February 2015 - 01:10 PM, said:

Now the problem there is "A remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful." is vague and subjective. So what is a platitude to him is not one to me. So who is right?

I dunno, but if you take all Kurita's planets I am sure you will find the answer.

[YCSLiesmith]

Stoned Prophet, on 23 February 2015 - 01:10 PM, said:

Now the problem there is "A remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful." is vague and subjective. So what is a platitude to him is not one to me. So who is right?

He's right, because you as an individual dont get to determine what is and isn't a platitude, the people who respond to you do.

[Stoned Prophet]

YCSLiesmith, on 23 February 2015 - 01:27 PM, said:

He's right, because you as an individual dont get to determine what is and isn't a platitude, the people who respond to you do.

Ah so all those teenagers who say their parents should leave them alone are right because its the listener who gets to determine it? Glad to know that.

[Harvey Batchall Kerensky at Law]

Stoned Prophet, on 23 February 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

Ah so all those teenagers who say their parents should leave them alone are right because its the listener who gets to determine it? Glad to know that.

wat

[Javin]

Go fight in someone else's forums!

[Harathan]

Javin, on 23 February 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:

Go fight in someone else's forums!

Thread starts as described, "an honest question".

In less than 3 pages, degenerates into NKVA trolling all comers.

Hey OP, I think you got your honest answer.

[Stormthorn]

Harathan, on 23 February 2015 - 03:21 PM, said:

Thread starts as described, "an honest question".

In less than 3 pages, degenerates into NKVA trolling all comers.

Hey OP, I think you got your honest answer.

OP said on page two he had his answer and all things after will probably degenerate thread. It is excepted to happen on the internet. Some ground was made. Reading all the posts really helps in understanding a thread. o7

Edited by Stormthorn, 23 February 2015 - 03:53 PM.

[Harathan]

Stormthorn, on 23 February 2015 - 03:52 PM, said:

OP said on page two he had his answer and all things after will probably degenerate thread. It is excepted to happen on the internet. Some ground was made. Reading all the posts really helps in understanding a thread. o7

I'm so terribly sorry I didn't get your permission before posting in a thread on my Faction's subforum.

/sarcasm

[Stealth Raptor]

Storm is right, i got the answers i wanted, made statements that needed stating, and then withdrew because my 6th sense was telling me that nkva wasnt far behind, and it would be silly to continue through it

i still hope for a if not necessarily a peace at least an easing of tension between us comes soon, and hope that my faction takes the proper steps for it

Edited by Stealth Raptor, 23 February 2015 - 04:14 PM.

[Lyoto Machida]

Stoned Prophet, on 22 February 2015 - 09:14 AM, said:

Nothing! your differences are irreparable! Continue to fight one another while the Glory of Clan Ghost Bear watches on in amusement! We are mightily entertained, and have sent back to the Pentagon Cluster for MOAR POPCORN!

I'm guessing that popcorn is full of GMOs. No way you guys could be eating organic...doesn't fit into the Clan mentality.

[Stormthorn]

Stoned Prophet, on 22 February 2015 - 11:58 PM, said:

Your own members admit to breaking the ceasefire you reference and you wonder why the Davs rejected your "peace proposal". Some people are so nutty...

From what I have heard and read, no one ever said there was a ceasefire. We never knew of one at the time, and we assumed Davion stopped dropping our border because we stopped fighting there. There was no fun doing ghost drops for Davion on planets no one cared about and there was no fun for Kurita dropping where our numbers couldn't make a difference. People bring up these ceasefires like they were official. They weren't as far as I and anyone participating the CW at the time knew. We had both just given up on our border because we had better things to do (Davion wanted to fight Liao and Marik, Kurita went to drop the clan border where for something different than our perpetual losing front). But everyone calls Kurita backstabbers for deciding to change attack borders for a change of pace from a month on the clan front and to fight somewhere where PUGs from every faction didn't clog the queue (At the time our units wanted to start making a difference, and the EU pilots started getting involved again as the three ceasefire system had been newly implemented).

To me, the reason the Davion offensive was put into full swing like it was, was because a certain Davion posted about a nonexistent ceasefire in the forums, and a threat that Kurita will feel the force of a hundred Suns on our border. This challenge of Kurita's strength really got everyone in Kurita going, especially after we had a whole night of literally stomping Davion pilots. A number of Kuritans wanted to give Davion some perspective on what the Clan border was really like, and what those battles had turned every Kurita pilot into. We poured on the battles just to prove to Davion that they weren't as hot as they thought they were or the we were to be taken lightly.

In all fairness, I felt like we did really start to beat a dead horse, but people were really fired up by claims that we were a weak faction because we couldn't even hold our northern border. Since then, the thread I speak of was deleted by OP, but I assume many of us, especially Kuritians, remember the thread I am speaking of and the sweet tears that brought Kurita together.

Many people may say, "Well Kurita didn't want to have a ceasefire when other factions came to them with one, why should we now?" It seems to me that every ceasefire came with a stipulation. They sounded like they involved Kurita having to take orders from other Factions. Stiplulations that could make us nothing more than a dog for other factions to use. We had already been called a weak, worthless faction, so what would make us think differently?

Could you imagine if Kurita wanted to close the wormhole while part of nSL? It was given as our right to close at any time, but I wouldn't have been surprised if the nSL commanded it to stay open to help "fight the clans," even if Kurita felt that it is being used inappropriately (as a potential attack lane to keep Kurita doing nSLs bidding, to siphon planets, to let mercs walk all over us, etc).
Could you imagine if nSL wanted us to return all the planets on the Davion border after we were overrun for months on every front and erase the proof that Kurita completely annihilated everything Davion could throw at us? To let us be walked all over so we could be part of a "secret tree house club" that we don't need to necessarily be a part of to cooperatively fight the clans?

I am not part of our upper command, so I don't know everything behind the scenes, but I have been listening to what has been going on and this is what I think happened.

Edited by Stormthorn, 23 February 2015 - 05:10 PM.

[MischiefSC]

I now believe that the "ceasefire" was negotiated with people who didn't then communicate with the rest of Kurita. This was prior to your council. I can't blame people in the rest of Kurita for that.

There was a ceasefire discussion with Kurita a while ago, aftee the fighting restarted. Kurita laughed it off. Now that the situation is moving back a ceasefire I'd a hard sell. If Davion plowed back into Kurita, took dieron and a swath of southern worlds and then offered a ceasefire, what would you say?

[Stealth Raptor]

While true storm, we also have to look at it from their view. Regardless of what we thought, they thought a different thing and were thoroughly pissed at our actions. From my understanding, the ceasefire wasnt related to operation wyvern (the clan push we started january that we then turned to davion when it failed miserably) but about a month before that we had a much less orgnized push against the clans where a short term ceasefire was negotiated. Here is where the split happens, and it was due to the miscommunication of how disorganized we were- we assumed it was a short term while we push the clans back ceasefire, and davion assumed it would be a longstanding one. Afterwards, davion didnt attack us, so the assumption on our part was not that there was a ceasefire but that davion was happy to ignore us and focus on marik and liao, so we didnt attack because we didnt want to open a border. I believe at the time our main goal was slowing down steiner which was pushing in at the time. Between srot and CI it was all we could do to stop them. Fast forward this misunderstanding to operation wyvern where we for 4 consecutive ceasefires had 4-5 12s on our server attacking csj. due to the sheer number, we never once took a planet and lost two to the clans every ceasefire. at this time it was decided that the only tactically viable move that would slow the hellish loss of planets we were going through. on top of that, there was a heavy anti merc sentiment, and we wanted to bore the crap out of them. they would only get to drop against pugs with the occasional ghost drop. the border would quickly max and our pugs would leave, leaving them no available attack options. the numerous clan **** talking on our forums at the time showed just how salty they were that we werent giving them games. even mischief praised this as the only truly viable move we had left. obviously however there was a sentiment that we broke a ceasefire. forward that a month and a half and mix in some good natured trolling from nkva while we banged the door down of davion and we have todays situation. mix in the fun with marik and we have a good ol fashioned standoff where both sides blame the other and neither is willing to accept accountability for what pissed the other off, both looking at the situation through their own colored lenses and only seeing the other at fault. what will be the endgame? only time will tell.