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[Khan Warlock Kell]

I didnt buy a founders pack because of the free mechs, free slots, free, C-Bills, or the free upgrade to being a premium member, Sure those things are nice and altho i only have an elite pack now i fully intend to upgrade to legendary soon. I bought it to show support for a game i have waited along time to arrive.

I salute those who have spent thier hard earned money on a game theyhavn't even seen the end product of. Sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith.

[Hellhoundman]

CancersCincar, on 30 June 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

There isn't a XP bonus.

I don't believe the game will use anything like exp. Might be wrong, but that's as far from what i have seen.
Would make it so much more fun. With grinding with you favourite mech for example, while your still able to advance in the gameplay and get better mech all the while. And there for bringing whole different things to the table.

Edited by Hellhoundman, 01 July 2012 - 04:00 AM.

[GuntherK]

Hellhoundman, on 01 July 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

I don't believe the game will use anything like exp. Might be wrong, but that's as far from what i have seen.
Would make it so much more fun. With grinding with you favourite mech for example. And there for bringing whole different things to the table.

XP is confirmed.
Premium account gives 50% more cbills and XP per round.
Its used to expand your pilot tree abilities, and will unlock modules that can be mounted on mechs.

Edit. I am glad that premium mechs are only regular mechs with new skin and cbill boost, the concept of premium tanks on WoT was corrupted with the arrival of the chinese type59, its a russian T54 tier 9 medium disguised as a cheap tier 8.
That thing is a moneymaker for wargaming.net, so much they removed it from the game store but keep it available to be bought in offerable packs, cheap trick.

Edited by GuntherK, 01 July 2012 - 04:08 AM.

[R0N1N 31337]

I'll just be happy to have some sweet mechs from the start and to be able to save some c-bills quicker as unlike some people i do not have 12+ hours a day to sit on here racking up cash!
Plus I have high hopes for this game and if they get enough money to invest in it, hopefully they will continue to develope an ever improving kick *** game!

[Hellhoundman]

GuntherK, on 01 July 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

XP is confirmed.
Premium account gives 50% more cbills and XP per round.
Its used to expand your pilot tree abilities, and will unlock modules that can be mounted on mechs.

Edit. I am glad that premium mechs are only regular mechs with new skin and cbill boost, the concept of premium tanks on WoT was corrupted with the arrival of the chinese type59, its a russian T54 tier 9 medium disguised as a cheap tier 8.
That thing is a moneymaker for wargaming.net, so much they removed it from the game store but keep it available to be bought in offerable packs, cheap trick.

Gota agree totally here
WoT has become a milking game. I wunder how lang WG will be able to keep it up.

[Freakiie]

GuntherK, on 01 July 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

Edit. I am glad that premium mechs are only regular mechs with new skin and cbill boost, the concept of premium tanks on WoT was corrupted with the arrival of the chinese type59, its a russian T54 tier 9 medium disguised as a cheap tier 8.
That thing is a moneymaker for wargaming.net, so much they removed it from the game store but keep it available to be bought in offerable packs, cheap trick.

This is why I'm happy the founder mechs are exact copies off the prime variants.

The type is WEAKER than all other T8 mediums, yet there are craploads off people like this guy here, that complain the T59 is OP. On EU server they did an event. 15 Type's vs 15 T8 mediums, guess what? The types got absolutely obliterated. But noooo, I got killed by something I can't get! So that must mean that thing is OP!! It's not that I should learn how to fight it, nope it's just OP!

On the other hand, people like this would even complain that somehow the different skins on founders mechs make them OP or something, so guess founders will still have to live with some abuse.

Edit: meh typo's

Edited by Freakiie, 01 July 2012 - 04:43 AM.

[Synra]

Countdownboy, on 01 July 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

there is one , but not if you are founder
you get it when you buy a premium membership

Wow, I see a lot of people in this topic saying that "there is no exp bonus for buying founders, only a C-bill bonus". And this guy here is failing to make the connection of founders and premium service.

Buying a founders pack DOES get you an exp bonus, because it includes 1, 2 or 3 months of premium service. Premium service was confirmed to give you 50% more exp and 50% more C-bills so long as you have it active. In addition to this, if you pilot a founders mech for a match, that will also give you an additional 25% C-bill bonus.

This is the big perk of buying legendary. You get 3 months of premium, plus a founder mech for each weight class. So there is little reason you can't enjoy a 50% exp bonus and 75% c-bill bonus on every game you play for the first three months MWO is live. Unless you manage to find some standard mech that you love playing way more than any of the four founders mechs you have.

[Tooninki]

Telthalion, on 30 June 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

The founder's 'mechs have a slightly different model than their regular counterparts. Even with the mechlab's paintjob editor it won't be possible to recreate the look of a founder 'mech using a non-founder chassis.

It's not a huge difference, but it is there.

Oh, good to know that there is a PAINTeditor in Mechlab! Thanks!

[Vosgedzam]

Kodiak Knight, on 01 July 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

They said it would be "fully customizable" so I'm guessing you can build your CPLT-K2 yourself...

Are you sure?? I thought I read that the K2 requires a different chassis which means I will have to get another Catapult due to the different hardpoints for the PPCs.

[Kodiak Knight]

Not sure of course, but that's how I understood Russ...reading what others post in here it might mean: Fully customizable within the limits of its hardpoints...
Now that would be quite something different...

[Vosgedzam]

Kodiak Knight, on 01 July 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

Not sure of course, but that's how I understood Russ...reading what others post in here it might mean: Fully customizable within the limits of its hardpoints...
Now that would be quite something different...

That's why it's not possible to customized the founder Catapult into the K2 variant.

[Zynk]

Saumerez, on 30 June 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

I thought that founder's mechs in MWO would be analogous to premium tanks in WoT.

In WoT a premium tank is not better than another tank of it's tier. For example a T-14 is a tier 5 premium tank. It has good armor and an average gun. The mobility is average I guess. It is not by any means better than a non-premium fully upgraded tier 5 heavy tank. It is different though. It also gets a bous to credits received after a match.

Also, the people who "bought in" early with WoT got a special premium tank called the M6A2 something or other. It is not a great tank but you can not get them. Only the people who bought in early have them.

I thought the founder's mechs would be unique also. I did not think they would be better or more powerful but thought they would be something that only the people who were willing to invest early would get.

Do not misunderstand. I do not regret investing the 120 bucks and I am still very much looking forward to the game. Also, I did not want a mech that was an "I win" button or anything. I did not want anything that gave me an edge.

I wanted something that was unique in more ways than just a skin.

Everyone will be able to skin their mechs anyway according to the youtube video I saw so a unique skin is no reward at all really.

Oh well.

Still very much looking forward to it.

Be thankful they changed it because from what I read the founders mech was going to be unique and a fixed variant not moddable in mechlab.

And you would not get exp in the type trees using them, with the prime variant we get now will will get that experience.

Edited by Zynk, 01 July 2012 - 12:11 PM.

[plague]

If it's anything like WoT you'll be playing those founder mechs 50% of the time, if not more. You'd better get used to them. You'll probably see premium mechs in most matches just because of the credit rate, if they make credit grinding as painful as I expect them to.

[Commie95]

The mech was a bonus to me. I'm most likely to play an atlas 90% of the time and to get 25% credits while doing it is great. That said I would have spent $60 even with no mech just to show support for the game and to get a discount on game currency.

[Karyudo ds]

plague, on 01 July 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

If it's anything like WoT...

It's not.

[plague]

Karyudo ds, on 01 July 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

It's not.

Except it is. The developers have even referenced it multiple times as their model.

[Iron Horse]

Once I heard free to play, I knew there were going to be some decisions to be made. The developers still need to get paid, (because they are not ascetics, unfortunately ), and just because you can play for free does not mean there is no business model there (I used to work for the largest F2P publisher in the world, so I have an idea what I am talking about).

Grugore, on 30 June 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

I'm happy with the c-bil bonus. Cha-ching!

I'm going to wait and see what the recoupment costs look like per battle (if I have to run my Jenner 20 times to replace all the armor on my Atlas, for instance), but I'm definitely going to be running my Founder's 'mech when I have time to kill and a reasonable C-Bill objective to meet.

Mu, on 30 June 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

Yeah. So if you have the founder catapult it'd be the stock variant with missile arms and torso energy hardpoints, and you'd only get the 25% bonus when piloting that specific mech. But you could still buy/use the variant with PPC arms, it just wouldn't have the founder skin or cbill bonus.

I'm still not clear on whether these chasses are treated like other regular variants (just with default loadouts), or as their own 'mech (in which case they may or may not have any or all of the same variants as a stock 'mech).

[EDIT:] I do tend to think that the boost will only exist for the chassis/variant/model/whatever of the Founders 'mechs.

Edited by Iron Horse, 01 July 2012 - 12:40 PM.

[Karyudo ds]

plague, on 01 July 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

Except it is. The developers have even referenced it multiple times as their model.

Really? Only time I've seen WoT referenced has been in EVERY SINGLE thread started by people who have no idea that there are other F2P games out there.

We don't have tiers or magic ammo and from what I've heard, we do have a MUCH more balanced game whether you slip them a $20 after every match or not. Doesn't sound like the WoT I've heard of.

Edited by Karyudo ds, 01 July 2012 - 12:31 PM.

[Bluey]

Saumerez, on 30 June 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

I thought that founder's mechs in MWO would be analogous to premium tanks in WoT.

In WoT a premium tank is not better than another tank of it's tier. For example a T-14 is a tier 5 premium tank. It has good armor and an average gun. The mobility is average I guess. It is not by any means better than a non-premium fully upgraded tier 5 heavy tank. It is different though. It also gets a bous to credits received after a match.

Also, the people who "bought in" early with WoT got a special premium tank called the M6A2 something or other. It is not a great tank but you can not get them. Only the people who bought in early have them.

I thought the founder's mechs would be unique also. I did not think they would be better or more powerful but thought they would be something that only the people who were willing to invest early would get.

Do not misunderstand. I do not regret investing the 120 bucks and I am still very much looking forward to the game. Also, I did not want a mech that was an "I win" button or anything. I did not want anything that gave me an edge.

I wanted something that was unique in more ways than just a skin.

Everyone will be able to skin their mechs anyway according to the youtube video I saw so a unique skin is no reward at all really.

Oh well.

Still very much looking forward to it.

THIS IS NOT wot
THIS IS MECHWARRIOR *Sparta*

Edited by Bluey, 01 July 2012 - 12:41 PM.

[Alaric Wolf Kerensky]

Fire for Effect, on 30 June 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

You also get an XP and C-bill boost....

And that annoyingly cool yellow thing at the left of the forum...

People need to stop spreading false information. The developers have repeatedly stated that the founders ONLY get a C-Bill booster. There is no EXP boost.