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[KursedVixen]

Do not drop words where your pilots feet have not dropped

[DoctorDetroit]

These nerfs will not sting as bad if we see a significant buff to clan autocannons!

I guess that puts me at stage 3 (Bargaining).

Also, the cooldown nerf for TBR and SCR should barely effect using the mech since heat was the limiting factor for both mechs.

Edited by DoctorDetroit, 17 May 2015 - 04:33 AM.

[Sniper09121986]

DoctorDetroit, on 17 May 2015 - 04:23 AM, said:

These nerfs will not sting as bad if we see a significant buff to clan autocannons!

If it ever happens. And even in this case this nerf should happen AFTER they fix the ballistics, at least not before that.

[JohnnyWayne]

Great job, Timberwolf is dead after this. So are clans overall. Well done PGI. /golfclap

[KursedVixen]

Sniper09121986, on 17 May 2015 - 04:27 AM, said:

If it ever happens. And even in this case this nerf should happen AFTER they fix the ballistics, at least not before that.

by the time it happens clanners will be gone cw will be ruined unless you like sucession wars. and a lot of refund will be ask for wave 3

[Prof RJ Gumby]

I sympathise with the clanners in hope the c-acs and c-uacs will get some love. These need buffs, whether it will be velocity/less bullets per 'attack' or less delay between all bullets in an 'attack'. Tried clan ballistics and its kinda meh.

[JohnnyWayne]

What if I dont give a damn about ACs? Id rather take PPCs and lasers than an AC. Not worth. Not a bit.

[DoctorDetroit]

JohnnyWayne, on 17 May 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

Great job, Timberwolf is dead after this. So are clans overall. Well done PGI. /golfclap

Your kidding right? I will still be getting high scores in both my TBR and SCR.

JohnnyWayne, on 17 May 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

What if I dont give a damn about ACs? Id rather take PPCs and lasers than an AC. Not worth. Not a bit.

Dude, just stop! The nerfs are not bad enough to shut down your builds, especially if you like PPCs. Heat will still be your limiting factor, not weapon cooldown.

[JohnnyWayne]

Clan PPC are already dead. Welcome, to the real world.

Now lasers are dead too, cooldown? Its about duration.

With this, all Clan weapons will be nerfed into oblivion, at least on the usable chassis.The thunderbolt is still around, the raven and firestarters. The named lights didnt need quriks in the first place. Not to forget the 3 heat penalty limit on IS LL.

Clans are already losing planets like crazy and now this? Sure "its a population issue". Why is it then that there are 2 clan teams in queue waiting for an enemey all the time?

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 17 May 2015 - 04:52 AM.

[Alphawuschel]

I love these Quirk changes xD

u just need a Timber with LargeLaser to cover a lane for 5 min.
I could do so much more in the meantime, thx PGI!
- drink a coffee
- smoke a cigarette
- go out with your dog
- having a quicky with someone or alone.. do we have some duration quirks on that too?

It was necessary to do something with these Mechs.
But why u destroy the Raven2x again??
U need much of skill to handle with the 2x and 3 LargeLaser to get over the 600 mark.
With the Firestarter it is nearly the same..

The Stalker4N, Timber and StormCrow needed a re balancing but i think you overact with these changes.
But we will see.
By the way what about the Hellbringer? He is still OP!?!

PGI, you should talk with your high level players before you start something like that.

But at the moment i see u only making money.
And please don´t tell me a fairytale about CW, Playerbase, in game Voice or new OP Mechs which will be released.
No one need this, but you.

We hate VerdianBog, Waiting Que's, some Hitboxes, high Pings, ClanAC´s, Matchmaking and conquer useless Planets.

Don´t destroy your own cash cow, fix it!

Regards

[DoctorDetroit]

JohnnyWayne, on 17 May 2015 - 04:47 AM, said:

Clan PPC are already dead. Welcome, to the real world.

Now lasers are dead too, cooldown? Its about duration.

Though you have a good point about ER PPCs (IS and Clan) being dead. Clan lasers will not be dead because of these quirks. Trust me and do not panic.

Although much more neg quirks than this could put them in the ICU! lol

Edited by DoctorDetroit, 17 May 2015 - 04:57 AM.

[KursedVixen]

The cooldowns will make it harder for newer players to use those mechs ,but it's the duration that killed them.

[JohnnyWayne]

They wont be dead, they will be dead on besaid chassis. After that the warhawk and the direwolf will be the only acceptable laser platforms of the clans - until the IS crys for nerfs because "such op we cant siege the capital worlds that way".

[Insects]

JohnnyWayne, on 17 May 2015 - 04:47 AM, said:

Clans are already losing planets like crazy and now this? Sure "its a population issue". Why is it then that there are 2 clan teams in queue waiting for an enemey all the time?

Because almost nobody is playing except MercStar, that is the definition of "population issue".

Even IS vs IS there is not a lot happening, MS have 20 planets, next closest has 6, then 4 then not much.

If MS chose to be Clans this month then it would be +20 planets to Clans and Clan would be accused of being super OP.

[Manikin Fartwalker]

i like it

[Livewyr]

Let me see if I understand you:

Clan ACs are pointless.
Clan UACS Blow. (A laser without the benefit of hitscan)
Clan LRMs are stream fire... and are LRMs. (If you're bringing LRMs to CW, you're bringing deadweight)
Clan LBX is short range (Or otherwise useless)
Clan S/SRMs are short range, like all other S/SRMs.
Clan PPCs are the hottest, yet slowest moving things in the game.

Clan mechs cannot change their engines, structure, or armor, or JJs.
The Stormcrow and Timberwolf are the only clan medium and heavy that come optimized the way we WOULD adjust them if we could change armor and structure- while having the tonnage sweetspot.

-Summoner is stuck with minimal podspace for weight. (And terrible hardpoint locations)
-Hellbringer is stuck with reduced podspace, for weight- but it is still somewhat viable- because of ECM and hardpoint locations.
-MadDog has a couple of singularities placed in the left and right Torso to draw nearby damage to them. (And terrible hardpoint locations)

-The Nova has hardly any podspace and terrible hardpoint locations.
-The Ice ferret: LOL (But for continuity: NO podspace, terrible hardpoint locations.)

So, with lasers being the only reliable weapon set...
And the Timber Wolf and Stormcrow being the only clan mechs that fit the sweetspot based on the rules YOU imposed (Armor/Structure/Engine)

You decide to go mega quirk nerf on LASERS and TBRs and SCRs.

"Captain! Ima given ya all she's got, captain, the clans just aren't showing up to play anymore Cap'n!"
"Nerf the only weapons and mechs they use."
"Captain?"

Well, it's bold.. I'll give you that.

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While we're on the subject of quirks:
Remember when you put the really powerful quirks for IS mechs in the quirkening? (Which gave it the name "quirkening.")
Remember when it was time to try and quirk the clan mechs, and you wanted to take it real easy so as not to repeat that mistake again. (1-2%.. that only ever stacked to 6% total)

Here, on reducing quirks from the quirkening you go gentle 1-2% and then on the nerf quirks 3% PER POD ON ANY BLOODY POD WITH AN ENERGY HARDPOINT.

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I realllllly hate Incompetent people. I hate them in games, I hate them in real life. I hate their drain on everyone else- and that there is nothing I can do to remove their influence on my life.


And I'm struggling to maintain my composure, so I will leave it at that.

Good day.

[JohnnyWayne]

joelmuzz, on 17 May 2015 - 05:03 AM, said:

Because almost nobody is playing except MercStar, that is the definition of "population issue".

Even IS vs IS there is not a lot happening, MS have 20 planets, next closest has 6, then 4 then not much.

If MS chose to be Clans this month then it would be +20 planets to Clans and Clan would be accused of being super OP.

What litterally means CW is a failure? There is no goal for players to achive. No reason to keep playing it.

@Livewyr: #neverforgetclans2015

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 17 May 2015 - 05:15 AM.

[Livewyr]

JohnnyWayne, on 17 May 2015 - 05:09 AM, said:

@Livewyr: #neverforgetclans2015

Quoted For Truth.

And my new Sig.

[Asmosis]

KursedVixen, on 16 May 2015 - 09:07 PM, said:

I think the timberwolf is the only clan mech that needs no quirks.

This statement is a bit funny really (not direct at OP but in general) because quirks primary reason for implementation was to bring IS mechs up on par with clan mechs because most of them fell short.

If Clan mechs are now the ones falling short, the obvious choice is to reign in the over quirked mechs, NOT to pile more power ups on top of other mechs. The fact they had to increase armor/structure values should be some indication power creep (yes in MW) has gotten a little out of hand.

[X T R E M E]

I was wondering if there were some devs who actually play the game.

I have been playing it since 3 years, and i have bought many packages
many like me have been doing the same.

I would kindly suggest you to listen more at people who have more experiece, instead of crybabies with lrms that cry only on what killed them last time.

Many like me were going to buy another clan pack: but you made them UNDERPOWERED and boring, if things go on this way, the game will die soon, and we are also thinking to ask for a clan refund.

You had the tukaydd stats: they are no use: you did not consider that many good players and corps played clan during the event: clans are underpowered, but players who play them are better than IS pugs.

This is why they got a slight advantage.

Edited by XtremeAlex, 17 May 2015 - 10:44 AM.